eBay says it's fraud and PP says ship it out
TopographicOceans
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I sold a coin on eBay for $1350. Then
1) I get an email from PayPal saying they are reviewing the transaction.
2) Then I get an email from eBay saying
We had to cancel bids and purchases on the following item(s) for the buyer, xxxxxxxx, because they were made without the account owner's permission:
Please note that we're working with the account owner to prevent any additional unauthorized activity.
3) Then PP sends an email saying their review is complete and it is OK to ship and Seller Protection is enabled.
So I call PP and they say everything is fine and to ship it. I get transferred to eBay who also says to ship it.
I explain they sent an email saying it was done without the account owners permission, so she puts me on hold to get a supervisor, who eventually says don't ship and to cancel the transaction.
1) I get an email from PayPal saying they are reviewing the transaction.
2) Then I get an email from eBay saying
We had to cancel bids and purchases on the following item(s) for the buyer, xxxxxxxx, because they were made without the account owner's permission:
Please note that we're working with the account owner to prevent any additional unauthorized activity.
3) Then PP sends an email saying their review is complete and it is OK to ship and Seller Protection is enabled.
So I call PP and they say everything is fine and to ship it. I get transferred to eBay who also says to ship it.
I explain they sent an email saying it was done without the account owners permission, so she puts me on hold to get a supervisor, who eventually says don't ship and to cancel the transaction.
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I continue to get coupons and special offers but resist.
It's not worth the hassle.
I prefer to buy and sell at shows.
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If you can't make contact or don't get a response then cancel everything and refund.
RIP Mom- 1932-2012
Ship nothing until you contact the true account owner and find out what's going on.
If you can't make contact or don't get a response then cancel everything and refund.
I would cancel the order regardless based on what has already transpired.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
PayPal, says it is OK to ship. And therefore, you are covered by their seller protection. If they tell you shipping is OK. You are covered.
But if you want to make really sure everything is copasetic, contact the buyer, cancel that transaction in PayPal, and then send them an invoice directly (assuming it is not fraud and they really still want the coin). If they agree to pay that and PayPal tells you it is "OK to ship" it becomes like any other direct PayPal transaction.
Wonder if what you are seeing is probably a technological snafu due to the transition of the divestiture of PayPal from eBay. They are two separate companies now, and frankly I trust PayPal Way more than I do EBay.
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I long for the old days when eBay was strictly an auction outlet, every auction lasted seven days, and payment was made by cashiers check or postal money orders.
It was fun, sellers' costs were low (as low as 2.5% if my memory serves), and there was no such thing as Paypal.
And then eBay got greedy...
(sigh)
I long for the old days when eBay was strictly an auction outlet, every auction lasted seven days, and payment was made by cashiers check or postal money orders.
It was fun, sellers' costs were low (as low as 2.5% if my memory serves), and there was no such thing as Paypal.
And then eBay got greedy...
Yes there was....it was called bidpay, if my memory serves me right. PayPal has been a "money changer." No more waiting to receive a check nor waiting for it to clear. Buyer or Seller protection was unheard off. I've been an eBay seller since 2000, and you can have the good ole days.
(sigh)
I long for the old days when eBay was strictly an auction outlet, every auction lasted seven days, and payment was made by cashiers check or postal money orders.
It was fun, sellers' costs were low (as low as 2.5% if my memory serves), and there was no such thing as Paypal.
And then eBay got greedy...
Waiting for a check? Time to get back in your time machine and come home!
Ebay is a super awesome venue for coins !!! Buy and sell !!!!
Paypal customer service is second to none !!!!!!!!!!!!
Ebay has the worst customer service in the history of planet earth !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(sigh)
I long for the old days when eBay was strictly an auction outlet, every auction lasted seven days, and payment was made by cashiers check or postal money orders.
It was fun, sellers' costs were low (as low as 2.5% if my memory serves), and there was no such thing as Paypal.
And then eBay got greedy...
