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justcollectingjustcollecting Posts: 195 ✭✭✭
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Is there enough left to identify?
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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I do not think so... perhaps an expert may be able to detect some point(s).... Cheers, RickO
  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,810 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Now that IS a true Poor-1 for the lowball collectors. Perhaps a specialist can still identify it but I can't.
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  • Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 11,800 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I know that the first three digits are '179'.....

    To add - can you determine if the planchet is 'thick', or if any edge lettering is present?
    That may provide further clues.



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  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,693 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Looks like 1798. Now, let me guess the grade .... image

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  • Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 11,800 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Looks like 1798.

    That is one date that can be excluded.....the presence of the Liberty cap puts from late '93 to mid-'96....the profile doesn't appear to be a match for a '93 Liberty cap, so I'd exclude that.
    If it's a thick planchet/lettered edge, it would be a '94 or early '95. Thin planchet with plain edge would put it as a '95 or a '96 (non draped bust type).



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  • TheRegulatorTheRegulator Posts: 1,236 ✭✭✭
    I'll say S-43.
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  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,693 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: Walkerguy21D

    Looks like 1798.



    That is one date that can be excluded.....the presence of the Liberty cap puts from late '93 to mid-'96....the profile doesn't appear to be a match for a '93 Liberty cap, so I'd exclude that.

    If it's a thick planchet/lettered edge, it would be a '94 or early '95. Thin planchet with plain edge would put it as a '95 or a '96 (non draped bust type).













    Thanks. I see a round shape so it could be the bottom of a 3, 5, or 6.

    I could copy the photo and show Tom Reynolds (local EAC guy). He might know, but I'm guessing.

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  • MICHAELDIXONMICHAELDIXON Posts: 6,637 ✭✭✭✭✭
    One of these experts will be able to identify it. I have posted less and they have been correct, or correct enough to have it certified as such.
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  • ashelandasheland Posts: 24,016 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I like it! image

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  • ambro51ambro51 Posts: 14,039 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Wouldn't it be interesting to gather together all the people who handled this coin? ....all the transactions it done. No doubt an unwanted cull that was still circulating by the coming of the small cent.
  • rheddenrhedden Posts: 6,636 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Completely unidentifiable as a die marriage, except for all those little stars around the rim.


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    Sorry, bad attempt at early copper humor.

  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 44,038 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: rhedden

    Completely unidentifiable as a die marriage, except for all those little stars around the rim.





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    Sorry, bad attempt at early copper humor.







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  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 35,009 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It looks like a 1794, Head of '94, Red Book variety, but beyond that I would not hazard a guess.
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  • TommyTypeTommyType Posts: 4,586 ✭✭✭✭✭
    No expertise here either....



    But I find the state of the "U" in United on the reverse to be interesting. Despite all the wear, it does appear that a significant crack/die break cut through the middle of the "U"?? Might be enough for someone to identify a reverse die and die marriage?
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  • OKbustchaserOKbustchaser Posts: 5,556 ✭✭✭✭✭
    TheRegulator got it with S-43. The die crack through the U on the reverse tells the story.



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  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 35,009 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It's interesting how you can still determine the Sheldon number with very little left to see.

    Many years ago a club member had me try to attribute four large cents for him. Three of them did not have dates, and they were Draped Bust pieces. I was surprised to find that I could determine all of the Sheldon numbers, but it took me a while.
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  • Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 11,800 ✭✭✭✭✭
    TheRegulator got it with S-43. The die crack through the U on the reverse tells the story.


    Impressive attribution skills! image

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  • justcollectingjustcollecting Posts: 195 ✭✭✭
    I don't care what anyone says you guys are good. Thanks Regulator.
  • TheRegulatorTheRegulator Posts: 1,236 ✭✭✭

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  • Mission16Mission16 Posts: 1,413 ✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: Walkerguy21D
    TheRegulator got it with S-43. The die crack through the U on the reverse tells the story.


    Impressive attribution skills! image




    No kidding!

  • jedmjedm Posts: 3,196 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It's amazing to me that with such little evidence to work with, the Regulator got that variety by noticing the die crack in the U on that very small portion of the reverse that wasn't completely smooth! It's like watching the detectives.

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