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A bidder with 2 feedbacks on a $1,500 item of mine.

jmski52jmski52 Posts: 24,024 ✭✭✭✭✭
I have an auction running with a high bid of over $1,500 on one of my coins. If I require payment via paypal, is there anything I need to worry about?
Q: Are You Printing Money? Bernanke: Not Literally

I knew it would happen.

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    AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 25,053 ✭✭✭✭✭
    A return from a newbie that does not know better?



    I probably would not worry as the bidding is not yet over....then worry!



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    OuthaulOuthaul Posts: 7,440 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Everyone of us had only 2 feedbacks at one time.

    Cheers

    Bob
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    mariner67mariner67 Posts: 2,746 ✭✭✭
    Hopefully it won't be a jerk like the one who bought legit items and returned counterfeit ones as posted in a recent thread here! Your situation is kinda scary. Good luck. Hoping everything works out well.
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    AmazonXAmazonX Posts: 681 ✭✭✭✭
    Is the coin raw or certified?
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    jmski52jmski52 Posts: 24,024 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Raw
    Q: Are You Printing Money? Bernanke: Not Literally

    I knew it would happen.
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    commoncents05commoncents05 Posts: 10,102 ✭✭✭
    I have sold to enough zero feedback buyers that I wouldn't get concerned. Every time one of them buys one of my coins, I hold my breath. But, I've never been burned (knock on wood).

    -Paul
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    CapgunCapgun Posts: 1,007 ✭✭✭
    No worries. When does it end?
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    DollarAfterDollarDollarAfterDollar Posts: 3,217 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I just packaged a $400 coin for mailing in the morning to someone with 20 feedback. I'm not concerned.

    He's paid, what more can I ask?

    If you do what you always did, you get what you always got.
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    BryceMBryceM Posts: 11,941 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I can't see a way to sell on that particular auction site and not be subject to risks like this. It goes with the territory. Should you be worried? Maybe, but worrying isn't likely to help.
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    TigersFan2TigersFan2 Posts: 1,442 ✭✭
    The only selling problem I had was with a buyer with a 900+ feedback. He refused to pay via Paypal for political reasons and insisted on mailing me a money order. Just extra hassle for me as I had to wait to receive money and read his long emails about Paypal trying to destroy the money system.
    I love the 3 P's: PB&J, PBR and PCGS.
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    TigersFan2TigersFan2 Posts: 1,442 ✭✭
    It could be worse. You could be Great Southern Coin with a $1,500 high bidder with a feedback of 1. But in this case, it's pretty much guaranteed that high bidder is a shill.

    $1,500 shill bidder with feedback of 1.
    I love the 3 P's: PB&J, PBR and PCGS.
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    stmanstman Posts: 11,352 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Good thing I haven't bid on ebay in probably 10 years. If I did, I might be the subject of a thread.



    For those that want to waste their time go ahead and search for me. Or block me. image I know y'all like to do that.

    Heck I would too just to feel the power.



    Signed, stman with around 30 feedbacks.
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    OPAOPA Posts: 17,176 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: TigersFan2
    The only selling problem I had was with a buyer with a 900+ feedback. He refused to pay via Paypal for political reasons and insisted on mailing me a money order. Just extra hassle for me as I had to wait to receive money and read his long emails about Paypal trying to destroy the money system.



    Set up your selling parameters to accept PayPal only. The above bidder would not have been able to bid on your auction. 90% of my automatic bidding reject come from sellers w/o a PayPal account & to many unpaid item strikes. The other 10% from bidders located in countries I don't ship to. Ebay automatically rejects those attempting to bid, thereby saving you the headache.
    "Bongo drive 1984 Lincoln that looks like old coin dug from ground."
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    BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,790 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I recently created a buying account, as many have done. I have had an account since the late '90s that I used for buying and selling. I haven't done much selling, but if I start up again, given how ebay has changed things around, I wanted to have a separate buying account.



    Now, since it is NEW, it is at ZERO (0) feedback. I can just imagine the crying, whining, etc, from a seller when I bid on their items now (account is less than a week old and I haven't bid on anything...yet...but I may be about to).



