Wow I would hate to think people would not trust my posts. I assure you all, this is a real coin, with a real error. I understand that its pretty suspicious that there is no "ghost impression" or a "faint" strike of some sort, but believe me, I am puzzled all the same. You would think that the planchet grain would be disturbed some what, being a machinist, I have alot of knowledge on metal. My guess is that the grease filled up the missing words, and the die was tilted back a .001 or so, just my thoughts.
@CNCMACHINIST said:
I found this one today, I don't think it is a "grease filled" die...what do you think?
Nice coin. There's some "no trust" or "devils coin" cents with IGWT missing completely.
I have a few wheats with no Liberty. They're really neat to come across. I have a couple 194_ error cents, actually quite a few, and it's just awesome to see when this happens.
I trust that you've now gotten the word play in the posts above
Hmmm.so, I have found a faux....missing "WT" coin? In other words, this coin is intentionally modified for shits and giggles...I am open to that possibility, but man, looking at it in a pretty good loup, it look ligit..but I need to have an expert physically check it out....thats why I post here, I get real good observations that help me greatly....thx!
being a machinist, if someone was to mill away the WT from this coin I guarantee I would know without question. so I would think this happened, if fake, at the minting facility.
It's legit and these things have happened for well over a hundred years... you can clearly see in the metal that it never made it onto the coin. You spot anything else on it? How's the reverse strike? Sometimes when there's one error there can be another.
@CNCMACHINIST said:
Wow I would hate to think people would not trust my posts. I assure you all, this is a real coin, with a real error. I understand that its pretty suspicious that there is no "ghost impression" or a "faint" strike of some sort, but believe me, I am puzzled all the same. You would think that the planchet grain would be disturbed some what, being a machinist, I have alot of knowledge on metal. My guess is that the grease filled up the missing words, and the die was tilted back a .001 or so, just my thoughts.
They were being facetious. No one is doubting you
M
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@CNCMACHINIST said:
Wow I would hate to think people would not trust my posts. I assure you all, this is a real coin, with a real error. I understand that its pretty suspicious that there is no "ghost impression" or a "faint" strike of some sort, but believe me, I am puzzled all the same. You would think that the planchet grain would be disturbed some what, being a machinist, I have alot of knowledge on metal. My guess is that the grease filled up the missing words, and the die was tilted back a .001 or so, just my thoughts.
We simply indicate there is a lack of "trust". And your penny is truly an "Un-Trust" -"Worthy". Nothing more..
Ok, so I just got it...lol Un trust worthy...cause the "we trust" is missing...hahahaha...I am so serious sometimes not to see the obvious humor....I need to lightn' up...lol
Yes... grease filled die.... and no one doubts you... they are only implying the lack of 'we trust' makes the coin untrustworthy... That is a neat cent... I would certainly keep it if I were to find it or one like it... Cheers, RickO
@CNCMACHINIST said:
Ok, so I just got it...lol Un trust worthy...cause the "we trust" is missing...hahahaha...I am so serious sometimes not to see the obvious humor....I need to lightn' up...lol
I read all the posts just because I was waiting for you to get it Funny
Struck thru a filled die/grease or other
machinery oil, etc.
It's not altered or played with in that area, imo.
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@UMCane said:
Is it just me or am I only one to see parallel lines "whizz" through the "WE TRUST" area? Also, Isn't Lincoln's hair a tad flat at his comb-over?
Not to be a Doubting Thomas....But I was thinking the same thing.
The close up shows very flat, poorly struck, hair on Abe. The full coin photo shows a pretty healthy pompadour with well defined groove between forehead and hair. What's up with that?
Guess it could be photo tricks....but it doesn't appear to be the same coin, to me.
@UMCane said:
Is it just me or am I only one to see parallel lines "whizz" through the "WE TRUST" area? Also, Isn't Lincoln's hair a tad flat at his comb-over?
Not to be a Doubting Thomas....But I was thinking the same thing.
The close up shows very flat, poorly struck, hair on Abe. The full coin photo shows a pretty healthy pompadour with well defined groove between forehead and hair. What's up with that?
Guess it could be photo tricks....but it doesn't appear to be the same coin, to me.
Yes, look at where the hairline meets the head on the whole coin vs. the close-up. Not even close.
Just my 1 cents worth
"Just because you were born on 3rd base doesn't mean you hit a triple"
Here are some other pictures with different lighting on black back ground. Maybe solve mystery for some?? Also you can see in the reverse that area between the "A" and ",NT" that, that area is exactly opposite to the front where the we trust did not strike. Plus FG also missing. Thanks for all the feed back and input! Also thanks Mr. Weinberg for the comment!
It's not often I disagree with FredWeinberg, but I you look at the posters last initial photo of the obverse, there seems to be a shadow caused by a depression, in my opinion, made be a Dremmel or something. As far as zinc showing, this could be taken care of by some sort of coloring. Nice try CNCMACHINIST.
I think the reverse photo, with the same
weakness/no detail opposite the obv. side,
shows that it was not machined or dremmeled.
The rims are fully intact, which rules out a tapered
end or tapered thin planchet.
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I think its awesome!!!
That's very cool looking for some reason!
HAPPY COLLECTING
Thanks All!
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99% grease filled.
1% tapered.
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I don't trust it. Its very untrustworthy
LOL! Real coin CascadeChris..I told my wife someone is going to call BS on it or its photoshopped..lol
It's an authentic error. Just not a trustworthy coin
Trust is the issue here...
