Anyone want to message this seller that his two coins are fakes?

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AUandAG
AUandAG Posts: 25,050 ✭✭✭✭✭
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I'm talking to him but he's not believing.
bob:)
ebay.com/itm/152481330923?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

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  • TequilaDave
    TequilaDave Posts: 271 ✭✭✭
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    Ask him to do the magnet test and tell him if they stick to a magnet, then it's real. My guess is you'll get the truth this way...

  • coindeuce
    coindeuce Posts: 13,527 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 22, 2017 10:24AM
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    Has a FB rating of 34, with only 2 of them from buyers of Xboxes. Gullible newb seller or scammer ?
    Apparently the jig is up on the 1885-CC - no bids with same time remaining as on the 'bogus '93-S.
    Both reported as undisclosed replicas and as counterfeits.

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  • LanceNewmanOCC
    LanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    wow. that, is, bad.

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  • LanceNewmanOCC
    LanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 22, 2017 10:21AM
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    it bums me out to see this stuff because it is lose - lose - lose. honest or dishonest.

    the good thing? at least i can now buy a light saber from an evil sith TO fight the forces of evil with.

    thanks auandag!

    no serious numismatist would dare go without one of these to protect his hoard.

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  • AUandAG
    AUandAG Posts: 25,050 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    He's a neighbor it seems and said he took them to the local shop and had them examined before putting them up. I called him out on that as I know the owners would never have said it's real. I offered to meet him there at the shop this afternoon but really do not want to waste my time. Just let him know and he'll back off probably. IF not I'll get to know a neighbor that might have some REAL coins?
    Ha
    bob

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  • LanceNewmanOCC
    LanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @AUandAG said:
    IF not I'll get to know a neighbor that might have some REAL coins?
    Ha
    bob

    i like the optimistic, good thinking.

    on the other hand, if we see your name on the NCIC, we'll know whom the prime suspect is.

    in any event, thanks for staying in the fight. i've no doubt some good comes about from all this uncompensated effort.
    .

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  • David1940
    David1940 Posts: 70 ✭✭✭
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    Being the newb that I am, I must ask, what tells you they are fake?

  • AUandAG
    AUandAG Posts: 25,050 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Well, for starters they just do not look right. Mushy details and such. The upon closer look you can see the 1 in the date is not in the correct position over the dentil. It's between two and that tells me it's fake as there was only one obverse used in SF in 1893. The 85cc is just plain junk and looks it.
    Does that help?
    bob

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  • LindeDad
    LindeDad Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Not him but did send a message to eBay in the form of two reports.

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  • AUandAG
    AUandAG Posts: 25,050 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Just got off the phone with the owner of the shop he claims to have taken the dollars to and he said, Nope, not here. Hmmmmmm, I'll still meet him in person at 3 if he wants. Any guesses he will show?

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  • Azurescens
    Azurescens Posts: 2,907 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I'm terrible at spotting fakes but that screams it from a mile away.

  • AMRC
    AMRC Posts: 4,280 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Nte sent: "Your coin is not real. Be careful as selling this type of coin can ruin your eBay reputation, not to mention it is illegal to deal in counterfeit US currency"

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  • cameonut2011
    cameonut2011 Posts: 10,862 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    It is a harmless "fantasy" coin that is obvious to all of those in the know. No one would possibly be fooled into thinking this was a genuine 1893-S Morgan Dollar as struck by the Mint. Accordingly, neither the seller nor producer have any moral or legal culpability, or so I have been admonished by forum experts.

  • cameonut2011
    cameonut2011 Posts: 10,862 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I'll report it and move on! I hope others will follow suit.