    Not EVERY low feedback bidder is a newbie....

    I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment

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    TigersFan2TigersFan2 Posts: 1,442 ✭✭
    Originally posted by: OPA
    Originally posted by: TigersFan2
    The only selling problem I had was with a buyer with a 900+ feedback. He refused to pay via Paypal for political reasons and insisted on mailing me a money order. Just extra hassle for me as I had to wait to receive money and read his long emails about Paypal trying to destroy the money system.



    Set up your selling parameters to accept PayPal only. The above bidder would not have been able to bid on your auction. 90% of my automatic bidding reject come from sellers w/o a PayPal account & to many unpaid item strikes. The other 10% from bidders located in countries I don't ship to. Ebay automatically rejects those attempting to bid, thereby saving you the headache.


    I did that after that buyer.
    I love the 3 P's: PB&J, PBR and PCGS.
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    TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 45,284 ✭✭✭✭✭
    What you want are about 10 of those low feedback bidders. You know when more than 2 people want your stuff in an auction what happens image

    Practice makes perfect & nobody is perfect. So, practice being nobody and be perfect !

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    VanHalenVanHalen Posts: 4,330 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: TigersFan2

    It could be worse. You could be Great Southern Coin with a $1,500 high bidder with a feedback of 1. But in this case, it's pretty much guaranteed that high bidder is a shill.



    $1,500 shill bidder with feedback of 1.




    If they weren't so damn unethical these guys would be comical. imageisgust;





    Can we see a link to the coin from the OP?



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    TopographicOceansTopographicOceans Posts: 6,535 ✭✭✭✭
    If he wins, make sure you ship it with signature confirmation.

    In the old days an electronic form of payment wasn't required.

    I never had a problem with any checks or money orders I got, but on expensive items I'd require a USPS money order. They are great.
    No fees and you cash them at the PO before you ship.
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    jmski52jmski52 Posts: 24,024 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I did specify paypal only, and no returns. For this value, I ship Registered Mail. I don't know what else I can do to protect myself.

    Crossing my fingers doesn't seem that effective.

    Yeah, I know that everyone starts with zero feedbacks, but do zero feedback bidders always start out at $1,500?


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    Q: Are You Printing Money? Bernanke: Not Literally

    I knew it would happen.
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    BillJonesBillJones Posts: 35,992 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I had not done very much business with Stacks' before I asked them to let me bid on a very expensive item that was well over the amount you cited. Buyers and sellers have to start somewhere.
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    davewesendavewesen Posts: 7,009 ✭✭✭✭✭
    My problem with low feedback bidders has only been non-payment a few times. For some new eBayers (if this bidder actually is, could just have a new account) it is like walking into a candy store for the first time.

    Non- payment just takes your item off the market for a couple weeks and some extra work on your part.

    Make sure payment clears before shipping and to a verified address if PayPal.


    EBay used to have an option to block bidder with less than 10 feedback, now the best I could find is negative feedback score (can only get if seller now) and a couple non-payments in last ?month?
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    ebaytraderebaytrader Posts: 3,312 ✭✭✭
    Do not list anything on feepay that you can not afford to have stolen.


    ^ A saying repeated more times than I can count on feepay forums when a seller writes that they've been ripped off.
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    TigersFan2TigersFan2 Posts: 1,442 ✭✭
    If you don't feel comfortable with this buyer, you have he right as a seller to cancel his bid.
    I love the 3 P's: PB&J, PBR and PCGS.
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    ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Paypal has your back.
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    amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I have sold to quite a few 0 feedback users recently. I think collectors.com has brought many new users to ebay since all ebay listings are there! KUDOS to PCGS for this!
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    MonsterCoinzMonsterCoinz Posts: 1,518 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I would take a neg before I sent a $1500 coin to someone who just created their eBay account. Didn't you read the thread earlier this week of a buyer who sent back fake silver panda's and eBay sided with them?
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    ashelandasheland Posts: 24,548 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Not EVERY low feedback bidder is a newbie....


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    I have a buying account, too. Although mine has about 60 feedback, but it still could appear as a newbie...
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    ElKevvoElKevvo Posts: 4,199 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Well one good thing is that it has distinct markings...it cannot be switched out for a counterfeit or other coin so one less thing to worry about there. I think you'll be OK.



