This is absolutely not a doubled die. As others have stated, it is simply machine doubling. Do not confuse that with the lesser doubled dies for the date, as they exhibit genuine hub doubling only with a lesser spread.
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I sent a similar one to ANACS several years ago and it came back lasered. So my concern was whether it was a lasered coin. I have the books and knew it wasn't one of the known doubled dies.
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The "real" 1972 DDO has almost as much doubling as the 1955 DDO. There are minor varieties of the 1972 DDO that are not as valuable. This one might not even be one of them. The date might only be machine doubling.
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Ok, let me clarify. I knew from the beginning this was not an authentic DDO. I have handled hundreds of them throughout the years, have a PCGS certified in my collection and have the books where I can verify it myself. If you look at my third post, I wanted to know if anybody can tell whether it has been lasered. Next time, I will be more specific. You do not have to post pictures of those you are sending in whenever they return.
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Ok, let me clarify. I knew from the beginning this was not an authentic DDO. I have handled hundreds of them throughout the years, have a PCGS certified in my collection and have the books where I can verify it myself. If you look at my third post, I wanted to know if anybody can tell whether it has been lasered. Next time, I will be more specific. You do not have to post pictures of those you are sending in whenever they return.
That was sure my reaction. MICHAELDIXON doesn't know what a 72 DDO looks like?? Who are you, and what have you done with MICHAELDIXON??!!
Relieved to know it's really you.
As far as the question, I sure would have presumed it was a machine doubling, but you're apparently seeing smoething more atypical than I noticed.
By changing the thread title, after so many have already responded to your origional thread question/title, now makes this thread confusing to new viewers. You should have closed this out and just started a new thread. JMHO.
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Darned if I would know what a “lasered” coin would like or any characteristics of a lasered coin. I could not even find anything on the web other for the treatment of crud accumulated coins.
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The only "doubling" that I'm seeing is on the date which looks very much like machine or "shelf" doubling to me.Note the especially pronounced shelf on the "2's."
If in fact the piece was lasered,it's a very amateurish job of trying to make the piece look like an authentic 1972 DDO.
One reason for collectors to use a loupe at the show or in the shop is to try to make accurate assessment of pieces like this for what they really are.
Whoever is careless with the truth in small matters cannot be trusted with important matters.
It looks like machine doubling to me. I'm not sure what a lasered example would look like, but it would have to think it'd be difficult to make laser around the curve in the two that neatly.
Why in the world would someone "laser" a circulated 1972 cent? And you've sent one of these MD examples off to ANACS and paid them to examine it? I thought you were asking for opinions on if this was a doubled die of the other 8 minor varieties recognized by the cherrypicker guide. I do not understand what brings you to the conclusion that this coin may be lasered.
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Originally posted by: DCW Why in the world would someone "laser" a circulated 1972 cent? And you've sent one of these MD examples off to ANACS and paid them to examine it? I thought you were asking for opinions on if this was a doubled die of the other 8 minor varieties recognized by the cherrypicker guide. I do not understand what brings you to the conclusion that this coin may be lasered.
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machine doubling.....I think not.
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There are minor varieties of the 1972 DDO that are not as valuable.
and some more so.
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And let me clarify then. No, it doesn't look to be "doctored" or lasered to me.
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Ok, let me clarify. I knew from the beginning this was not an authentic DDO. I have handled hundreds of them throughout the years, have a PCGS certified in my collection and have the books where I can verify it myself. If you look at my third post, I wanted to know if anybody can tell whether it has been lasered. Next time, I will be more specific. You do not have to post pictures of those you are sending in whenever they return.
That was sure my reaction. MICHAELDIXON doesn't know what a 72 DDO looks like?? Who are you, and what have you done with MICHAELDIXON??!!
Relieved to know it's really you.
As far as the question, I sure would have presumed it was a machine doubling, but you're apparently seeing smoething more atypical than I noticed.
Here's a warning parable for coin collectors...
You should have closed this out and just started a new thread.
JMHO.
WS
If in fact the piece was lasered,it's a very amateurish job of trying to make the piece look like an authentic 1972 DDO.
One reason for collectors to use a loupe at the show or in the shop is to try to make accurate assessment of pieces like this for what they really are.
Whoever is careless with the truth in small matters cannot be trusted with important matters.
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I don't see how such an alteration would fool anybody who knows what machine doubling (extra $ value $0) looks like and is armed with a 10x loupe.
Whoever is careless with the truth in small matters cannot be trusted with important matters.
Any of them. Machine doubled.
bob
I thought you were asking for opinions on if this was a doubled die of the other 8 minor varieties recognized by the cherrypicker guide. I do not understand what brings you to the conclusion that this coin may be lasered.
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Why in the world would someone "laser" a circulated 1972 cent? And you've sent one of these MD examples off to ANACS and paid them to examine it?
I thought you were asking for opinions on if this was a doubled die of the other 8 minor varieties recognized by the cherrypicker guide. I do not understand what brings you to the conclusion that this coin may be lasered.
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Whenever a customer wants a coin sent to the grading services, I oblige them.