Imagine, Toners back in the day?
Hi Guy's, Imagine way back when coins were first collected. Probably, when someone either seen a toned coin (Referred to being tarnished back then) or possessed one? Assuming how they would treat it? Either, not even look at or selling at the most ridiculous cheapest price just to get rid of. Or maybe, even giving the coin away for free! Think about it. Say someone had a Morgan CC Dollar that was really rare and expensive then selling it for common coin money. This is what was likely done to these poor misfit toned coins? I'm pretty sure. This falls into the category of, " If we only knew then what we know now"!-joey
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Probably just a quick dip and then full price.
Great Info. I didn't realize! What years are we talking about with those names you posted? Because whatever the year in which those collectors kept toners, I'm talking way before them.
"Jesus died for you and for me, Thank you,Jesus"!!!
--- If it should happen I die and leave this world and you want to remember me. Please only remember my opening Sig Line.What if the dip doesn't remove all the tone?
"Jesus died for you and for me, Thank you,Jesus"!!!
--- If it should happen I die and leave this world and you want to remember me. Please only remember my opening Sig Line.Weren't many CC dollars that were pretty toned sold at a discount during the GSA sale? Any GSA expert out there?
rainbowroosie April 1, 2003
Yes. Most were put in the lesser soft packs.
The first person in the world (We may never know who) who thought to save these tarnished unwanted coins might of been the same person to wonder, " Hey, perhaps I should bottle clean and pure water and sell it?"
Talk about Good Decisions, huh?
"Jesus died for you and for me, Thank you,Jesus"!!!
--- If it should happen I die and leave this world and you want to remember me. Please only remember my opening Sig Line.Back when I started collecting in 1960s "the experts," or at least the people who wrote for the numismatic magazines, advised collectors to stay away from darkly toned coins. Their reasoning was that toning covered up a lot of sins, including wear. Those who collected toned coins were definitely not in "the main stream."
This advice applied mostly to silver. Dipped and shined up copper coins have never gotten much respect and gold was considered to be "inert" and not really subject to toning. Gold coins with copper spots were "a problem."
Today toning is all the rage, and some collectors pay huge premiums for it. There are now more toned coins on the market than there were "in the good old days," and if you catch a bit of cynicism in that statement, it was fully intended.
Most GSA toners were not put in soft packs, but were in the hard packs and sold in the mixed category. Sold off as "damaged" for $15
Rainbow Stars
Bill I know you are not a big toning fan , morgans in particular. When I got back into coins again you and I would talk sometimes at Westwood or Nashua about this. Not all toned coins on the market today are enhanced as you hint. As a man who has seen plenty of coins in your day, you must know this to be true. You can ,i'm sure tell the difference. I think a almost twenty year plus run on toned monsters exceeds a fad in collecting. There are dealers and collectors who have been in this type market for much longer than that. Andy Kimmel, the deceased Mike Defalco, to name just a few. Educate ones self and learn what to look for. JMO
Rainbow Stars
Toners are okay. I just don't like high toner prices, and I've got no use for some the neon stuff that has been given the "shake and bake" treatment.
By the way, the educate comment was certainly not intended for you. It was for those who choose to enter this area of collecting. The same advice I ,and I'm sure you ,would give anyone looking to collect any series of coins.
Rainbow Stars
I wish I had never put some of my blast white coins in folders and albums. New folders and albums are the worst, and unpredictable. Pre-storage acetone rinse, baby. But I'm not certain an acetone rinse can always guard against folder or album out-gassing.
Tarnish (yes, tarnish is what it is, toning is PC for environmental damage) has not always been prized.... premiums paid for tarnish today is what fuels the coin doctors - and as a result, we have AT coins in slabs and elsewhere. Sorry, I refuse to use the politically correct term... Poor storage also promotes tarnish... the more exposure to available contaminants, the more tarnish. Coins were dipped/cleaned in the past.... coin shops displayed bright shiny coins in counter displays. I do not prefer tarnished coins...that is well known here. I have, in years past, conducted extensive experiments with tarnishing coins.... there are some methods (and likely now even better one's) that will allow a coin to pass even the most rigorous visual inspection and be declared NT. No, non of my experiments ever left my possession... I do not sell coins. I am constantly amazed at this 'fad' that pays unbelievable premiums for surface damaged coins.....Might as well buy cheap ones and do it yourself....Cheers, RickO