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Representative Toning Patterns

BoosibriBoosibri Posts: 12,289 ✭✭✭✭✭
There are a few recognizable and consistent toning patterns which originate from a common source. Wayte Raymond albums, Capital Plastics holders, tab toning from commem holders, wood or leather pouch toning on gold, etc.



Post an example of a toned coin which is representative of a particular toning source.

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  • rheddenrhedden Posts: 6,630 ✭✭✭✭✭
    "Leather pouch" toning. It's thick. It's brown. It's original. Nearly everyone hates it. image

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    "Newman-Green Toning." Many silver coins in the Newman sales had thin bands of rainbow coloration about the peripheries. This one is PCGS PR66 (was NGC PR67).

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    "Wayte Raymond" Toning. This coin sat in an old Wayte Raymond album for about 50 years. I removed it and submitted to NGC, where they graded it MS63, but without the "star" designation.

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    "Library of Coins" album toning. This coin sat in a Library of Coins album from 1961-2008. It now resides in an NGC MS62 holder.

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    Someone needs to post some "Taco Bell Napkin" toning for old time's sake.

  • BoosibriBoosibri Posts: 12,289 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Great stuff Rhedden
  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    no pictures, but as indicated by rhedden most of the albums past/present tend to impart their own specific type of color. the ones I am most familiar with are more current than those pictured, they include Dansco, post-1970 blue Whitman and Littleton albums that seem to have come during the past 15-20 years. I have also found nicely toned coins in some of the TeleMarket promotional holders with thick cardboard holders with glossy pictures that represent the coin encased in them.
  • CommemDudeCommemDude Posts: 2,292 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Tab toning from Dennison cardboard holder used to mail out many commems
    Sometimes seen with a central toning dot if the coin was in the central position of the holderimage
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    Dr Mikey
    Commems and Early Type
  • kazkaz Posts: 9,227 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The Pan Pac halves were sold in a velvet lined case that imparted an aqua-rose color to many examples.



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  • tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,162 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Tissue toned

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  • JRoccoJRocco Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭✭
    End roll toning.

    Toning imparted from the paper at the end of a coin roll

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    Some coins are just plain "Interesting"
  • halfhunterhalfhunter Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭
    EOR toning:



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    HH
    Need the following OBW rolls to complete my 46-64 Roosevelt roll set:
    1947-P & D; 1948-D; 1949-P & S; 1950-D & S; and 1952-S.
    Any help locating any of these OBW rolls would be gratefully appreciated!
  • TomBTomB Posts: 21,743 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I imagine that the longer this thread goes, the more secondary toning you will see and that these secondarily toned coins will generally not be labeled as such. Also, I would guess that some AT pieces are going to be posted along with the stories that help facilitate their sales.
    Thomas Bush Numismatics & Numismatic Photography

    In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson

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  • david3142david3142 Posts: 3,576 ✭✭✭✭✭
    How about a PCI toned Silver Eagle?



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    A bag-toned Morgan (which looks like it was also later stored in an album). This one has some textile, but other forum members have much better examples of that.

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  • BoosibriBoosibri Posts: 12,289 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: TomB

    I imagine that the longer this thread goes, the more secondary toning you will see and that these secondarily toned coins will generally not be labeled as such. Also, I would guess that some AT pieces are going to be posted along with the stories that help facilitate their sales.




    Hopefully there is some constructive peer criticism in that case.
  • TomBTomB Posts: 21,743 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: Boosibri

    Originally posted by: TomB

    I imagine that the longer this thread goes, the more secondary toning you will see and that these secondarily toned coins will generally not be labeled as such. Also, I would guess that some AT pieces are going to be posted along with the stories that help facilitate their sales.




    Hopefully there is some constructive peer criticism in that case.




    Perhaps, but folks can be quite defensive about their coins and not everyone who might comment will have the same experience with respect to seeing things over the years. Additionally, images aren't always that accurate. Regardless, I already see at least one example that fits what I described originally.

    Thomas Bush Numismatics & Numismatic Photography

    In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson

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  • goldengolden Posts: 9,902 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: tradedollarnut
    Tissue toned

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  • braddickbraddick Posts: 24,339 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I picked this one up off of eBay this morning:
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    I am not sure what type of toning it represents. Probably a type of small coin envelope for a long period of time.

    peacockcoins

  • keyman64keyman64 Posts: 15,521 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Don't forget about the 1940s Mint Set toning...most of the time it turns out like crud but rarely it does turn out nice.

    Early 1960s cellophane toning

    1950s cellophane toning is more rare

    1970-S Proof Set toning with the obv ring tone on the cent and the light blue toning circle on other coins.

    I have seen 1976 Proof Set with a funky wood grain toned cent.

    Yellow envelope toning from different amounts of phosphorous in the paper

    Other off brand holders have produced funky things. Going to photograph one today in fact.

    Raymond Wayte albums were very popular for toning Roosevelt dimes pretty darn nice

    Capital Plastics (and the off brands of those)

    1964 Kennedy Half Dollars toned funky in the Commemorative White Cardboard type holder

    Others mentioned in this thread...

    So many others....

    Not to mention when these holders are stored in warm humid areas like attics, garages, wrapped in newspaper or wrapping paper or.....

    when the holders break down and other elements get added to the coins' environment.



    I don't have time to post coins with all of these right now but maybe others do?

