Originally posted by: MrEureka It's a 1752 Guatemala 8 Reales, countermarked by Costa Rica in 1846.
I'm assuming it weighs about 27g, as an 8R should. So:
Why the "8" punch?
Why counterstamp an 8 Reales with only a 2R stamp?
The obverse punch is a 1 Escudo die, which was used, I presume, because it was available and the right size. The reverse 2R punch was not used for any other purpose than counter marking 2R and 8R coins. A 1R reverse punch, apparently made exclusively for this purpose, was used for the 1R and 4R countermarks. I presume that that the authorities did not think it worth the expense and effort to make 4R and 8R punches, in part because the denominations were also being punched onto the coins, separately.
Andy Lustig
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It's a 1752 Guatemala 8 Reales, countermarked by Costa Rica in 1846.
What a wonderfully strange coin. I was also unaware of these (I just gotta start looking outside of my collecting silos more). An amazing reuse of a coin from the prior century. Thanks for sharing the info about the c/m and stretching my knowledge a bit!
Always interested in St Louis MO & IL metro area and Evansville IN national bank notes and Vatican/papal states coins and medals!
Wow! Boosibri, that is one absolutely beautiful, stunning 1821!
Persuing choice countermarked coinage on 2 reales.
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Pruebas: Edited to add [on 01/07/16]: Maybe you were off to sunny Florida, but you left a day too early.
This year, I did not leave "sunny Florida" in time to review the Heritage World Coin auction, and just barely had enough time to view some coins in the Goldberg-Baldwin-Markov event. I did, though, write about the Stack's-Bowers auction.
One reason why I revived this thread is that members of this forum here expressed so much enthusiasm about the NYINC of January 2016, yet were not evidently as excited by this years's event. Did anyone find this year's event to be disappointing?
This year, there were many important or otherwise desirable British and Latin American coins in the auctions and on the bourse floor. Did members of this forum find excellent coins at the NYINC in January 2017?
"In order to understand the scarce coins that you own or see, you must learn about coins that you cannot afford." -Me
I'm not a fond of overpaying so I lost lot after lot that I was interested in.
However just when I thought all hope was lost I walked away this lovely piece. It's a gold scudo from Venezia. I've always loved the design of this coin but never found an example with a strike I was happy with until now
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Latin American Collection
It's a 1752 Guatemala 8 Reales, countermarked by Costa Rica in 1846.
I'm assuming it weighs about 27g, as an 8R should. So:
Why the "8" punch?
Why counterstamp an 8 Reales with only a 2R stamp?
The obverse punch is a 1 Escudo die, which was used, I presume, because it was available and the right size. The reverse 2R punch was not used for any other purpose than counter marking 2R and 8R coins. A 1R reverse punch, apparently made exclusively for this purpose, was used for the 1R and 4R countermarks. I presume that that the authorities did not think it worth the expense and effort to make 4R and 8R punches, in part because the denominations were also being punched onto the coins, separately.
Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.
Visit the Society of US Pattern Collectors at USPatterns.com.
Same coin
How does one get a hater to stop hating?
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marcmoish - that is really a choice example. Those are not easy to find.
..this nice with eye appeal nope, so I'm really happy!
Hey 007 I like that one too - way cool eye appeal for a 50!!
Latin American Collection
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Impulse purchase
It's a 1752 Guatemala 8 Reales, countermarked by Costa Rica in 1846.
What a wonderfully strange coin. I was also unaware of these (I just gotta start looking outside of my collecting silos more). An amazing reuse of a coin from the prior century. Thanks for sharing the info about the c/m and stretching my knowledge a bit!
My favorite purchase.
That's really fantastic Andy. The clarity of the strike of the counter marks, especially the obverse one, it's history, a great find!
007 ,your 8R sure looks better than at Stack's. And as for Zohar, if these are his impulse purchases....
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TalerUniverse.com is a curated numismatic project dedicated to the silver talers, crowns, and medals of the Habsburg Empire and the Holy Roman Empire, spanning the 16th–18th centuries. The collection emphasizes historically significant issues, rare mint varieties, and high-grade NGC/PCGS examples, presented with detailed historical context, scholarly references, and high-resolution photography. TalerUniverse aims to serve both as a private collection showcase and a growing reference resource for collectors, researchers, and students of early-modern European coinage.
Pruebas:
This year, I did not leave "sunny Florida" in time to review the Heritage World Coin auction, and just barely had enough time to view some coins in the Goldberg-Baldwin-Markov event. I did, though, write about the Stack's-Bowers auction.
British, Russian & Dutch Coins Lead Stack’s-Bowers Auction in NY
One reason why I revived this thread is that members of this forum here expressed so much enthusiasm about the NYINC of January 2016, yet were not evidently as excited by this years's event. Did anyone find this year's event to be disappointing?
This year, there were many important or otherwise desirable British and Latin American coins in the auctions and on the bourse floor. Did members of this forum find excellent coins at the NYINC in January 2017?
I'm not a fond of overpaying so I lost lot after lot that I was interested in.
However just when I thought all hope was lost I walked away this lovely piece. It's a gold scudo from Venezia. I've always loved the design of this coin but never found an example with a strike I was happy with until now