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    OPAOPA Posts: 17,176 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: amwldcoin
    I have sold to quite a few 0 feedback users recently. I think collectors.com has brought many new users to ebay since all ebay listings are there! KUDOS to PCGS for this!



    From my experience, it's not the newbees that turn out to be NPB, but the more established ones. If you are selling on any platform, don't let paranoia dictate your better judgment.
    "Bongo drive 1984 Lincoln that looks like old coin dug from ground."
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    goldengolden Posts: 10,565 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Hope it works out ok.
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    LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: commoncents05

    I have sold to enough zero feedback buyers that I wouldn't get concerned. Every time one of them buys one of my coins, I hold my breath. But, I've never been burned (knock on wood).



    -Paul




    +1



    lots of 0-5 fb buyers. - including some of my higher dollar items.



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    BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,790 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: jmski52

    I did specify paypal only, and no returns. For this value, I ship Registered Mail. I don't know what else I can do to protect myself.



    Crossing my fingers doesn't seem that effective.



    Yeah, I know that everyone starts with zero feedbacks, but do zero feedback bidders always start out at $1,500?





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    If a coin I was watching (waiting for ebay bucks to increase) hadn't sold before I created the account and got the ebay bucks offer, I was going to bid/win on a $2000+ coin as a ZERO feedback account.



    As it is, I just bid/won on a $500 coin as a ZERO feedback account. I now have ONE for my feedback.



    I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment

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    derrybderryb Posts: 38,644 ✭✭✭✭✭
    As a seller I normally give immediate feedback for a paying buyer. However, a buyer with less than 20 feedback does not get my feedback until he receives the item and gives me feedback. If he's gonna burn me, I'm gonna make sure he burns no one else.

    Governments can print currency. Only the people can print faith in it — and they’re running low on ink.

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    TopographicOceansTopographicOceans Posts: 6,535 ✭✭✭✭
    Your bidder is bidding on a lot of eBay gold

    He could be a rich guy that just discovered eBay or somebody like Bochi who just set up a new account.

    Or maybe he's planning on getting a divorce and converting the couple's cash to gold to hide it from his wife?

    Who knows why.

    Just make sure you follow the procedures to be covered under eBay's seller protection and have the package sent with USPS Signature Confirmation.

    He's the high bidder on 2 of 3 gold items that close in an hour.
    If we pays you might see his feedback double today.
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    TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 45,284 ✭✭✭✭✭
    We are a suspicious lot. Maybe not paranoid. Perhaps on high alert. image One wonders , with respect to this, why so many tread lightly and carry a big ___ . image

    Practice makes perfect & nobody is perfect. So, practice being nobody and be perfect !

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    unclebobunclebob Posts: 433 ✭✭✭
    This week, I just had a seller with 9000 positive feedbacks and zero negatives steal my cherrypick and send me a replacement coin and act dumb about it...

    Feedback means diddley squat

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    davewesendavewesen Posts: 7,009 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: unclebob
    This week, I just had a seller with 9000 positive feedbacks and zero negatives steal my cherrypick and send me a replacement coin and act dumb about it...

    Feedback means diddley squat



    Some of sellers have 'stock photo' of either their past sale or another picture they like. I bought a early proof Jefferson and the photo was a cropped photo of a coin in someones registry set. I could trace the die polish lines on the DCAM coin in the past that had sold for $10K. I did a search after I received their coin to see if I could find where they snagged their photo.