  • COINS MAKE CENTS
    COINS MAKE CENTS Posts: 1,907 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Wow they are really bad. Whoever made them wasn't even trying

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  • AUandAG
    AUandAG Posts: 25,050 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Okay, sent him a message I'm ready to meet.....ten minutes ago......we'll see if he responds.

    bob >:)

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  • coinpro76
    coinpro76 Posts: 366 ✭✭✭
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    The bidding is up to $5900 USD this is getting out of hand...

    all around collector of many fine things

  • AUandAG
    AUandAG Posts: 25,050 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I suspect the winning bidder will not be paying....

    bob:)

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  • Wabbit2313
    Wabbit2313 Posts: 7,268 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XcKBmdfpWs

  • AUandAG
    AUandAG Posts: 25,050 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Yes, when you are retired you can mess with folks......good hobby for us old guys. LOL

    bob

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  • Coloradobryan
    Coloradobryan Posts: 1 ✭
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    Amazing that someone willing to spend nearly six grand on a 93-s wouldn't even check the coin against a known good coin...

  • CascadeChris
    CascadeChris Posts: 2,529 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 22, 2017 3:20PM
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    @AUandAG said:
    I suspect the winning bidder will not be paying....

    bob:)

    There will be no winner :wink:

    The more you VAM..
  • AUandAG
    AUandAG Posts: 25,050 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Well, so much for meeting at 3.....no show and I went to the coin shop and they have not seen him either, of course.

    bob:)

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  • BruceS
    BruceS Posts: 1,549 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I suspected that after the bid went from 1K to 5K in one jump. Somebody's not going to be too happy when waiting for the payment.

    @CascadeChris said:

    @AUandAG said:
    I suspect the winning bidder will not be paying....

    bob:)

    There will be no winner :wink:

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  • CascadeChris
    CascadeChris Posts: 2,529 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @AUandAG said:
    Well, so much for meeting at 3.....no show and I went to the coin shop and they have not seen him either, of course.

    bob:)

    Of course not. He thinks he's about to score a cool $6k+. Should be gone by tomorrow.

    The more you VAM..
  • LanceNewmanOCC
    LanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 22, 2017 4:14PM
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    @AUandAG said:
    Yes, when you are retired you can mess with folks......good hobby for us old guys. LOL

    bob

    i wonder whom the "moron(s)" are bidding on that, that thing.
    .

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  • AUandAG
    AUandAG Posts: 25,050 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Moron??? Moron???? Really Lance? Them's fight'n words, 'eh?

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  • AUandAG
    AUandAG Posts: 25,050 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 22, 2017 4:45PM
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    I love mess'n with sellers of fakes....moron or not....over 7k now.

    bob >:)o:)

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  • cameonut2011
    cameonut2011 Posts: 10,862 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @CascadeChris said:

    @AUandAG said:
    I suspect the winning bidder will not be paying....

    bob:)

    There will be no winner :wink:

    The underbidder would be assuming that it isn't another poster also bidding to keep someone else from being cheated.

  • AUandAG
    AUandAG Posts: 25,050 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Underbidder is protected from self harm.

    bob

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  • Wabbit2313
    Wabbit2313 Posts: 7,268 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    16K now, LOL

  • cameonut2011
    cameonut2011 Posts: 10,862 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @Wabbit2313 said:
    16K now, LOL

    Now people are playing with him. lol

  • lkeigwin
    lkeigwin Posts: 16,895 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    You guys are going to give him a heart attack!
    Lance.

    Coin Photography Services / Everyman Registry set / BHNC #213
  • cameonut2011
    cameonut2011 Posts: 10,862 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @lkeigwin said:
    You guys are going to give him a heart attack!
    Lance.

    He isn't going to be too pleased when he gets the notice from eBay that it is killing the auction.

  • lkeigwin
    lkeigwin Posts: 16,895 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I agree. I figure he'll blame Bob so the rest of us are safe.
    Lance.

