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High Grade and Problem free Red Copper is Hot

STEWARTBLAYNUMISSTEWARTBLAYNUMIS Posts: 2,697 ✭✭✭✭
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High grade and problem free
Red Indian cents And early date mint marked Lincoln cents are being sought by
new collectors. Old green holders especially !
I' m back !

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  • dpooledpoole Posts: 5,940 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Welcome back, Stewart. And welcome back Lincolns--the founding series for many of us!


    Here's a warning parable for coin collectors...



  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,419 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @STEWARTBLAYNUMIS said:

    !

    I' m back !

    Thanks for the warning!

    Andy Lustig

    Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.

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  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @STEWARTBLAYNUMIS said:
    High grade and problem free
    Red Indian cents And early date mint marked Lincoln cents are being sought by
    new collectors. Old green holders especially !
    I' m back !

    Are you about to sell a bunch? B)

    mark

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    Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
  • RonyahskiRonyahski Posts: 3,119 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I don't think so. Market is still downward.

    If anything is doing o.k. It is toned Lincolns.

    Some refer to overgraded slabs as Coffins. I like to think of them as Happy Coins.
  • STEWARTBLAYNUMISSTEWARTBLAYNUMIS Posts: 2,697 ✭✭✭✭

    Show me your 66 and 67 reds

  • rheddenrhedden Posts: 6,632 ✭✭✭✭✭

    There is a good reason to favor the old green holders for red copper, and it's not the perceived conservative grading. A red copper coin that has been in a holder for 20+ years and is still red, and without growing carbon spots, is likely to stay that way for a while.

  • bolivarshagnastybolivarshagnasty Posts: 7,353 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Pump and dump Stewie!

  • STEWARTBLAYNUMISSTEWARTBLAYNUMIS Posts: 2,697 ✭✭✭✭

    Lakesamman - I did wet my pants when I found out what you paid for it. If I remember correctly
    It was a double chisel.

  • LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Lakesammman said:
    I bought this in the budget section of FUN one year for about 50% of value -

    ummm. wow.
    .

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  • LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,461 ✭✭✭✭✭

    No chisel - I paid the dealers asking price. :wink:

    Nice to have you back active on the boards Stewart - you've been missed. :+1:

    "My friends who see my collection sometimes ask what something costs. I tell them and they are in awe at my stupidity." (Baccaruda, 12/03).I find it hard to believe that he (Trump) rushed to some hotel to meet girls of loose morals, although ours are undoubtedly the best in the world. (Putin 1/17) Gone but not forgotten. IGWT, Speedy, Bear, BigE, HokieFore, John Burns, Russ, TahoeDale, Dahlonega, Astrorat, Stewart Blay, Oldhoopster, Broadstruck, Ricko, Big Moose, Cardinal.
  • GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 17,948 ✭✭✭✭✭

    From 2008 ANA in Baltimore.......................The Red Copper King!!!!



  • LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,461 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I don't do red copper anymore, but would love to own Stewart's 1877 Indian Princess.

    Anyone have a picture of it??

    "My friends who see my collection sometimes ask what something costs. I tell them and they are in awe at my stupidity." (Baccaruda, 12/03).I find it hard to believe that he (Trump) rushed to some hotel to meet girls of loose morals, although ours are undoubtedly the best in the world. (Putin 1/17) Gone but not forgotten. IGWT, Speedy, Bear, BigE, HokieFore, John Burns, Russ, TahoeDale, Dahlonega, Astrorat, Stewart Blay, Oldhoopster, Broadstruck, Ricko, Big Moose, Cardinal.
  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Lakesammman...That is one, super beautiful, IHC......

    Welcome back Stewart.... Cheers, RickO

  • oih82w8oih82w8 Posts: 12,609 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 12, 2017 6:57AM

    @STEWARTBLAYNUMIS said:
    Show me your 66 and 67 reds

    I only have one 66RD Lincoln (or any cent prior to memorials);

    1938-S/S/S RPM FS-502 (FS-016.5) PCGS MS66RD

    photo 1938-SS 1C RPM FS-502 FS-016.5 PCGS MS66RD OBV.jpg
    photo 1938-SS 1C RPM FS-502 FS-016.5 PCGS MS66RD REV.jpg

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  • STEWARTBLAYNUMISSTEWARTBLAYNUMIS Posts: 2,697 ✭✭✭✭

    Coingallery.org
    Paul Houck who is the best
    Photographer of coins !

  • ashelandasheland Posts: 23,765 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Lakesammman said:
    I bought this in the budget section of FUN one year for about 50% of value - - Stewart nearly wet his pants when he saw it. PCGS 67R. :lol:

    Absolutely spectacular!!!

    I agree with the OGH. Any holder with at least 10 years is likely stable for red if stored properly.

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  • KAJ1KAJ1 Posts: 777 ✭✭✭

    I love that 1899.
    Here is mine in a OGH.

  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,313 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Lakesammman said:
    I bought this in the budget section of FUN one year for about 50% of value - - Stewart nearly wet his pants when he saw it. PCGS 67R. :lol:

    Yowser. Near perfection for an IC. Must have been the 2009-2011 era when great coins went too cheap.

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  • CoppercolorCoppercolor Posts: 1,475 ✭✭✭

    Super skin on that 1899

    I'd like my copper well done please!
  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,840 ✭✭✭✭✭

    You guys can enjoy the red copper. For me taking on the environmental risk of dealing with it in Florida is not worth it. I'm a Red-Brown and Brown copper guy.

    Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
  • pennyanniepennyannie Posts: 3,929 ✭✭✭

    Red copper is pretty to look at but mine never stayed that way. Now give me the brown toners

    Mark
    NGC registry V-Nickel proof #6!!!!
    working on proof shield nickels # 8 with a bullet!!!!

    RIP "BEAR"
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  • craZ4coinscraZ4coins Posts: 81 ✭

    I once had a top pop 1872 two center PCGS 66 Red in a 1st gen holder that had a CAC sticker and progressively was "turning" and spotting, including a fingerprint that progressively became more obvious over my years of ownership. I was happy to sell it at the Fun '14 auction, where it brought nearly $40K (a multiple of my cost).

    I hope it is no longer turning, but I doubt it.

    Lesson learned - I no longer seek to add red copper to my vast holdings.

  • tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,205 ✭✭✭✭✭

    You seem to have a LOT of issues....

    Early Dollar Set
  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,313 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 12, 2017 6:57PM

    @tradedollarnut said:
    You seem to have a LOT of issues....

    It happens.....when you have "vast" holdings. ;)

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  • STEWARTBLAYNUMISSTEWARTBLAYNUMIS Posts: 2,697 ✭✭✭✭

    None of my copper has ever turned odd colors or even mellowed. I use silica gel packets and they are kept in PCGS plastic boxes.

    Jaime - You have quite an assortment of different colors and substances on those Lincolns.
    I saw lacquer, coin care, dipping , and art color. Good strikes , I know you know that as you are a sharp guy.

    Stewart

  • LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,461 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I was paranoid about red copper - Kept them in intercept shield boxes with lots of copper "steel" wool nearby - figured it would react with anything bad in the environment before getting to the coins.

    If you have an eye like Stewarts and avoid problem coins up front, you will do fine in the long run re: stability.

    "My friends who see my collection sometimes ask what something costs. I tell them and they are in awe at my stupidity." (Baccaruda, 12/03).I find it hard to believe that he (Trump) rushed to some hotel to meet girls of loose morals, although ours are undoubtedly the best in the world. (Putin 1/17) Gone but not forgotten. IGWT, Speedy, Bear, BigE, HokieFore, John Burns, Russ, TahoeDale, Dahlonega, Astrorat, Stewart Blay, Oldhoopster, Broadstruck, Ricko, Big Moose, Cardinal.
  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @roadrunner said:

    @tradedollarnut said:
    You seem to have a LOT of issues....

    It happens.....when you have "vast" holdings. ;)

    Amen.

    mark

    Walker Proof Digital Album
    Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
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  • craZ4coinscraZ4coins Posts: 81 ✭

    Beauty is in the eye of the beholder and moderns don't float my boat.

    I would be afraid to put big $ into rare type red copper for fear that it will turn. Not really a fear, more of a reality. Is there any true unmolested red copper from the early days of the US mint?

  • jcpingjcping Posts: 2,649 ✭✭✭

    Will be Stewart bean coming soon?

    an SLQ and Ike dollars lover
  • cladkingcladking Posts: 28,743 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @AllCoinsRule said:

    Sigh, I guess they're all worthless, just like all my now high pop Lincoln Memorials ;)

    The greatest thing about the memorials is that they're fun to chase down.

    The greatest thing about collecting them is everyone thinks Gems are common.

    tempus fugit extra philosophiam.
  • STEWARTBLAYNUMISSTEWARTBLAYNUMIS Posts: 2,697 ✭✭✭✭

    craZ4coins - check out the apogee collection of early coppers coming up in
    March in Baltimore in StacksBowers
    If you want to see lots of unmolested early copper
    Remember, Copper is the most difficult coin to alter. Gold is the easiest
    Followed by nickel and silver.
    Memorial cents after 1982 are difficult
    To keep pristine because of less Copper content

  • ElmerFusterpuckElmerFusterpuck Posts: 4,801 ✭✭✭✭✭

    One of my registry sets is the 1934 thru 1958 wheat cents in 66 RD or better. I've had many of these coins for almost 2 decades and they haven't shown signs of toning. One thing with this set that I've noticed is the steady increase of pops of MS-66 RD dates that were once considered 'scarce'. The prices for the 1946 thru 1954 Philly dates have really taken a tumble over the past couple of years.

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  • PushkinPushkin Posts: 2,029 ✭✭✭
    edited January 13, 2017 3:40PM

    "Remember, Copper is the most difficult coin to alter."

    That's why only the best copper Docs have offshore bank accounts and Cayman Island homes.

    "If you don't know its history you don't know the coin." Young Pushkin

  • 2ndCharter2ndCharter Posts: 1,704 ✭✭✭✭✭

    check out the apogee collection of early coppers coming up in
    March in Baltimore in StacksBowers

    Stewart, can you provide more details? I've checked the S-B website - press releases, blogs, etc. - and can't find any mention of it. Thanks.

    Member ANA, SPMC, SCNA, FUN, CONECA

  • STEWARTBLAYNUMISSTEWARTBLAYNUMIS Posts: 2,697 ✭✭✭✭

    2nd Charter - excuse my typing
    It is the Pogue collection of coppers
    It is not yet posted but all the Copper coins were on display at FUN

  • 2ndCharter2ndCharter Posts: 1,704 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks, Stewart for clearing that up - Yes, I was also ogling the Pogue copper at the S-B table at FUN.

    Member ANA, SPMC, SCNA, FUN, CONECA

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