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Proof Morgan Dollars and an HK-222a.--- Update w/grade.

keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
Although I don't own many Morgan Dollars it is hard to argue their beauty and importance to the Hobby of Kings as practiced by us in the U.S.A. Without that singular coin series I suppose a large portion of collecting/collectors would vanish. I recall a member once stating that every true collector should own a Proof Morgan, and while I don't and probably never will I think he was correct.



I recently mailed my first So Called Dollar to PCGS for grading, an HK-222a low relief in aluminum from the WCE of 1892-3. I'll leave it to the graders to determine if it's a Proof strike or just a hammered MS, but it's the closest I'll come to a Proof Morgan.



With that rambling in mind, would it be possible for members who have Proof Morgan Dollars to do a date run by pictures?? I think it would be inspiring.



Thanks in advance.



Al H.

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  • TopographicOceansTopographicOceans Posts: 6,535 ✭✭✭✭
    Good luck with your SCD


    Another interesting thing about Morgan's is the number of proof like strikes. I don't have a proof, but this is the next best thing.


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  • blu62vetteblu62vette Posts: 11,952 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I don't have any proofs, just lots of PL/DMPL ones. The proofs are indeed quite attractive. I know someday I will get the bug for one.



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  • YorkshiremanYorkshireman Posts: 4,585 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I, too, love the look of Proof Morgan dollars. These are amazingly beautiful coins.
    I do not own one. Nor do I own a DMPL.

    I hope to include one or the other in my Box of 20 one day.
    Yorkshireman,Obsessed collector of round, metallic pieces of history.Hunting for Latin American colonial portraits plus cool US & British coins.
  • USMarine6USMarine6 Posts: 1,957 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Date run will be tough but Ive got the 83 taken care of

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  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,896 ✭✭✭✭✭
    You beat me to it, U.S.Marine6, but here is my only Proof Morgan Dollar, an 1883 in Proof.




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    Do I think that the Morgan Dollar is the most beautiful U.S. coin? No, far from it.


    Do I think that every series collector should have at least one Proof Morgan Dollar? No. It's history is interesting, but you don't need a Proof to represent that story.


    Morgan Dollars are okay, but I think that nice Bust Dollars are more attrative.
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  • StuartStuart Posts: 9,831 ✭✭✭✭✭

    1898 PCGS Proof-62 Cameo - Toned Morgan Dollar


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    Stuart

    Collect 18th & 19th Century US Type Coins, Silver Dollars, $20 Gold Double Eagles and World Crowns & Talers with High Eye Appeal

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  • LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: FadeToBlack

    Not sure I'll ever own a CAM/DCAM Morgan, as much as I'd like to own one. Here's my best (reflectivity/cameo-wise) DMPL for you though;




    nice coin and images.



    nice to see straight-up images for a change.



    and quality ones at that.

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  • Timbuk3Timbuk3 Posts: 11,658 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thanks for sharing !!! :-)
    Timbuk3
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  • BIGAL2749BIGAL2749 Posts: 742 ✭✭✭✭




    Thanks guys for posting the images.



    The quality of the images is also outstanding.



    That 1890 is off the chart!
  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Well, the order shipped yesterday and was actually posted on Monday, so they graded the coins in seven days which is quick and remarkable. Kudos to the PCGS grading room.



    As for the medal itself, they judged it to be a Proof and assigned the grade as PR65DC. I am encouraged by that since it was what I "saw" it should be. I already have other SC$'s that I'm reviewing for a follow-up.



    Again, thanks for speed, PCGS!!image
  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,917 ✭✭✭✭✭
    congrats

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  • HighReliefHighRelief Posts: 3,722 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Make sure you post some pictures if this DCAM Monster Medal when you get her back, looking forward to viewing it.
  • Hello,

    I know how were sold the PROOF SETS begining in 1936 but I never saw an original packaging for the pré-1936 PROOF coins as the Morgan $.

    Did the collectors have to purchace the Proof Morgan dollars direct from the Mint bulding ?
    How much they were sold and did someone of this forum already see an original packaging made for this old proof coins ?

