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"We Trust" missing completly from 2003 D Penny

I found this one today, I don't think it is a "grease filled" die...what do you think?

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  • ManorcourtmanManorcourtman Posts: 8,184 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think its awesome!!!

  • COINS MAKE CENTSCOINS MAKE CENTS Posts: 1,861 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That's very cool looking for some reason!

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  • CNCMACHINISTCNCMACHINIST Posts: 131 ✭✭✭

    Thanks All!

  • LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭

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    99% grease filled.

    1% tapered.
    .

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  • CNCMACHINISTCNCMACHINIST Posts: 131 ✭✭✭

    LOL! Real coin CascadeChris..I told my wife someone is going to call BS on it or its photoshopped..lol

  • CascadeChrisCascadeChris Posts: 2,529 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 20, 2017 5:53PM

    It's an authentic error. Just not a trustworthy coin :wink:

    The more you VAM..
  • TurboSnailTurboSnail Posts: 1,668 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Trust is the issue here...

  • MedalCollectorMedalCollector Posts: 2,023 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Struck through grease. Not likely a tapered planchet, IMO, as the rim is fully formed in that area.

  • CNCMACHINISTCNCMACHINIST Posts: 131 ✭✭✭

    Wow I would hate to think people would not trust my posts. I assure you all, this is a real coin, with a real error. I understand that its pretty suspicious that there is no "ghost impression" or a "faint" strike of some sort, but believe me, I am puzzled all the same. You would think that the planchet grain would be disturbed some what, being a machinist, I have alot of knowledge on metal. My guess is that the grease filled up the missing words, and the die was tilted back a .001 or so, just my thoughts.

  • jerseycat101jerseycat101 Posts: 1,360 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks like it was cnc machined... :D

  • CNCMACHINISTCNCMACHINIST Posts: 131 ✭✭✭

    lol!!!

  • ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Struck thru (grease) error

  • CNCMACHINISTCNCMACHINIST Posts: 131 ✭✭✭

    Nice!

  • AzurescensAzurescens Posts: 2,783 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @CNCMACHINIST said:
    I found this one today, I don't think it is a "grease filled" die...what do you think?

    Nice coin. There's some "no trust" or "devils coin" cents with IGWT missing completely.

    I have a few wheats with no Liberty. They're really neat to come across. I have a couple 194_ error cents, actually quite a few, and it's just awesome to see when this happens.

    I trust that you've now gotten the word play in the posts above ;)

    Keep looking! They're out there =) good eye.

  • CNCMACHINISTCNCMACHINIST Posts: 131 ✭✭✭

    Hmmm.so, I have found a faux....missing "WT" coin? In other words, this coin is intentionally modified for shits and giggles...I am open to that possibility, but man, looking at it in a pretty good loup, it look ligit..but I need to have an expert physically check it out....thats why I post here, I get real good observations that help me greatly....thx!

  • TopographicOceansTopographicOceans Posts: 6,535 ✭✭✭✭

    It's a cool coin

  • CNCMACHINISTCNCMACHINIST Posts: 131 ✭✭✭

    being a machinist, if someone was to mill away the WT from this coin I guarantee I would know without question. so I would think this happened, if fake, at the minting facility.

  • AzurescensAzurescens Posts: 2,783 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It's legit and these things have happened for well over a hundred years... you can clearly see in the metal that it never made it onto the coin. You spot anything else on it? How's the reverse strike? Sometimes when there's one error there can be another.

  • mannie graymannie gray Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Filled die error.

  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @CNCMACHINIST said:
    Wow I would hate to think people would not trust my posts. I assure you all, this is a real coin, with a real error. I understand that its pretty suspicious that there is no "ghost impression" or a "faint" strike of some sort, but believe me, I am puzzled all the same. You would think that the planchet grain would be disturbed some what, being a machinist, I have alot of knowledge on metal. My guess is that the grease filled up the missing words, and the die was tilted back a .001 or so, just my thoughts.

    They were being facetious. No one is doubting you

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  • TurboSnailTurboSnail Posts: 1,668 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 20, 2017 11:23PM

    @CNCMACHINIST said:
    Wow I would hate to think people would not trust my posts. I assure you all, this is a real coin, with a real error. I understand that its pretty suspicious that there is no "ghost impression" or a "faint" strike of some sort, but believe me, I am puzzled all the same. You would think that the planchet grain would be disturbed some what, being a machinist, I have alot of knowledge on metal. My guess is that the grease filled up the missing words, and the die was tilted back a .001 or so, just my thoughts.

    We simply indicate there is a lack of "trust". And your penny is truly an "Un-Trust" -"Worthy". Nothing more.. :p

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yes... grease filled die.... and no one doubts you... they are only implying the lack of 'we trust' makes the coin untrustworthy... :D That is a neat cent... I would certainly keep it if I were to find it or one like it... Cheers, RickO

  • 1630Boston1630Boston Posts: 14,111 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I've never seen that error before, thanks for posting it :smile:

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  • pmacpmac Posts: 3,189 ✭✭✭

    Looking at all the lines in that area, I think Dremel is involved. Just my opinion.

    Paul
  • topstuftopstuf Posts: 14,803 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The hair also seems to be a bit blob impacted. Not much, but i could see it if grease were the cause.
    And if i can....... trust
    my eyes.

