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I want to know what is going on at PCGS and how they plan to correct it.

I want to know what is going on at PCGS and how they plan to correct it.
I know they can’t make coin quality problems go away, but PCGS is slowing down and stagnating the collectors and that isn’t good for anyone.

Example:

For the 2014 pennies PCGS has graded 1033.
For the 2015 pennies PCGS has graded 803.
For the 2016 pennies PCGS has graded 268.

We are 4/5 through the 2016 year and they have only graded about ¼ of the normal amount.
Have people stopped collecting pennies?
Have the dealers stopped submitting pennies?

Comments

  • BoosibriBoosibri Posts: 12,411 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 18, 2016 4:16AM

    How is this PCGS problem to solve? They grade what is sent in to them.

    To be curious, I hope you are quoting 2014 pennies graded in the calendar year 2014, not the cumulative amount of pennies graded since 2014. How you would have at hand the number of pennies graded in 2014 is beyond me.

  • DNADaveDNADave Posts: 7,308 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @rogerdiehl said:
    I want to know what is going on at PCGS and how they plan to correct it.

    ....and who are you?

  • dbtunrdbtunr Posts: 614 ✭✭✭
    edited October 18, 2016 5:38AM

    Volumes at PCGS are up 40% from last year and are at RECORD coin volumes. They are not slowing down, they are in fact increasing. To pull out one coin type and use that as an example is just....well I can't say that word here.

    coin volumes from the latest annual report filed with the SEC for fiscal years ending in June:

    2016 2.371M
    2015 2.067M
    2014 2.075M

    Keep in mind, fiscal 2016 only had 6 months of their new Modern initiative to capture market share and they signed a deal with the Chinese Mint in July to grade about 200,000 coins/qtr for the next five years.

  • AblinkyAblinky Posts: 628 ✭✭✭

    Stagnating collectors? I've never met a collector who collects certified modern Lincoln cents, and on top of that after just checking prices from a modern coin dealer, PR-70's from 2016 are no more expensive than 2015's so what's the problem?

    Andrew Blinkiewicz-Heritage

  • LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,461 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I had no idea they were worth submitting.

    If you believe the price guides, the mint is putting out some shoddy pennies! :smirk:

    "My friends who see my collection sometimes ask what something costs. I tell them and they are in awe at my stupidity." (Baccaruda, 12/03).I find it hard to believe that he (Trump) rushed to some hotel to meet girls of loose morals, although ours are undoubtedly the best in the world. (Putin 1/17) Gone but not forgotten. IGWT, Speedy, Bear, BigE, HokieFore, John Burns, Russ, TahoeDale, Dahlonega, Astrorat, Stewart Blay, Oldhoopster, Broadstruck, Ricko, Big Moose, Cardinal.
  • MrHalfDimeMrHalfDime Posts: 3,440 ✭✭✭✭

    "This post is illogical, unsubstantiated and unreasonable."

    Someone has been watching too many reruns of Perry Mason.

    They that can give up essential Liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither Liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin
  • PaleElfPaleElf Posts: 990 ✭✭✭

    @messydesk said:
    I suggest an experiment for the OP. Submit 1000 2016 pennies and see if PCGS corrects their problem.

    Great idea!

  • lcoopielcoopie Posts: 8,873 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I want to eat breakfast

    LCoopie = Les
  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭

    in a new calendar collectors/dealers tend to send in the highest quality coins they can from searching fresh bags, rolls, etc.

    it could be that the quality is low this year.

  • jerseycat101jerseycat101 Posts: 1,360 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'd like to know what PCGS thinks about this:

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/282224121407

  • REALGATORREALGATOR Posts: 2,648 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Roger,

    Kinda early for Scotch, don't ya think?

    I heard they are way behind on grading 1804 dollars, too.

  • ashelandasheland Posts: 23,784 ✭✭✭✭✭

    This friday I am having Pizza and Fries! :naughty:

  • morgandollar1878morgandollar1878 Posts: 4,006 ✭✭✭✭✭
    To the OP:
    Why do you think that this is a PCGS problem? They only grade what is submitted to them. :D
    Instagram: nomad_numismatics
  • mannie graymannie gray Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I have looked through quite a few 2016-D rolls, and haven't found one coin worthy of submitting.
    The coins with no marks are already spotted, and the coins with bad contact marks of course are not spotted.
    That may be the main reason.
    Haven't seen any 2016 Philly rolls around here.

  • crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 14,071 ✭✭✭✭✭
    :) I'm sorry I don't understand the question. Or shall I say I don't remember. I dunno :(
    The bitterness of "Poor Quality" is remembered long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten.
  • Type2Type2 Posts: 13,985 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I just want to be a part of this. :smiley:



    Hoard the keys.
  • TommyTypeTommyType Posts: 4,586 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm more concerned with the lack of certified Chain Cents. PCGS needs to certify more of them so I can buy a full set by die marriage for, oh I don't know, less than $1000.

    PCGS: Get right on that.

    Easily distracted Type Collector

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