What are you thoughts on this Capped Bust Half?

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DIMEMAN
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It is a 1813 O-101 50/UNI PCGS45. Like or dislike and any comments.

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  • Type2
    Type2 Posts: 13,985 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I don't like the dark brown that is just me dumb Type2, A lot of detail on it.



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  • sadysta1
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    I think it's not a good picture. I'm sure it looks better in person
  • Walkerfan
    Walkerfan Posts: 10,392 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    If you like cameo circs, then it's nice, but I am not a fan of those.

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  • ms70
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    I'm suspicious of the green over the brown surfaces. That looks unusual and not like toning, at least judging from the pic.

  • Jinx86
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    The green is suspect, I would really like to see it in hand.

    I do like XF45 Bust Halves with a bit of luster in the protected areas.

  • DIMEMAN
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    @ms70 said:
    I'm suspicious of the green over the brown surfaces. That looks unusual and not like toning, at least judging from the pic.

    Are you thinking PVC or something else?

  • Type2
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    Every time I see a bust coin with that wear pattern it looks like Vitiligo, It has some green as well will that come off or is it toning?



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  • DIMEMAN
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    @Type2 said:
    Every time I see a bust coin with that wear pattern it looks like Vitiligo, It has some green as well will that come off or is it toning?

    I don't know......I don't have the coin in hand.

  • BillJones
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    If that is how the coin really looks, it's not my thing. I have never cared for that two tone look with what appears to be a lighter, rubbed look on the high points.

    I can think of two ways this look might happen. The piece was circulation and put away with a lot of other coins. Sometime during that storage it got lose and got a tiny bit more wear that rubbed off a very thin layer toning. The other way is that the coin is dipped, not properly rinsed, and placed in an envelope, perhaps even while still wet. The areas that touch the envelope don't tone or have a lighter color while the rest of coins tones darkly.

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  • Koinicker
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    You can find a better example Jon!

  • MFH
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    Jon...Hate it... Save your money for FUN ... And, my birthday dinner !! Lol

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  • DIMEMAN
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    @MFH said:
    Jon...Hate it... Save your money for FUN ... And, my birthday dinner !! Lol

    Mike....you are such a hoot! Don't worry you will get your Birthday dinner! I know how special # 100 is. ;)

  • kaz
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    Personally, I'm not into that look. (blotchy dark areas on the portrait)

  • MFH
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    @DIMEMAN said:

    @MFH said:
    Jon...Hate it... Save your money for FUN ... And, my birthday dinner !! Lol

    Mike....you are such a hoot! Don't worry you will get your Birthday dinner! I know how special # 100 is. ;)

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  • ms70
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    edited October 23, 2016 1:11PM
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    @DIMEMAN said:

    @ms70 said:
    I'm suspicious of the green over the brown surfaces. That looks unusual and not like toning, at least judging from the pic.

    Are you thinking PVC or something else?

    That's what I was wondering, but it's hard to tell without it in hand. I don't recall ever seeing toning over surfaces that were already dark.

  • golden
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    Not a fan at all!

  • BryceM
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    I can't see a single reason to want to own that coin (if it looks like the photo), but I'm a type guy. Unless it's some obscure Overton variety, circulated CBH coins aren't rare. I'm sure you can do better.
  • amwldcoin
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    Looks "processed" to me

  • SkyMan
    SkyMan Posts: 9,605 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Not my cup of tea...

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    @BillJones said:
    I have never cared for that two tone
    I can think of two ways this look might happen. The piece was circulation and put away with a lot of other coins. Sometime during that storage it got lose and got a tiny bit more wear that rubbed off a very thin layer toning. The other way is that the coin is dipped, not properly rinsed, and placed in an envelope, perhaps even while still wet. The areas that touch the envelope don't tone or have a lighter color while the rest of coins tones darkly.


    That type of two tone look is the result of long term pvc damage, In my opinion. It is a common look to coins that spent years in plasticized flips that eventually ate away the high points of the coin. It is a look that I always pass on, even if straight graded. Active pvc may have been removed, but I don't like the look.

    merse

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    No idea why the quoted font did that in post above.....

    merse

  • DIMEMAN
    DIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Well, I ask for and got a lot of honest opinions. I thank everyone for that. Looks like I am about the only one who likes this coin. It is not mine and probably never will be, but I liked it for the originality look of it. Not the normal bright silver half.

  • lkeigwin
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    I like the variety. I'm not crazy about the look but the surfaces seem nice.
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  • Kyle
    Kyle Posts: 1,822 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Not my cup of tea.

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  • BillJones
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    @DIMEMAN said:
    Well, I ask for and got a lot of honest opinions. I thank everyone for that. Looks like I am about the only one who likes this coin. It is not mine and probably never will be, but I liked it for the originality look of it. Not the normal bright silver half.

    I am not so sure that that look is original. I'd have see it in person to render an opinion.

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  • VanHalen
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    Do not care for it. Dark bordering on ED.

  • roadrunner
    roadrunner Posts: 28,374 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 23, 2016 8:20PM
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    A cross between Rocky Raccoon and Bat Girl.

    Not a fan based on the photos presented.

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  • oih82w8
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    I like the variety, but not this one.

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  • mannie gray
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    I would pass.
  • Treashunt
    Treashunt Posts: 6,748 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    nice variety, ugly coin

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