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Is the Whitman Baltimore Expo still essentially cash and check only?

LongacreLongacre Posts: 16,717 ✭✭✭

Longacre plans to instruct the limo to drive him to the Whitman Baltimore coin show in the coming weeks. I have not been there for a few years.

Does anyone know if purchases are still made in cash and check, or have credit cards come more into vogue at coin shows? I wanted to get a sense.

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  • COINS MAKE CENTSCOINS MAKE CENTS Posts: 1,861 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Some dealers will take cards and some won't. Some dealers that do take cards will charge you a fee on top of the purchase price of your coins.

    No matter what cash will always be king at shows but.... yes more and more dealers get credit card readers daily

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  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,809 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 20, 2017 7:02AM

    If you want the best prices show up with your checkbook and good reputation with the dealers. The credit card companies charge for their services, and those costs have to be paid by you in one way or another. Making an offer in cash IS NOT the same as making an offer with a credit card payment.

    Cash has its own issues. For the dealer there are IRS reporting requirements. Also when I was dealer, I was not thrilled with the idea having carry a bunch of cash out of show and getting it to the bank to deposit it. The same is true for the collector who is carrying a lot of cash. There are significant risks in doing that.

    As a dealer there are a few customers whom you have to require to pay you in cash because of past check issues. When I was in business, that was a minor issue, however.

    Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
  • ashelandasheland Posts: 23,755 ✭✭✭✭✭
  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,313 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Some dealers will take "dirty" gold in exchange.

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  • ScarsdaleCoinScarsdaleCoin Posts: 5,331 ✭✭✭✭✭

    CASH, but I would take your check...

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  • LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,460 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It has been a while for you, hasn't it - Bitcoin is now preferred...... :D

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  • cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 10,181 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @coindeuce said:
    If you must use that dirty cash as opposed to your Chase Diamond card, just have your chauffeur/bodyguard carry it in his murse (that's man purse) and make sure he keeps his Tech 9 discreetly tucked under his trench coat.

    Maryland isn't very firearm friendly.

  • CoinosaurusCoinosaurus Posts: 9,645 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Cash or check remains the "coin" of the realm.

    Be sure to stop by #818 and say hello.

  • cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 10,181 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BillJones said:
    Cash has its own issues. For the dealer there are IRS reporting requirements.

    I wonder how many of them (percentage wise) actually properly report cash payments.

    On another note, do people seriously walk around the floor with five figures of cash on them? I think I would ask to pay with a check and to have the dealer mail me the coin once the check clears.

  • LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,460 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Typically, I take the coin with me and send a check when I get home.....or in 30-60-90 days. :D

    "My friends who see my collection sometimes ask what something costs. I tell them and they are in awe at my stupidity." (Baccaruda, 12/03).I find it hard to believe that he (Trump) rushed to some hotel to meet girls of loose morals, although ours are undoubtedly the best in the world. (Putin 1/17) Gone but not forgotten. IGWT, Speedy, Bear, BigE, HokieFore, John Burns, Russ, TahoeDale, Dahlonega, Astrorat, Stewart Blay, Oldhoopster, Broadstruck, Ricko, Big Moose, Cardinal.
  • ShortgapbobShortgapbob Posts: 2,332 ✭✭✭

    We take it all at a show, but the "down and dirty" price is usually for a check/cash.

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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Cash rules.... I always carry the cash... either at coin shows or gun shows.... Also seems to get the best price..... Now why would that be? ;):D And yes, I have carried five figures in cash to shows... Cheers, RickO

  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,846 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I remember major coin shows back in the 1960's where I saw major deals being transacted with $500 and $1000 bills. I was in my teens at the time and it definite left an impression on me. :o

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  • logger7logger7 Posts: 9,041 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I had a significant dealer there who said cash only or he would have to charge me sales tax on some proof gold eagles with box and papers. I'm not sure what the law is on that there.

  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,809 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @logger7 said:
    I had a significant dealer there who said cash only or he would have to charge me sales tax on some proof gold eagles with box and papers. I'm not sure what the law is on that there.

    The fact that you paid paid in cash did not exempt you from the sales taxes. I think that you were dealing with a bit of the "underground economy," perhaps all of the taxes.

    Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
  • cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 10,181 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @logger7 said:
    I had a significant dealer there who said cash only or he would have to charge me sales tax on some proof gold eagles with box and papers. I'm not sure what the law is on that there.