Yes there was....it was called bidpay, if my memory serves me right. PayPal has been a "money changer." No more waiting to receive a check nor waiting for it to clear. Buyer or Seller protection was unheard off. I've been an eBay seller since 2000, and you can have the good ole days.
Their original service was called Billpoint. Bidpay was a short lived competitor of Paypal.
And frankly I liked the old days of Ebay just fine. I didn't mind waiting for a check or MO to clear and neither did my customers. I could buy and sell in a level playing field without sport bidders using me for a free approval service. I also didn't have to worry about feedback extortion attempts from buyers because I could leave honest feedback about the deal- compared to today's choices of leaving a positive or nothing at all. FB means nothing to a buyer now.
RIP Mom- 1932-2012
The check doesn't bounce, there isn't any drama, and they answer the phone when I call. I never did enough business with the other guys to justify having a "store" or qualifying for discounted fees. Tell me why exactly I'd chose to stick with the company in the OP's title?
(sigh)
I long for the old days when eBay was strictly an auction outlet, every auction lasted seven days, and payment was made by cashiers check or postal money orders.
It was fun, sellers' costs were low (as low as 2.5% if my memory serves), and there was no such thing as Paypal.
And then eBay got greedy...
Yes there was....it was called bidpay, if my memory serves me right. PayPal has been a "money changer." No more waiting to receive a check nor waiting for it to clear. Buyer or Seller protection was unheard off. I've been an eBay seller since 2000, and you can have the good ole days.
Their original service was called Billpoint. Bidpay was a short lived competitor of Paypal.
And frankly I liked the old days of Ebay just fine. I didn't mind waiting for a check or MO to clear and neither did my customers. I could buy and sell in a level playing field without sport bidders using me for a free approval service. I also didn't have to worry about feedback extortion attempts from buyers because I could leave honest feedback about the deal- compared to today's choices of leaving a positive or nothing at all. FB means nothing to a buyer now.
Agreed. I didn't mind waiting for a check either. I wasn't aware of Billpoint because eBay gave the seller the OPTION of using it, which I didn't.
I was furious when eBay began to REQUIRE sellers to accept PayPal (which they owned, of course, or vice-versa). What a crock -- just an excuse to charge more and more fees, which have continued to go up.
I joined eBay in 1998 and it was great for about the first five years... a great conduit for collectors to buy and sell coins to each other while bypassing the dealers. Everyone was on a level playing field...
Sure, give me a time machine to go back to those days anytime... I built a great collection, made lots of collector friends, and never once had a dishonest transaction.
I wouldn't use eBay in the form it's in now if you paid me.
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Been on for 15 years.
I guess 50 year old exhaust manifolds are not a big theft and fraud item.
Looking for Top Pop Mercury Dime Varieties & High Grade Mercury Dime Toners.
So I canceled it again, which triggered PayPal to issue a refund.
I have the coin and whoever paid for it has their money back.
The wonder of the Internet lets me interface with people I wouldn't normally have contact with, so they are easy to dismiss.
I'm not going to contact someone who said the purchase was not authorized to see if they want to buy it again.
(sigh)
I long for the old days when eBay was strictly an auction outlet, every auction lasted seven days, and payment was made by cashiers check or postal money orders.
It was fun, sellers' costs were low (as low as 2.5% if my memory serves), and there was no such thing as Paypal.
And then eBay got greedy...
Waiting for a check? Time to get back in your time machine and come home!
My YouTube Channel
(sigh)
I long for the old days when eBay was strictly an auction outlet, every auction lasted seven days, and payment was made by cashiers check or postal money orders.
It was fun, sellers' costs were low (as low as 2.5% if my memory serves), and there was no such thing as Paypal.
And then eBay got greedy...
Waiting for a check? Time to get back in your time machine and come home!
Funny, although somewhat curious given this hobby's continued fixation on designs that are a hundred years old or more. Small wonder the Mint keeps milking the collector base with countless reissues of these antique designs.
Talk about a "time machine" mentality... wonder when this hobby will extract itself from its time machine and step into the 21st century?