    "If it's not fun, it's not worth it." - KeyMan64
    Looking for Top Pop Mercury Dime Varieties & High Grade Mercury Dime Toners. :smile:
  • tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,162 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Amon Carter toning

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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Tarnish is tarnish... although different sources of the chemical contamination provide different results... it is all environmental damage....Damage that people will pay a premium for. Cheers, RickO
  • BoosibriBoosibri Posts: 12,289 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: ricko

    Tarnish is tarnish... although different sources of the chemical contamination provide different results... it is all environmental damage....Damage that people will pay a premium for. Cheers, RickO




    The point is that the toning patterns themselves are part of the history of numismatics. I find that fact to be interesting.

  • cointimecointime Posts: 2,013 ✭✭✭✭✭
    End of roll toning.



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    Extra large photo of '58 Quarter



    Toning from a 5 coin holder given out by Citizens Federal Savings and Loan Assoc Cleveland, Ohio



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    Extra large photo of '64 half
  • MeltdownMeltdown Posts: 8,892 ✭✭✭✭✭
  • dadamsdadams Posts: 376 ✭✭✭
    Here is a Peace Dollar holdered in a plastic case and cardboard:

    (apologies in a advance for the not so decent pics)

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  • BGBG Posts: 1,762 ✭✭✭✭✭
    1950's Mint Set Toning:





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    Meltdown beat me to it.
  • kazkaz Posts: 9,227 ✭✭✭✭✭
    This Conn. half came with the little original gift box that had been its home prior to being slabbed:

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  • ShadyDaveShadyDave Posts: 2,207 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: dadams
    Here is a Peace Dollar holdered in a plastic case and cardboard:
    (apologies in a advance for the not so decent pics)
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  • halfhunterhalfhunter Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭
    What . . . No "Tidy House" toners?

    Need the following OBW rolls to complete my 46-64 Roosevelt roll set:
    1947-P & D; 1948-D; 1949-P & S; 1950-D & S; and 1952-S.
    Any help locating any of these OBW rolls would be gratefully appreciated!
  • LewLew Posts: 171 ✭✭✭
    The Redfield and Paramount dollars pretty much have a consistent dark rim toning.
    Most are not particularly great looking but they are very noticeable.
    Sorry could not post a picture.
  • SoCalBigMarkSoCalBigMark Posts: 2,795 ✭✭✭✭✭
    TBN toning

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  • bolivarshagnastybolivarshagnasty Posts: 7,352 ✭✭✭✭✭
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  • keyman64keyman64 Posts: 15,521 ✭✭✭✭✭
    In my list above, I forgot about the 2009 Proof Set obverse rim toning on the Lincolns in pink/purple.
    "If it's not fun, it's not worth it." - KeyMan64
    Looking for Top Pop Mercury Dime Varieties & High Grade Mercury Dime Toners. :smile:
  • WinLoseWinWinLoseWin Posts: 1,619 ✭✭✭✭✭






    Season's Greetings card toning and non-toning on BTW halves.







    More info here:



    What I love about classic commen toning is...











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    "To Be Esteemed Be Useful" - 1792 Birch Cent --- "I personally think we developed language because of our deep need to complain." - Lily Tomlin

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  • IrishMikeyIrishMikey Posts: 1,561 ✭✭✭
    Waiting for a silver coin that toned in one of the old ANACS white holders. Some of them are pretty cool.
  • EastonCollectionEastonCollection Posts: 1,451 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Coins from the Benson cabinet are known for is wonderful colorful toning and when available they go fast.

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    Easton Collection
  • SkyManSkyMan Posts: 9,493 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Envelope toning.

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  • cmerlo1cmerlo1 Posts: 7,929 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I call this 'breached government packaging toning'. This cent was in a proof set where the packaging had separated between several of the coins, and there was a tiny tear in the plastic that let air inside. It was in the original government envelope. The other coins looked terrible.

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    You Suck! Awarded 6/2008- 1901-O Micro O Morgan, 8/2008- 1878 VAM-123 Morgan, 9/2022 1888-O VAM-1B3 H8 Morgan | Senior Regional Representative- ANACS Coin Grading. Posted opinions on coins are my own, and are not an official ANACS opinion.
  • RonyahskiRonyahski Posts: 3,117 ✭✭✭✭✭


    Benson toning. Chromatic look with vivid blues, purples, album toning.





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    Some refer to overgraded slabs as Coffins. I like to think of them as Happy Coins.
  • CoppercolorCoppercolor Posts: 1,475 ✭✭✭
    Another classic (and gorgeous) example of US Double Mint Set Toning.

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    I'd like my copper well done please!
  • david3142david3142 Posts: 3,576 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Wow, Jeff. Those Franklins and Roosevelts are amazing. Are they still in the set of have they been slabbed by now?
  • mannie graymannie gray Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Killer Mint set there!
  • halfhunterhalfhunter Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭
    Another End OF Roll (EOR) Toner:



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    NGC-67



    HH
    Need the following OBW rolls to complete my 46-64 Roosevelt roll set:
    1947-P & D; 1948-D; 1949-P & S; 1950-D & S; and 1952-S.
    Any help locating any of these OBW rolls would be gratefully appreciated!
  • CoppercolorCoppercolor Posts: 1,475 ✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: david3142
    Wow, Jeff. Those Franklins and Roosevelts are amazing. Are they still in the set of have they been slabbed by now?


    David, I intended to keep the set but someone offered me 7x what I paid for it and I caved. I understood he was going to keep it intact. A month later I began seeing the coins at auction online. So it was broken up. Oddly I bought one of them back at one of the auctions for almost nothing. Then resold it. I"ve been looking for the others.

    Jeff
    I'd like my copper well done please!

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