    It sounds like he was not planning on reporting any of the proceeds as income or why else would he care about sales tax since the buyer pays it?

  • cmerlo1cmerlo1 Posts: 7,960 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Have one of the bodyguards in your entourage hold the briefcase with the cash in it, and direct him to pay each dealer. That's how I would do it if I had a briefcase full of cash and an entourage with bodyguards.

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  • StorkStork Posts: 5,207 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Bullion is often quite acceptable.


  • ThePennyLadyThePennyLady Posts: 4,495 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I take all (except American Express). Apple Square has made it very easy and simple to take credit cards, so that's what I use. But everyone is correct in that you usually get a better deal with cash. Be sure to stop by my table and say hi (table 845) and perhaps even "pose" for my show report!

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  • TopographicOceansTopographicOceans Posts: 6,535 ✭✭✭✭

    @logger7 said:
    I had a significant dealer there who said cash only or he would have to charge me sales tax on some proof gold eagles with box and papers. I'm not sure what the law is on that there.

    Cash makes it a double win for the dealer.
    He doesn't have to bother reporting it and paying the required sales tax.
    He doesn't have to bother reporting it on his State and Federal income taxes.

    Oh wait, that's 3 felonies.
    I don't know about the States, but the IRS has rewards for people who report tax cheats.

  • cnncoinscnncoins Posts: 414 ✭✭✭✭

    We can take cash, check, Credit Cards, or trade. Stop by table #345 and say hello!

  • DancingFireDancingFire Posts: 311 ✭✭✭
    edited March 21, 2017 6:15PM

    @logger7 said:
    I had a significant dealer there who said cash only or he would have to charge me sales tax on some proof gold eagles with box and papers. I'm not sure what the law is on that there.

    If you purchase $1500 or > here in Ca. there will be no sales tax.

  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,846 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @DancingFire said:

    @logger7 said:
    I had a significant dealer there who said cash only or he would have to charge me sales tax on some proof gold eagles with box and papers. I'm not sure what the law is on that there.

    If you purchase $1500 or > here in Ca. there will be no sales tax.

    In Maryland, there's no sales tax for purchases of coins, paper money, gold, etc over $1000.

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
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  • logger7logger7 Posts: 9,041 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @TopographicOceans said:

    @logger7 said:
    I had a significant dealer there who said cash only or he would have to charge me sales tax on some proof gold eagles with box and papers. I'm not sure what the law is on that there.

    Cash makes it a double win for the dealer.
    He doesn't have to bother reporting it and paying the required sales tax.
    He doesn't have to bother reporting it on his State and Federal income taxes.

    Oh wait, that's 3 felonies.
    I don't know about the States, but the IRS has rewards for people who report tax cheats.

    But if the law is not enforced who is going to care? I spoke with the city tax people about what their law/enforcement was when the ana was in Philly and they were pretty nonchalant.

  • dbtunrdbtunr Posts: 614 ✭✭✭

    try Venmo for deals under $1000

  • RogerBRogerB Posts: 8,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    We 99% forget that Sir Longacre need only impress his signet to guarantee payment. So discussions of cash, check, credit card and mere money are immaterial. Plus, those of Longacre's status always have both chauffeur and valet available at all times.

    :)

  • kazkaz Posts: 9,274 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Does Longacre carry his own sealing wax, or are dealers expected to have it at the ready?

  • WalkerfanWalkerfan Posts: 9,747 ✭✭✭✭✭

    You can still get great deals with checks instead of cash at coin shows. If the dealer doesn't know you or know you well, he will ask to see your driver's license and will photocopy it. Then, if your check bounces, he (and the authorities) have your info and can easily track you down.

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  • Cougar1978Cougar1978 Posts: 8,781 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 23, 2017 5:45AM

    Cash is king at shows - after all these are money shows. I wb glad take your gold coins at melt and slabbed coins at Bluesheet as trade in if your a little short of cash.

    Wish they would make $200 and $500 FRN.

    Investor
  • LongacreLongacre Posts: 16,717 ✭✭✭

    @kaz said:
    Does Longacre carry his own sealing wax, or are dealers expected to have it at the ready?

    Longacre's personal valet carries the sealing wax, if you need to know.

    Always took candy from strangers
    Didn't wanna get me no trade
    Never want to be like papa
    Working for the boss every night and day
    --"Happy", by the Rolling Stones (1972)

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