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Edit 9/3 Crusty 1807 Bust Half GTG, Grade reveled. Would you send in for regrade or CAC for Gold Sti

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  • SamByrdSamByrd Posts: 3,131 ✭✭✭✭
    fine 15 but they bumped it to vf20

    this coin though will go for vf25 money or more.

    funky dirty and way original. The the old toned over / worn over adjustment marks add to this coin as well.
  • TommyTypeTommyType Posts: 4,586 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think the sharpness of the stars and lettering mean it's a higher grade, and some of the weakness in the centers is "as struck".



    Put me down for VF30.





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  • TopographicOceansTopographicOceans Posts: 6,535 ✭✭✭✭
    15

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  • kazkaz Posts: 9,274 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'll guess vf 20. so dark it almost looks like old copper!
  • amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm in the 15 camp.
  • Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 11,711 ✭✭✭✭✭
    F15 for me as well. A little too dark and crusty for my taste, but many like this wholly original look.

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  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,809 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It's a nice Fine. !5 would be an appropriate number.

    BTW EAC does not grade early silver. If they did get that coin would get a VG-10 at least, unless the dealer is playing the buy in a lower grade, sell in a higher grade game.

    It would not surprise me if this coin is in a VF-20 or 25 holder.
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  • CuKevinCuKevin Posts: 1,739 ✭✭✭✭
    Add me to the 15 camp.
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  • SmittysSmittys Posts: 9,876 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Well I scored big on others, think they under graded this one a bit





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  • BustCudsBustCuds Posts: 1,096 ✭✭✭
    Nice crusty original, would put in the F15 grade.



    Wouldn't be surprised to see her in a VF20/25 holder.



    Definitely undergraded, took a weak obverse strike as wear...Congrats.
  • oih82w8oih82w8 Posts: 12,603 ✭✭✭✭✭
    So much for my opinion of VF20.
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  • VanHalenVanHalen Posts: 4,330 ✭✭✭✭✭
    You submitted this and got the VG grade? Looks 10 points under-graded to me and a possible mistake at PCGS.
  • jclovescoinsjclovescoins Posts: 1,946 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It looks like a Fine to me. Can't see a VG or VF at all.
  • DoubleEagle59DoubleEagle59 Posts: 8,377 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Holy Cow that's under graded!!
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  • goldengolden Posts: 9,996 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I was going to say 20. Try again?
  • lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,893 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Looks like a solid 15. I'd crack it or get it regraded.

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  • TommyTypeTommyType Posts: 4,586 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: lkeigwin

    Looks like a solid 15. I'd crack it or get it regraded.

    Lance.




    Or....you could sell it to me at VG-10 prices.



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  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,663 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I like it at 12, could possibly make a case for 15.



    Great coin as a 10, would not be interested as a 20.

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  • amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭
    LOL! My original gut feeling was what PCGS graded it VG10. I grade it 15 but am not surprised! Sometimes PCGS doesn't seem to be able to get past weak strikes!
  • MarkInDavisMarkInDavis Posts: 1,721 ✭✭✭✭
    I thought 15.
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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I would have guessed 15.... and still think it better than a 10.... Cheers, RickO
  • SmittysSmittys Posts: 9,876 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think CAC gold
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  • lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,893 ✭✭✭✭✭
    A gold 10 isn't worth a cert 15, to me. I gave my opinion earlier.

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  • TPRCTPRC Posts: 3,814 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It looks undergraded for sure. Hair detail and clouds indicate that. The problem is that the graders just don't see many of these. I think I would send it to CAC.

    Tom

  • NysotoNysoto Posts: 3,824 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nice coin. My experience is that PCGS uses the level of detail on the rim in grading circulated draped bust halves. If the coin does not have full dentilation, it may get a VG grade even though central details may warrant a Fine grade, which this coin deserves.

    I would crack the coin out and enjoy it raw, without worrying about the TPG grade or sticker.
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  • CoinZipCoinZip Posts: 3,253 ✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: Nysoto

    Nice coin. My experience is that PCGS uses the level of detail on the rim in grading circulated draped bust halves. If the coin does not have full dentilation, it may get a VG grade even though central details may warrant a Fine grade, which this coin deserves.



    I would crack the coin out and enjoy it raw, without worrying about the TPG grade or sticker.






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