Struck through grease. Not likely a tapered planchet, IMO, as the rim is fully formed in that area.
Wow I would hate to think people would not trust my posts. I assure you all, this is a real coin, with a real error. I understand that its pretty suspicious that there is no "ghost impression" or a "faint" strike of some sort, but believe me, I am puzzled all the same. You would think that the planchet grain would be disturbed some what, being a machinist, I have alot of knowledge on metal. My guess is that the grease filled up the missing words, and the die was tilted back a .001 or so, just my thoughts.
Looks like it was cnc machined...
lol!!!
Struck thru (grease) error
Here's one of my coins that I only partially trust. Once the trust is gone it's hard to regain it.
Nice!
Nice coin. There's some "no trust" or "devils coin" cents with IGWT missing completely.
I have a few wheats with no Liberty. They're really neat to come across. I have a couple 194_ error cents, actually quite a few, and it's just awesome to see when this happens.
I trust that you've now gotten the word play in the posts above
Keep looking! They're out there
good eye.
Hmmm.so, I have found a faux....missing "WT" coin? In other words, this coin is intentionally modified for shits and giggles...I am open to that possibility, but man, looking at it in a pretty good loup, it look ligit..but I need to have an expert physically check it out....thats why I post here, I get real good observations that help me greatly....thx!
It's a cool coin
being a machinist, if someone was to mill away the WT from this coin I guarantee I would know without question. so I would think this happened, if fake, at the minting facility.
It's legit and these things have happened for well over a hundred years... you can clearly see in the metal that it never made it onto the coin. You spot anything else on it? How's the reverse strike? Sometimes when there's one error there can be another.
Filled die error.
They were being facetious. No one is doubting you
M
Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
We simply indicate there is a lack of "trust". And your penny is truly an "Un-Trust" -"Worthy". Nothing more..
Ok, so I just got it...lol Un trust worthy...cause the "we trust" is missing...hahahaha...I am so serious sometimes not to see the obvious humor....I need to lightn' up...lol
Yes... grease filled die.... and no one doubts you... they are only implying the lack of 'we trust' makes the coin untrustworthy...
That is a neat cent... I would certainly keep it if I were to find it or one like it... Cheers, RickO
I've never seen that error before, thanks for posting it
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Looking at all the lines in that area, I think Dremel is involved. Just my opinion.
It's a zlincoln. There would be exposed zinc if a tool was used to grind down the letters.
The hair also seems to be a bit blob impacted. Not much, but i could see it if grease were the cause.
And if i can....... trust
my eyes.
I read all the posts just because I was waiting for you to get it
Funny
great thread! nice find and photos.
C'mon. Really? The bottoms of WE are showing, not evident in other pics.
thats cool looking. the good old grease filled stuff.
Very cool. Sure would like to hear from the Captain, or Fred.
How is this detail after the D and this whole coin the same picture?
Very cool. Great find.
Struck thru a filled die/grease or other
machinery oil, etc.
It's not altered or played with in that area, imo.
Is it just me or am I only one to see parallel lines "whizz" through the "WE TRUST" area? Also, Isn't Lincoln's hair a tad flat at his comb-over?
"Just because you were born on 3rd base doesn't mean you hit a triple"
Not to be a Doubting Thomas....But I was thinking the same thing.
The close up shows very flat, poorly struck, hair on Abe. The full coin photo shows a pretty healthy pompadour with well defined groove between forehead and hair. What's up with that?
Guess it could be photo tricks....but it doesn't appear to be the same coin, to me.
Sort of like this nickel with almost no steps. On a 2010 D

Grease
https://www.autismforums.com/media/albums/acrylic-colors-by-rocco.291/
Yes, look at where the hairline meets the head on the whole coin vs. the close-up. Not even close.
Just my 1 cents worth
"Just because you were born on 3rd base doesn't mean you hit a triple"
Yes, look at where the hairline meets the head on the whole coin vs. the close-up. Not even close.
Just my 1 cents worth
"Just because you were born on 3rd base doesn't mean you hit a triple"
You removed it with a CNC...
A 2010-D "No Steps" Nickel....
Now there is something worth saving!
"Just because you were born on 3rd base doesn't mean you hit a triple"
Here are some other pictures with different lighting on black back ground. Maybe solve mystery for some?? Also you can see in the reverse that area between the "A" and ",NT" that, that area is exactly opposite to the front where the we trust did not strike. Plus FG also missing. Thanks for all the feed back and input! Also thanks Mr. Weinberg for the comment!


@CNCMACHINIST ... great pictures ...not sure what you are using, but really very clear and detail shows well. Cheers, RickO
It's not often I disagree with FredWeinberg, but I you look at the posters last initial photo of the obverse, there seems to be a shadow caused by a depression, in my opinion, made be a Dremmel or something. As far as zinc showing, this could be taken care of by some sort of coloring. Nice try CNCMACHINIST.
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can/will you weigh it.
i doubt it is altered. those look like planchet striations from the stock being rolled out.
still looks to be tapered/thin, especially with corresponding weakness on rev. seen this on numerous error coins.
better pics needed for 100% full error diagnostic analysis.
you can send him to me and we'll do this up right.
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I think the reverse photo, with the same
weakness/no detail opposite the obv. side,
shows that it was not machined or dremmeled.
The rims are fully intact, which rules out a tapered
end or tapered thin planchet.
what causes this.
i've seen it numerous times.
i used tapered for lack of a better explanation.
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