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Newp $1 Gold Type-1 -Guess the grade-

ashelandasheland Posts: 24,466 ✭✭✭✭✭

I just picked this up on Saturday, I really like this little gal! :love:
I've been wanting a rattler, too, so this was a great pick-up all around. :)

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    TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 45,035 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nice. Guessing MS 63
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    csdotcsdot Posts: 725 ✭✭✭✭
    Hard to tell on those little coins, but might even grade 64 today. Old holder could be a 63.
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    DNADaveDNADave Posts: 7,346 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Very nice. I really like the deep color on that one.

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    panexpoguypanexpoguy Posts: 1,239 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I agree. 63 then and 64 now?

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    ashelandasheland Posts: 24,466 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Close so far. :) I'll post the grade in a few hours and give others a chance to play.
    I really like the color on this one!

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    RodebaughRodebaugh Posts: 304 ✭✭✭

    Great little type coin. I'm in the 63 crowd.

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    mvs7mvs7 Posts: 1,662 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'll go with 63 also.

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    liefgoldliefgold Posts: 1,770 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I see a mark just above the 8 that would make it a 63.

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    BustCudsBustCuds Posts: 1,096 ✭✭✭

    Nice original color, could see her in a 64 holder.
    Congratulations.

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    Wabbit2313Wabbit2313 Posts: 7,268 ✭✭✭✭✭

    What a nice coin. If it's not a 65, it should be!

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    TommyTypeTommyType Posts: 4,586 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm in the 64 boat. Fields are fantastic....but Strike might keep it from going much higher(?)

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    jwittenjwitten Posts: 5,325 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'll be the odd man out and say 62

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    JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Lovely little gal! Congrat's!!!

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    USMarine6USMarine6 Posts: 2,093 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks almost gem but not quite 64

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    savoyspecialsavoyspecial Posts: 7,366 ✭✭✭✭

    62

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    DollarAfterDollarDollarAfterDollar Posts: 3,217 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Scratches in right obv field suggest MS 63 but hair detail seems weak. Just the picture?

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    Type2Type2 Posts: 13,985 ✭✭✭✭✭

    MS65



    Hoard the keys.
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    DancingFireDancingFire Posts: 311 ✭✭✭

    MS63

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    ashelandasheland Posts: 24,466 ✭✭✭✭✭

    They were very tight in the 80's:

    My opinion is that it would 63 at very least, possibly 64...
    Thanks everyone for the compliments and guesses! :)

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    BIGAL2749BIGAL2749 Posts: 742 ✭✭✭✭

    From what I can see it's a beautiful coin with great luster and color and pre slabbing days I'd buy if price were right. I can show you 4-5 very similar and they graded 62 (still have them) which I thought was on the low side then.
    I think you get a 63 easily enough and probably get a sticker but the marks on the right field and the fact there're on the obverse makes it very hard to get a 4. TPG don't seem to accept visible marks on small coins pass 63.

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    TopographicOceansTopographicOceans Posts: 6,535 ✭✭✭✭
    edited October 24, 2016 8:10PM

    In today's world - MS 64

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    TomBTomB Posts: 22,982 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It looks to have beautiful, rolling luster and great color. Perhaps the MS62 grade was given due to what appear to be hairlines behind the portrait?

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    62?... Wow.. I would have said 63, maybe 64.... Cheers, RickO

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    thebeavthebeav Posts: 4,104 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Boy, definitely under graded.
    I always like the type ones. They look like tiny twenties......

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    ashelandasheland Posts: 24,466 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It has hairlines, but VERY minute. Very few bag marks, too.
    It's undergraded no doubt.

    I like her though and she was very reasonably priced given the 62 grade and getting her back of greysheet bid!

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    BillJonesBillJones Posts: 35,810 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 25, 2016 8:43AM

    The strike appears to be a little weak for a Type 1, so I'm going with MS-63. I think it would make MS-63 today.

    If you want to compare notes, this 1850 gold dollar is graded MS-62.

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    stevebensteveben Posts: 4,666 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 25, 2016 9:08AM

    my first thought when i saw the photos was au58. sorry. it's hard to grade from photos. especially gold. cool coin though!

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    ashelandasheland Posts: 24,466 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I like that 1850!

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    BillJonesBillJones Posts: 35,810 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @steveben said:
    my first thought when i saw the photos was au58. sorry. it's hard to grade from photos. especially gold. cool coin though!

    The trouble is the photo does not show the hair detail over her forehead and behind the ear. On a Philadelphia Mint coin that is usually strong. This one is weak in the date area and corresponding areas of the obverse.

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    roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,374 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 25, 2016 10:26AM

    Strike on these is probably less important than luster and marks. In that regards the 1849 looks 1-2 points nicer than the 1850 with better luster and far fewer marks. I would have guessed the rattler grade was 62 or 63.

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    stevebensteveben Posts: 4,666 ✭✭✭✭✭

    this is my favorite type.

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