    Thanks Thierry (from FRANCE so, sorry for bad english speaking)

  • coindeucecoindeuce Posts: 13,496 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 10, 2016 1:46PM

    I've owned no less than 3 1878 Proof Morgans - down to one now(8TF PCGS PR-63). Will try to retrieve it from the SDB just for you Keets.
    Wish I still had my NGC PF66 ULTRA CAM HK-222 - she was a beauty to behold.

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  • Wabbit2313Wabbit2313 Posts: 7,268 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @flancoin said:
    Hello,

    I know how were sold the PROOF SETS begining in 1936 but I never saw an original packaging for the pré-1936 PROOF coins as the Morgan $.

    Did the collectors have to purchace the Proof Morgan dollars direct from the Mint bulding ?
    How much they were sold and did someone of this forum already see an original packaging made for this old proof coins ?

    Thanks Thierry (from FRANCE so, sorry for bad english speaking)

    "")

    That 1936 proof set is Sweet! What is it doing all the way over in France? Your English is fine!

  • rheddenrhedden Posts: 6,632 ✭✭✭✭✭
  • RogerBRogerB Posts: 8,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The 1936 box posted by 'flancoin' is an image from Goldberg's Auctions: "1936 box Goldberg -187106." It is not an original box but one used for private repackaging. The dimensions and other details are incorrect.

  • stealerstealer Posts: 4,039 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November 9, 2016 3:26PM

    I acquired this one raw as an unattributed proof. I'm thankful for the opportunity, otherwise I don't think that I would've ever shelled out the money to buy a graded one.

  • KirbyKirby Posts: 50 ✭✭✭


    Here's mine.

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Thierry...Welcome aboard, do you collect U.S. coins?

    Some awesome proof Morgans in this thread.... Cheers, RickO

  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
  • gonzergonzer Posts: 3,056 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That IS a looker Keets. Congrats! So many superb Morgans here.

  • LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,468 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Stealer, you're amazing! :+1:

    "My friends who see my collection sometimes ask what something costs. I tell them and they are in awe at my stupidity." (Baccaruda, 12/03).I find it hard to believe that he (Trump) rushed to some hotel to meet girls of loose morals, although ours are undoubtedly the best in the world. (Putin 1/17) Gone but not forgotten. IGWT, Speedy, Bear, BigE, HokieFore, John Burns, Russ, TahoeDale, Dahlonega, Astrorat, Stewart Blay, Oldhoopster, Broadstruck, Ricko, Big Moose, Cardinal.
  • SCDHunterSCDHunter Posts: 686 ✭✭✭

    Outstanding piece Keets. Congratulations.

    I always enjoy reading your posts on SCDs.

    I have seen many posts regarding long turnaround times. Do you feel that the fast processing is an anomaly or is there a separate queue for SCDs?

  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭

    without knowing I can only speculate --- I would suppose that there aren't many grading the Exonumia that PCGS is now grading/authenticating. also, the authentication process is probably what takes up time. the few orders I have submitted for SC$'s have been done in a timely fashion, so maybe some of the lag for others is due to the service level.

  • Wabbit2313Wabbit2313 Posts: 7,268 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Stealer. Sweet! That baby is undergraded and is suffering the same fate as many of mine with the recent grading.

  • @Roger B & ricko
    Thanks for your information & welcome. I'm a little desappointed to read that the 1936 proof box isn't the one sold with the coins by the Mint. Is anybody know how they were sold ? I can't imagine they were given coin by coin , from hand to hand at the US Mint's desk ! I loved this idea that this box was the original one and protected this 1936 PROOF set from human manipilation till we decide to open it. As if the time was stopped inside this box since 1936.
    I collect French, English and US coins. Proof Morgans are of my favorite coins, I post a coin that is for me the "french sister" of the Morgan: the Cérès.
    Thierry ( http://flancoin.wixsite.com/gold-coins ) .

  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭

    prior to 1950 the Mint sold Proof coins "on demand" either at the Mint or through the mail. that means that a buyer could purchase them individually, several at once or an entire set. to date, no one has been able to substantiate any uniform packaging used by the Mint prior to 1950.

    the box/tape above dated "1936" looks similar in color and shape to what was used from 1950-1955 but the dimensions aren't the same.

  • @keets
    Many thanks fore this usefull informations

    . I'm very glad have posted my question in this US forum. You've got in your country a great coinage history, specially end XIX & early XX century like the last coin I've bought :

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