2016 30th Anniversary American Silver Eagle Proof (16EA)

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  • BackroadJunkie
    BackroadJunkie Posts: 3,745 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Originally posted by: Twobitcollector
    This is the best I could do with the edge.
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    Not bad, at least you can see the lettering. The mint capsule is less than desirable for an edge lettered coin...

    And props for actually taking it out of the capsule. (I'm still not going to to that. image )

  • BackroadJunkie
    BackroadJunkie Posts: 3,745 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Sales update:
    DateDescNumber soldNet Increase
    9/18/20162016 AM EAGLE SILVER PROOF 1 OZ (16EA)322,317322,317
    9/25/20162016 AM EAGLE SILVER PROOF 1 OZ (16EA)36310340,786
    10/2/20162016 AM EAGLE SILVER PROOF 1 OZ (16EA)38749424,391
    In other news, apparently the counterfeiters weren't aware that the 2016-30th anniversary ASE would have a smooth edge. Coin World is reporting of fake 2016 ASE proofs with a reeded edge...

    Coin World: So you think that American Eagle silver dollar from the flea market is a bargain?

    Or maybe they just didn't care... image
  • BackroadJunkie
    BackroadJunkie Posts: 3,745 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Hmmm.... Latest mint numbers:

    DateDescNumber soldNet Increase
    9/18/20162016 AM EAGLE SILVER PROOF 1 OZ (16EA)322,317322,317
    9/25/20162016 AM EAGLE SILVER PROOF 1 OZ (16EA)36310340,786
    10/2/20162016 AM EAGLE SILVER PROOF 1 OZ (16EA)38749424,391
    10/9/20162016 AM EAGLE SILVER PROOF 1 OZ (16EA)41245924,965
    10/16/20162016 AM EAGLE SILVER PROOF 1 OZ (16EA)42363911,180
    10/23/20162016 AM EAGLE SILVER PROOF 1 OZ (16EA)424289650

    I suspect sales will pick up for Christmas, but along with the Reagan C&C set, we're only at 450K. Sales haven't been that low for the ASE proof since the '90's...

  • COCollector
    COCollector Posts: 1,428 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 28, 2016 2:13PM
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    Probably won't break 500,000 for the Proof. I'm a happy camper!

    Release date is still TBD for the Uncirculated (Burnished) coin. 1st week of December at the earliest? Actually, I'm hoping sales will be cancelled -- except for those of us in the "Product Enrollment" program... an instant high-priced collectible!

    http://catalog.usmint.gov/american-eagle-silver-one-ounce-uncirculated-coin-enrollment-MT.html?cgid=product-enrollments-american-eagle-coins#start=1

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  • TwoSides2aCoin
    TwoSides2aCoin Posts: 45,219 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    It will always be worth One Dollar, unless I'm mistaken.

  • edgar
    edgar Posts: 886 ✭✭✭✭
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    Dec
    01
    2016
    http://catalog.usmint.gov/american-eagle-2016-one-ounce-silver-uncirculated-coin-16EG.html?cgid=product-schedule

    (l8-)>>

  • BackroadJunkie
    BackroadJunkie Posts: 3,745 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Hi Edgar,

    I started a stand-alone ASE Uncirc thread...

    (You posted at 8:30 Eastern Time. The mint site always seems to be updated last night/early morning. I wonder who does it and where they're located. I assume it's out of Texas, but I'm beginning to wonder...)

  • ricko
    ricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I am very happy with mine....I do believe it would grade 70.... A really nice coin. Cheers, RickO

  • BigA
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    @COCollector said:
    Probably won't break 500,000 for the Proof. I'm a happy camper!

    I would think continued sales (though definitely slowing to a crawl) , the LE proof set and the Congratulations set would push it past the 500k mark

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  • Twobitcollector
    Twobitcollector Posts: 4,755 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @BackroadJunkie said:
    Originally posted by: Twobitcollector
    This is the best I could do with the edge.

    Not bad, at least you can see the lettering. The mint capsule is less than desirable for an edge lettered coin...

