ANA Orlando show attracts 2,500

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giantsfan20
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edited April 3, 2017 9:41PM in U.S. Coin Forum

Surprised aatendence was so low? Was this due to the fact the Fun show was held in January or some ofher factor involved?

Did the ANA promote it locally to try and get more people to attend?

http://blog.greysheet.com/2017/03/28/press-release-national-money-show-draws-2-500-attendees/

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  • caddyshack
    caddyshack Posts: 115 ✭✭
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    The ANA refuses to accept the fact they provide so little in today's fast pace cyber world. I predict soon they will lose the auctions too. This organization does not want to change. Very sad.

    The alarm bells should be sounding at HQ. I heard they are not. 2500 is pathetic.

  • bolivarshagnasty
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    Still too many coin shows to support the collecting base. I agree, 2500 is weak for an ANA show.

  • ricko
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    That does seem small for a show like that.... what has past attendance been? Cheers, RickO

  • Shortgapbob
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    My prediction is that the mid-winter ANA show won't exist in 5 years.

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  • BStrauss3
    BStrauss3 Posts: 3,906 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    New Orleans 2013 - 3,204
    Portland 2015 - 4,592
    Dallas 2016 - 2,585 (there was, to be a fair a HUGE snow storm)

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  • ianrussell
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    It was surprisingly low considering Orlando did not have the January FUN show this year (or last year).

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  • JJSingleton
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    I would like to know how they come up with that number. It did not look anywhere like 2500 to me. I was there everyday.

    IMO if the goal is to increase attendance the ANA has to move to free admission. Marketing to the local collectors and those curious is not going to help when it costs $15 to park and $8 admission. Let's face it...most coin collectors are cheap and if it is going to cost over 30 bucks to just to walk in the door with my kid, it ain't going to happen in most cases. And then add to it the fact that most dealers bail by early Saturday it only takes one time for a collector to come, spend that kind of money to get in on the only day they can attend, and they will never return.

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  • amwldcoin
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    Maybe it was 2500 people who went through the door! Most people who attend a coin show go through the door multiple times during the day! I doubt there were 100 people waiting to enter the show the 1st day.

  • shorecoll
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    I've been to several dying shows in other industries...when it gets this low, they tend to count booth staff, security and pets to try and put a happy face on it.

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  • BStrauss3
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    I don't know how they count. The RIGHT way would be to count ANA members who pre-register, plus day of sales at the site, less dealers & helpers.

    The smaller show is a terrific opportunity to bring the breadth of an ANA show to areas of the country that don't have large shows. But that's not how it's being scheduled. Of course, there is the usual problem that few venues actually want the ANA show.

    Portland did well for two reasons - one is the PNNA got behind the show and pushed. Hard. The second is that this is basically an isolated region of 10 or 11 states. There is an active show scene (http://www.pnna.org/calendar.html) but only one really large show a year (fall) with a smaller show in the spring. Those shows rarely draw more than a handful of 'remote' dealers. It was a big deal to have a dealer from Mississippi attend one year. Even so, maybe 1/4th of my coin club made the 2 hour trip.

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  • Jackthecat1
    Jackthecat1 Posts: 1,122 ✭✭✭
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    I was not there, but if only 2,500 people attended this show, it was a very light turn-out.

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  • Manorcourtman
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    I knew it was bad but that is really pathetic. At least the weather was great!

  • TomB
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    I think that is about 2,499 more than turned out for the ANA show in Pittsburgh in 2011.

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  • illini420
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    I believe they count all of the dealers, pre-registered ANA members and show volunteers in the first day attendance only. They are not double counted each day of the show but I am sure they are all in the final count.

  • amwldcoin
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    @TomB said:
    I think that is about 2,499 more than turned out for the ANA show in Pittsburgh in 2011.

    I actually did quite well at the Pittsburg ANA! Can't say that about Orlando.

  • Barndog
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    @BStrauss3 said:
    New Orleans 2013 - 3,204
    Portland 2015 - 4,592
    Dallas 2016 - 2,585 (there was, to be a fair a HUGE snow storm)

    I was at the Portland ANA and am amazed at the number 4,592. That seems at least triple reality. So Orlando must have been a ghost town. Even crickets didn't show up?

  • BStrauss3
    BStrauss3 Posts: 3,906 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 5, 2017 3:24PM
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    Which day(s) were you in Portland?

    http://www.coinweek.com/coin-clubs/american-numismatic-association/attendance-numbers-in-for-ana-portland-national-money-show/

    Saturday saw over 1,400 public admissions.

    Full attendance figures for the National Money Show:
    Total member attendance: 1,513
    Pre-registered members: 58
    March 5: 767
    March 6: 373
    March 7: 315

    Total public attendance: 2,277
    March 5: 427
    March 6: 430
    March 7: 1,420

    Total attendance: 4,592
    March 5: 1,848 (returning visitors, such as table personnel, staff and national volunteers, are counted in first-day attendance only)
    March 6: 803
    March 7: 1,859 (total includes Scouting attendance of 124 Boy and Girl Scouts, plus parents and guardians)

    Also, I hadn't noticed but that article had more #s for other years:

    Past National Money Show attendance:
    Atlanta, 2014: 4,771
    New Orleans, 2013: 3,204
    Dallas, 2012: 2,973
    Denver, 2012: 2,800
    Pittsburgh, 2011: 4,027
    Sacramento, 2011: 4,668
    Fort Worth, 2010: 5,480

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  • giantsfan20
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    Surprised Sacramento was that highly attended. Attended believe the second day but literaly nobody was on the floor, but maybe due really cold and windy for that time period.

    Does that mean the FUN show attracts the majority of people from out of area as opposed to FL collectors?

    With Denver attendence that low does not look good for upcoming show.

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