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Would this Quarter warrant a CAM of DCAM designation?

SanctionIISanctionII Posts: 13,283 ✭✭✭✭✭

Today's EBay purchase, to upgrade the quarter in my 1956 Proof Set.

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    KellenCoinKellenCoin Posts: 1,258 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm not knowledgeable, but I would say CAM

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    TopographicOceansTopographicOceans Posts: 6,535 ✭✭✭✭

    Hard to tell from the picture and being in the cellophane.

    The obverse I'd say maybe CAM, but the reverse doesn't look like it.
    Compare the reverse quarter to the reverse dime (which I think is DCAM)

    I guess you have to cut them out and get a better look (and pictures)

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    morgandollar1878morgandollar1878 Posts: 4,006 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Can't really tell with the reverse.

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    davewesendavewesen Posts: 7,009 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Obverse could go DCAM, reverse is photographically challenged for determination of anything, could easily be brilliant.

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    Wabbit2313Wabbit2313 Posts: 7,268 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It is at least a CAM.

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    keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭

    the trouble with this date range is that the Mint had a bad habit of not switching both dies at the same time. I have a 1956 Quarter with a 67-68DCAM obverse and a 67 brilliant reverse. the frost is magnificent but sadly, one sided. your coin looks to be suffering the same fate.

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    BLUEJAYWAYBLUEJAYWAY Posts: 11,903 ✭✭✭✭✭

    What's that going on with the reverse of the Jefferson?

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    SanctionIISanctionII Posts: 13,283 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It is difficult to assess the reverse of the quarter from the photo. However there are indicators and tells which lead me to suspect that the reverse has an appearance similar to the obverse. If I am lucky the coin will be a lock CAM.

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    mannie graymannie gray Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Hopefully it won't be a One-Sided-Wonder.
    Obv. looks DCAM, but they're tough of 56's because CAMs are not that scarce. But you already know that.

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks like a CAM obverse and no on the reverse.... judging from the pictures ... Cheers, RickO

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    ModCrewmanModCrewman Posts: 4,055 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @SanctionII said:
    It is difficult to assess the reverse of the quarter from the photo. However there are indicators and tells which lead me to suspect that the reverse has an appearance similar to the obverse. If I am lucky the coin will be a lock CAM.

    Does your reverse tell have anything to do with the eagle's right leg?

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    CommemKingCommemKing Posts: 2,202 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'd say no initially. But its hard to tell from that photo.

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    BillJonesBillJones Posts: 35,991 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'd say the obverse would rate it for sure, but the photo of the reverse does not show me enough to say one way or the other. One sided Cameo Proofs from this era have never been viewed as Cameo coins, not even in "the raw coin days."

    As for the Cameo designation, I have not seen it applied consistently. Some that look like they should get it but don't. One coin in my collection that has it puzzles me as to why it got it.

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    CapgunCapgun Posts: 1,007 ✭✭✭

    Tough to say until cello removed.

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    PushkinPushkin Posts: 2,029 ✭✭✭

    1/2 a CAM

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    SanctionIISanctionII Posts: 13,283 ✭✭✭✭✭

    After discussing this quarter with Modcrewman and comparing it to photos of his Avatar coin (which is a 1956 PF68 DCAM) we both think my new quarter has the same diagnostic as his. If so it is possible that my new coin would CAM or even DCAM.

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    davewesendavewesen Posts: 7,009 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Once it arrives, you will need to post pics - the obverse die may be the same and similar state as modcrewmans but have a different reverse die. Everyone here loves the obverse, we just can not see the reverse enough to make any determination.

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    SanctionIISanctionII Posts: 13,283 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I received the proof set today. The quarter looks to be a lock CAM. See new photos. Will remove the quater from the cello tonight and post additional photos.

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    Wabbit2313Wabbit2313 Posts: 7,268 ✭✭✭✭✭

    it's a DCAM and will probably need a quick dip to get the haze off. It is one of the more common DCAM dates and you have to pray for a 69 to really have something! Fingers crossed for you!

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    SanctionIISanctionII Posts: 13,283 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Here are photos out of the cello. The frost on both sides is possibly DCAM. The fields are not as black and deep as I would have liked to see. I think the coin would easily CAM.

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    CommemKingCommemKing Posts: 2,202 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 24, 2017 7:02AM

    Not easy to tell from those pics, but it might CAM.

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    ModCrewmanModCrewman Posts: 4,055 ✭✭✭✭✭

    After seeing your pictures of the coin out of the cellophane and making the comparison to my I think you'd have a decent shot at a DCAM. Top coin is yours, bottom is my 1956 68 DCAM. There are several characteristics that are common enough between the two, that it makes me wonder if they were from the same die.


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    SanctionIISanctionII Posts: 13,283 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Modcrewman.

    The quality of the photos of your coin are much better than my photos. I can tell you that in hand the frost on both coins look very similar. However, the fields on your coin look better than the fields on my new quarter.

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    Danye WestDanye West Posts: 193 ✭✭✭

    CAM not DCAM

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    keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭

    top coin is way over-saturated.

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    CameonutCameonut Posts: 7,438 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm on the fence on cam/dcam - mostly because the reverse looks a bit light to me in those pics.

    Here is my 68dcam for comparison - a different die (note frost break dot on neck). But also note the weak reverse. The obverse is as caked as I have ever seen, so I guess it carried the reverse.

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    mt_mslamt_msla Posts: 815 ✭✭✭✭

    NICE one @ModCrewman wow!

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    Wabbit2313Wabbit2313 Posts: 7,268 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If that coin is not DCAM, none are.

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    AngryTurtleAngryTurtle Posts: 1,611 ✭✭✭

    @ModCrewman said:
    After seeing your pictures of the coin out of the cellophane and making the comparison to my I think you'd have a decent shot at a DCAM. Top coin is yours, bottom is my 1956 68 DCAM. There are several characteristics that are common enough between the two, that it makes me wonder if they were from the same die.

    The OP posted coin is definitly a later die state where the frost is starting to fade both obverse and reverse. WIll be at least a CAM, shot DCAM depending how it looks in hand. Also at a quick examination, looks to be the same dies but would want to study it a bit more before declaring my opinion on that.

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