    And props for actually taking it out of the capsule. (I'm still not going to to that. )

    Yes this is what I use and it works very well

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  • BackroadJunkie
    BackroadJunkie Posts: 3,745 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @Twobitcollector said:
    Yes this is what I use and it works very well!

    Cool. I can't remember seeing a folding utility knife before. Would I be out of line suggesting a new blade? ;)

  • BackroadJunkie
    BackroadJunkie Posts: 3,745 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Numbers have rebounded a bit. I need to look at previous years to compare sales...

    DateDescriptionNumber SoldNet IncreaseReagan C&C salesTotal Proof Sales
    9/18/20162016 AM EAGLE SILVER PROOF 1 OZ (16EA)322,317322,317
    9/25/20162016 AM EAGLE SILVER PROOF 1 OZ (16EA)36310340,786
    10/2/20162016 AM EAGLE SILVER PROOF 1 OZ (16EA)38749424,391
    10/9/20162016 AM EAGLE SILVER PROOF 1 OZ (16EA)41245924,965
    10/16/20162016 AM EAGLE SILVER PROOF 1 OZ (16EA)42363911,18024,893448,532
    10/23/20162016 AM EAGLE SILVER PROOF 1 OZ (16EA)42428965028,083452,372
    10/30/20162016 AM EAGLE SILVER PROOF 1 OZ (16EA)43584711,55832,207468,054
  • Twobitcollector
    Twobitcollector Posts: 4,755 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @BackroadJunkie said:

    @Twobitcollector said:
    Yes this is what I use and it works very well!

    Cool. I can't remember seeing a folding utility knife before. Would I be out of line suggesting a new blade? ;)

    I was thinking the same thing as I took the photo. I do have a pack of them, so today will be the big day LOL

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  • BackroadJunkie
    BackroadJunkie Posts: 3,745 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    New numbers from the mint...

    DateDescriptionNumber SoldNet IncreaseReagan C&C salesTotal Proof Sales
    10/16/20162016 AM EAGLE SILVER PROOF 1 OZ (16EA)42363911,18024,893448,532
    10/23/20162016 AM EAGLE SILVER PROOF 1 OZ (16EA)42428965028,083452,372
    10/30/20162016 AM EAGLE SILVER PROOF 1 OZ (16EA)43584711,55832,207468,054
    11/6/20162016 AM EAGLE SILVER PROOF 1 OZ (16EA)4409385,09134,372475,310

    @BackroadJunkie said:
    Numbers have rebounded a bit. I need to look at previous years to compare sales...

    And I did. (Wasting time while backing up my systems after patch Tuesday...) Numbers do not include the proof in other sets. Sales are actually ahead of the last two years...

    2014 Proof ASE (ES1)2015 Proof ASE (ES6)2016 Proof ASE (16EA)
    DateNumber SoldDateNumber SoldDateNumber Sold
    1/26/2014307,3781/4/2015262,3779/18/2016322,317
    2/2/2014327,9181/11/2015264,3509/25/2016363103
    2/9/2014355,1071/18/2015284,62510/2/2016387494
    2/16/2014370,3861/25/2015288,48610/9/2016412459
    2/23/2014374,6082/1/2015304,08410/16/2016423639
    3/2/2014365,1882/8/2015300,64510/23/2016424289
    3/9/2014386,0452/15/2015304,43410/30/2016435847
    3/16/2014410,1032/22/2015309,82411/6/2016440938

    The 2014 went on to sell 894,614. the 2015 sold 699,623. Both ended sales 12/30/15 because of the FAST Act.

  • BackroadJunkie
    BackroadJunkie Posts: 3,745 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Weekly Sales

    Weekly sales data will be posted here. A link to this post is in the original (first) post of this thread.

