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1847 Half Eagle stuck in platinum

BoosibriBoosibri Posts: 12,406 ✭✭✭✭✭
I was doing some catalog research looking for a provenance and came across this listing from the B.W Smith sale by Max Mehl in 1915.



"Struck in platinum, partly gold plated. Appears to be of the identical dies as the preceding coin [a normal 1847 $5], but probably a counterfeit of the period when platinum was of much less value than gold. The metal value alone of the coin is now approximately $12.00"



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  • YorkshiremanYorkshireman Posts: 4,585 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Very interesting!

    I wonder where that coin is now.
    Yorkshireman,Obsessed collector of round, metallic pieces of history.Hunting for Latin American colonial portraits plus cool US & British coins.
  • BoosibriBoosibri Posts: 12,406 ✭✭✭✭✭
    probably melted for the basel value
  • YorkshiremanYorkshireman Posts: 4,585 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That would be sad...
    Yorkshireman,Obsessed collector of round, metallic pieces of history.Hunting for Latin American colonial portraits plus cool US & British coins.
  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Maybe it was a undocumented pattern which was poorly gilt afterward by a collector? image



    Just a thought as the mint was playing with platinum in 1814 as a alternate base metal to silver.
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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That would be a amazing find...most likely lost because someone thought it was counterfeit or junk... Cheers, RickO
  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,419 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I've seen about half a dozen platinum half eagles over the years. All were contemporary counterfeits. And although I have not seen an 1847, I'm sure that's what this one was as well.
    Andy Lustig

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  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: MrEureka

    I've seen about half a dozen platinum half eagles over the years. All were contemporary counterfeits. And although I have not seen an 1847, I'm sure that's what this one was as well.




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  • sellitstoresellitstore Posts: 3,053 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Platinum counterfeits of 19th century European gold coins, particularly French 20 Francs, seem to be somewhat more frequently seen than the U.S. counterparts.
    Collector and dealer in obsolete currency. Always buying all obsolete bank notes and scrip.
  • SaorAlbaSaorAlba Posts: 7,593 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: sellitstore

    Platinum counterfeits of 19th century European gold coins, particularly French 20 Francs, seem to be somewhat more frequently seen than the U.S. counterparts.




    They were very common with Spanish 20 peseta and Italian 20 Lire gold coins also. Russia of course struck platinum coinage during the 1830s, so I have to wonder that platinum was used later for forgeries - but often in Russia the forgeries tended to be of Austro-Hungarian coins that were used in Russian or Ukrainian speaking areas like Galicia and Lvov.

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  • TopographicOceansTopographicOceans Posts: 6,535 ✭✭✭✭
    I bet coinguy1 could add to the Max Mehl story.
  • CoinosaurusCoinosaurus Posts: 9,645 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Mehl's Numismatic Monthly for January 1919 (digitized by the Newman Portal at http://dev.newmanportal.org/library/publisherdetail/511071) has this interesting note:

    "Valuable Counterfeits

    Venezuelan Who Imitated Gold Coins in Platinum Cheated Himself.

    Recent shipments of platinum from Venezuela have contained a few of
    the strangest counterfeit coins ever made — strange in that they are worth
    about five times their face value.

    Many years ago some person in Venezuela or Colombia discovered that
    the native platinum which was plentiful, made a fine imitation of the old
    Spanish gold pieces that are still current in South America. He gold-plated
    them, and a few of them are still in circulation down there.

    Now that platinum is worth far more than gold, these counterfeits are
    veritable treasures to him into whose hands they may chance to come."

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