  • hchcoinhchcoin Posts: 4,837 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @CNCMACHINIST said:
    Ok, so I just got it...lol Un trust worthy...cause the "we trust" is missing...hahahaha...I am so serious sometimes not to see the obvious humor....I need to lightn' up...lol

    I read all the posts just because I was waiting for you to get it ;) Funny

  • stevebensteveben Posts: 4,638 ✭✭✭✭✭

    great thread! nice find and photos.

  • epcjimi1epcjimi1 Posts: 3,489 ✭✭✭
    edited March 21, 2017 12:04PM

    C'mon. Really? The bottoms of WE are showing, not evident in other pics.

  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 29,220 ✭✭✭✭✭

    thats cool looking. the good old grease filled stuff.

  • AMRCAMRC Posts: 4,280 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Very cool. Sure would like to hear from the Captain, or Fred.

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  • epcjimi1epcjimi1 Posts: 3,489 ✭✭✭

    How is this detail after the D and this whole coin the same picture?


  • Rob85635Rob85635 Posts: 1,230 ✭✭✭

    Very cool. Great find.

    Rob the Newbie
  • FredWeinbergFredWeinberg Posts: 5,925 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Struck thru a filled die/grease or other
    machinery oil, etc.

    It's not altered or played with in that area, imo.

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  • UMCaneUMCane Posts: 213 ✭✭✭

    Is it just me or am I only one to see parallel lines "whizz" through the "WE TRUST" area? Also, Isn't Lincoln's hair a tad flat at his comb-over?

    "Just because you were born on 3rd base doesn't mean you hit a triple"

  • TommyTypeTommyType Posts: 4,586 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @UMCane said:
    Is it just me or am I only one to see parallel lines "whizz" through the "WE TRUST" area? Also, Isn't Lincoln's hair a tad flat at his comb-over?

    Not to be a Doubting Thomas....But I was thinking the same thing.

    The close up shows very flat, poorly struck, hair on Abe. The full coin photo shows a pretty healthy pompadour with well defined groove between forehead and hair. What's up with that?

    Guess it could be photo tricks....but it doesn't appear to be the same coin, to me. :neutral:

    Easily distracted Type Collector
  • Aspie_RoccoAspie_Rocco Posts: 3,666 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Sort of like this nickel with almost no steps. On a 2010 D
    Grease

  • UMCaneUMCane Posts: 213 ✭✭✭

    Yes, look at where the hairline meets the head on the whole coin vs. the close-up. Not even close.
    Just my 1 cents worth :p

    "Just because you were born on 3rd base doesn't mean you hit a triple"

  • UMCaneUMCane Posts: 213 ✭✭✭

    @TommyType said:

    @UMCane said:
    Is it just me or am I only one to see parallel lines "whizz" through the "WE TRUST" area? Also, Isn't Lincoln's hair a tad flat at his comb-over?

    Not to be a Doubting Thomas....But I was thinking the same thing.

    The close up shows very flat, poorly struck, hair on Abe. The full coin photo shows a pretty healthy pompadour with well defined groove between forehead and hair. What's up with that?

    Guess it could be photo tricks....but it doesn't appear to be the same coin, to me. :neutral:

    Yes, look at where the hairline meets the head on the whole coin vs. the close-up. Not even close.
    Just my 1 cents worth :p

    "Just because you were born on 3rd base doesn't mean you hit a triple"

  • OuthaulOuthaul Posts: 7,440 ✭✭✭✭✭

    You removed it with a CNC... :p

  • UMCaneUMCane Posts: 213 ✭✭✭

    A 2010-D "No Steps" Nickel....
    Now there is something worth saving!

    "Just because you were born on 3rd base doesn't mean you hit a triple"

  • CNCMACHINISTCNCMACHINIST Posts: 131 ✭✭✭

    Here are some other pictures with different lighting on black back ground. Maybe solve mystery for some?? Also you can see in the reverse that area between the "A" and ",NT" that, that area is exactly opposite to the front where the we trust did not strike. Plus FG also missing. Thanks for all the feed back and input! Also thanks Mr. Weinberg for the comment!

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @CNCMACHINIST ... great pictures ...not sure what you are using, but really very clear and detail shows well. Cheers, RickO

  • pmacpmac Posts: 3,189 ✭✭✭

    It's not often I disagree with FredWeinberg, but I you look at the posters last initial photo of the obverse, there seems to be a shadow caused by a depression, in my opinion, made be a Dremmel or something. As far as zinc showing, this could be taken care of by some sort of coloring. Nice try CNCMACHINIST.

    Paul
  • LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 22, 2017 7:45AM

    .
    can/will you weigh it.

    i doubt it is altered. those look like planchet striations from the stock being rolled out.

    still looks to be tapered/thin, especially with corresponding weakness on rev. seen this on numerous error coins.

    better pics needed for 100% full error diagnostic analysis.

    you can send him to me and we'll do this up right.
    .

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  • FredWeinbergFredWeinberg Posts: 5,925 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think the reverse photo, with the same
    weakness/no detail opposite the obv. side,
    shows that it was not machined or dremmeled.

    The rims are fully intact, which rules out a tapered
    end or tapered thin planchet.

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  • LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @FredWeinberg said:
    I think the reverse photo, with the same
    weakness/no detail opposite the obv. side,

    what causes this.

    i've seen it numerous times.

    i used tapered for lack of a better explanation.
    .

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