    All 2016 American Eagle Silver Proof Products
    DateProof (16EA)Net IncreaseReagan C&C (16PA)LE Silver Proof (16RC)Congratulations Set (16RC)Total Proof Sales
    9/18/2016322,317322,317n/an/an/a322,317
    9/25/2016363,10340,786n/an/an/a363,103
    10/2/2016387,49424,391(First day
    sales - 21,511)    		n/an/a387,494
    10/9/2016412,45924,965n/an/a412,459
    10/16/2016423,63911,18024,893n/an/a448,532
    10/23/2016424,28965028,083n/an/a452,372
    10/30/2016435,84711,55832,207n/an/a468,054
    11/6/2016440,9385,09134,372n/an/a475,310
    11/13/2016451,64110,70335,011n/an/a486,652
    11/20/2016461,0539,41236,175n/an/a497,228
    11/27/2016473,19312,14036,94619,266On sale Nov 29529,405
  • BackroadJunkie
    BackroadJunkie Posts: 3,745 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 3, 2016 12:24PM
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    For your amusement (or maybe mine)... Sales by week for 2014, 2015 and 2016.

    2014 Proof ASE (ES1)2015 Proof ASE (ES6)2016 Proof ASE (16EA)
    DateNumber SoldDateNumber SoldDateNumber Sold
    1/26/2014307,3781/4/2015262,3779/18/2016322,317
    2/2/2014327,9181/11/2015264,3509/25/2016363,103
    2/9/2014355,1071/18/2015284,62510/2/2016387,494
    2/16/2014370,3861/25/2015288,48610/9/2016412,459
    2/23/2014374,6082/1/2015304,08410/16/2016423,639
    3/2/2014365,1882/8/2015300,64510/23/2016424,289
    3/9/2014386,0452/15/2015304,43410/30/2016435,847
    3/16/2014410,1032/22/2015309,82411/6/2016440,938
    3/23/2014424,0413/1/2015315,37811/13/2016451,641
    3/30/2014443,1283/8/2015313,89511/20/2016461,053
    4/6/2014451,3813/15/2015323,78211/27/2016473,193

    Weekly sales are comparable with 2014, however the 2014 went on to sell 894,614 and the 2015 sold 699,623. Both were taken off-sale on Dec 30, 2015.

    If you ignore 2009, the 1995-W and the various reverse proofs, the lowest mintage years (for proofs) are:

    2012-S: 281,792
    1994: 372,168
    1993: 405,913
    1995: 407,822
    1997: 440,315
    1998: 450,728
    1996: 498,293
    1992: 498,543
    1991: 511,924
    1999: 549,330
    1988: 557,370

    2016 (when you include the other three sets the proof is in), won't even crack the top 10...

  • Schmitz7
    Schmitz7 Posts: 782 ✭✭✭
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    You are forgetting the 2012-s proof silver eagle. It is the second lowest mintage right after the 1995-w. It was only available in the Making American History set and the 2-coin SanFrancisco anniversary set.

  • Schmitz7
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    2012-s mintage was 281,792 and you can often pick them up for under $50 each. I think they are a much better deal.

  • ricko
    ricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Interesting figures.... I did not realize the 2012S was that low. Cheers, RickO

  • BackroadJunkie
    BackroadJunkie Posts: 3,745 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 3, 2016 12:31PM
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    @Schmitz7 said:
    You are forgetting the 2012-s proof silver eagle. It is the second lowest mintage right after the 1995-w. It was only available in the Making American History set and the 2-coin SanFrancisco anniversary set.

    You're right. That coin was dissed after it was assumed by collectors that it would be exclusive to the SF set, but was then included in the American History set, yet still retains the lowest regular ASE proof issued after the 95-W. It was the impetus for the "Exclusive to this set" wording now used by the mint.

    I actually bought a few extra in 2012 after realizing this. Maybe some day they'll appreciate in value...

  • tychojoe
    tychojoe Posts: 1,336 ✭✭✭
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    @2manycoins2fewfunds said:

    Probably won't happen but lots of ways to screw up 3 part collar edge lettering...

    A-B positions?

    3 plain collars?

    2 collars with lettering?

    Chipped letters on collar= missing letters

    Reeded edge?

    Have any edge-error reports surfaced? As @2manycoins2fewfunds said, unlikely, but where there's multiple collar parts, esp. the 4 o'clock to 8 o'clock collar stamping the edge lettering, there's a way. CHECK YOUR 2016 ASE -S PROOF AND -W BU EDGE LETTERING EVERYBODY! :)

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