    So it is possible they did not steal your cherrypick, but had previously stole someones' pics. This is why I really dislike eBays use of their photos from some Tru-View that you are never going to get.
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    thebeavthebeav Posts: 4,127 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I have, along with most of us, made judgments based on first appearances. Many years ago, I learned my lesson.
    How many items have you sold to ebay'ers with zero feedback, looking like they joined to just get your item.....??? I have to say....."quite a few" !!!!
    I always have to think back, probably 35 years or so ago......I'm sitting in my store on a Saturday morning. Guy walks in...it's cold...November maybe.....
    His pants are shabby, his coat is torn.......I'm thinking "oh no, what the heck"?....."Do you buy Indian cents"? he says......."Yea, sure I do"......
    He pulls out a little pile of old, rounded corner 2 by 2's, held in a pile with a rubber band. Pulls off the rubber band and starts laying them on the counter.
    The first one I pick up is a '64 L in XF.......OMG I'm thinking.....He starts talking about the 'L' and how significant it is among the series. So we get into a nice discussion, and it's apparent that this guy truly loved Indians.....There's a '71 and '72 in VF, late 70's in XF......a few nice copper nicks.....no '77 or the like....but really nice collectible cents. The kind of stuff that doesn't walk in every day. I remember giving him close to 4 figures at the time. I was pretty new in business and I remember thinking that this is going to happen all the time.......Well, it doesn't happen all the time. You don't meet people that maybe love your game and need help at the same time. If I could meet that guy today, I would gladly give him a thousand dollars too much. He was that special and that needy. I was too new in business and didn't have the discretionary dollars at that time. I think about him a lot......I wonder what became of him.
    With Easter tomorrow I'm thinking, "Whom have I judged by appearances"? Can't we see everyone in the same mercy in which God sees all of us ?

    Don't sweat your low feedback bidder. It's always possible that the guy has just woke up......
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    AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 25,053 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It does appear that he really does want the coin. He's placed a higher bid in case someone else bids....I think you will be just fine with this bidder.



    As long as he pays.



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    hchcoinhchcoin Posts: 4,843 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: thebeav
    I have, along with most of us, made judgments based on first appearances. Many years ago, I learned my lesson.
    How many items have you sold to ebay'ers with zero feedback, looking like they joined to just get your item.....??? I have to say....."quite a few" !!!!
    I always have to think back, probably 35 years or so ago......I'm sitting in my store on a Saturday morning. Guy walks in...it's cold...November maybe.....
    His pants are shabby, his coat is torn.......I'm thinking "oh no, what the heck"?....."Do you buy Indian cents"? he says......."Yea, sure I do"......
    He pulls out a little pile of old, rounded corner 2 by 2's, held in a pile with a rubber band. Pulls off the rubber band and starts laying them on the counter.
    The first one I pick up is a '64 L in XF.......OMG I'm thinking.....He starts talking about the 'L' and how significant it is among the series. So we get into a nice discussion, and it's apparent that this guy truly loved Indians.....There's a '71 and '72 in VF, late 70's in XF......a few nice copper nicks.....no '77 or the like....but really nice collectible cents. The kind of stuff that doesn't walk in every day. I remember giving him close to 4 figures at the time. I was pretty new in business and I remember thinking that this is going to happen all the time.......Well, it doesn't happen all the time. You don't meet people that maybe love your game and need help at the same time. If I could meet that guy today, I would gladly give him a thousand dollars too much. He was that special and that needy. I was too new in business and didn't have the discretionary dollars at that time. I think about him a lot......I wonder what became of him.
    With Easter tomorrow I'm thinking, "Whom have I judged by appearances"? Can't we see everyone in the same mercy in which God sees all of us ?

    Don't sweat your low feedback bidder. It's always possible that the guy has just woke up......


    Great post!
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    rte592rte592 Posts: 2,243 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Buyer has his named stacked twice a couple days apart,I'd say your probably good.



    Want me to throw some $25 at it to see if he's serious ?



    c***e ( 2 ) New eBay Member (less than 30 days) US $1,575.00

    Mar-26-16 13:02:31 PDT

    c***e ( 2 ) New eBay Member (less than 30 days) US $1,575.00

    Mar-22-16 19:15:21 PDT



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    CapgunCapgun Posts: 1,007 ✭✭✭
    Simple answer is NO, because we aren't God. HAPPY Easter to you & yours & God bless you.
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    rte592rte592 Posts: 2,243 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Can you still go back on ebay and look at the high bidders profile ?

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    OPAOPA Posts: 17,176 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: rte592
    Can you still go back on ebay and look at the high bidders profile ?


    Only if you are (were) the seller.
    "Bongo drive 1984 Lincoln that looks like old coin dug from ground."

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