    Coin Photography Services / Everyman Registry set / BHNC #213
  • AUandAG
    AUandAG Posts: 25,050 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I'm sure he will and we live in the same neighborhood! Yikes!! Rattl'n in my shoes!! Can't wait for ebay to take their share if it goes all the way and then him having to ship it Registered, etc.

    bob:):)

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  • AUandAG
    AUandAG Posts: 25,050 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Oh damn, that 85cc is over a grand now and it's ..................................................................................just junk.

    bob

    Registry: CC lowballs (boblindstrom), bobinvegas1989@yahoo.com
  • TurboSnail
    TurboSnail Posts: 1,669 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 22, 2017 5:56PM
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    lol. I just locate a group of shill bidding suspects. Aka Coin-Justice-League B)

  • LanceNewmanOCC
    LanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 22, 2017 6:18PM
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    @AUandAG said:
    Moron??? Moron???? Really Lance? Them's fight'n words, 'eh?


    .

    <--- look what's behind the mask! - cool link 1/NO ~ 2/NNP ~ 3/NNC ~ 4/CF ~ 5/PG ~ 6/Cert ~ 7/NGC 7a/NGC pop~ 8/NGCF ~ 9/HA archives ~ 10/PM ~ 11/NM ~ 12/ANACS cert ~ 13/ANACS pop - report fakes 1/ACEF ~ report fakes/thefts 1/NCIS - Numi-Classes SS ~ Bass ~ Transcribed Docs NNP - clashed coins - error training - V V mm styles -

  • coinhack
    coinhack Posts: 1,226 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Wowzer! 100 Bids and over $40,000. That is close to AU58 money.

  • CascadeChris
    CascadeChris Posts: 2,529 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Wow. I need some popcorn. You guys are hilarious.

    The more you VAM..
  • coindeuce
    coindeuce Posts: 13,527 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 22, 2017 7:20PM
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    $45,099 -

    I hope eBay gets stuck with compensating smoeone. The seller ain't even smart enough to see that someone bid against themselves through a range of $29K. (15,999 > 44,999) Blinded by greed ?

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  • creekdalton
    creekdalton Posts: 49 ✭✭✭
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    @David1940 said:
    Being the newb that I am, I must ask, what tells you they are fake?

    Newbie to the forums too, but here's what I see...Side by side of an authentic backside and the one being discussed. Lack of details...rim doesn't look correct, position of the star, below the 'A' in "AMERICA' is off, 'S' mint mark too big...

  • coindeuce
    coindeuce Posts: 13,527 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    The lack of detail in the two wreath leaves above N of ONE on the suspect coin is a RED FLAG.

    "Everything is on its way to somewhere. Everything." - George Malley, Phenomenon
    http://www.american-legacy-coins.com

  • CascadeChris
    CascadeChris Posts: 2,529 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 22, 2017 7:34PM
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    @creekdalton said:

    @David1940 said:
    Being the newb that I am, I must ask, what tells you they are fake?

    Newbie to the forums too, but here's what I see...Side by side of an authentic backside and the one being discussed. Lack of details...rim doesn't look correct, position of the star, below the 'A' in "AMERICA' is off, 'S' mint mark too big...

    Good points in general but with 93s which is THE most counterfited Morgan only 1 obverse die was used on the originals and it was a far date position. The date position on this fake is a near date. That's all you need to know.

    Count how many denticles away the left side of the bottom of the 1 Is in relation to the neck point on the authentic ones and then compare to this one...

    http://www.vamworld.com/1893-S+VAMs

    The more you VAM..
  • TurboSnail
    TurboSnail Posts: 1,669 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Listings gone. So was the dream of becoming a millionaire.

  • AUandAG
    AUandAG Posts: 25,050 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    awwwww, crap. Missed another one.

    Maybe we'll meet up and I can snag it on the cheap in person????

    bob:)

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  • cameonut2011
    cameonut2011 Posts: 10,862 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Darn. I wanted to see if anyone would outbid my nuclear bid.

  • sparky64
    sparky64 Posts: 7,063 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    "Anyone want to message this seller that his two coins are fakes?"
    Message received and acted upon.

    "If I say something in the woods and my wife isn't there to hear it.....am I still wrong?"

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