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St. Eligius

BoosibriBoosibri Posts: 12,335 ✭✭✭✭✭
I found this in an antique store a few years ago for $5 (when silver was $40). ~1.3 oz of silver if I recall. I never knew that there was a patron saint of numismatics. Finally imaging this...anyone know anything about it?



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  • blu62vetteblu62vette Posts: 11,934 ✭✭✭✭✭


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  • ChrisH821ChrisH821 Posts: 6,646 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Pictures aren't showing up for me.

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  • TopographicOceansTopographicOceans Posts: 6,535 ✭✭✭✭
    I don't know anything about the coin, but I looked him up.

    I know I've bought some coins that I should have consulted him on. image

    Saint Eligius (also Eloy or Loye) (French: Éloi) (c. 588 – 1 December 660) is the patron saint of goldsmiths, other metalworkers, and coin collectors. He is also the patron saint of veterinarians, the Royal Electrical and Mechanical Engineers (REME), a corps of the British Army, but he is best known for being the patron saint of horses and those who work with them.
  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Well that is different...have not seen that piece before... Cheers, RickO
  • MidLifeCrisisMidLifeCrisis Posts: 10,550 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I have one in bronze, like this one -



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    Here's some history, courtesy of forum member CoinHusker:



    Eligius, sometimes known also as Eloi or Aloyisius, was born around 588 A.D. near Limoges, France. His parents, Eucherius and Terrigia, were Romans. Like his father, Eligius became a skilled metalsmith. After his apprenticeship in Limoges ended, he moved to Paris, where he soon came to the attention of King Clotaire II, who asked Eligius to make him a throne. With the materials provided, Eligius was so skillful and honest that he reportedly made two thrones instead of one. The King was so impressed that he made Eligius Master of the Mint. After Clotaire's death in 629, Eligius was appointed first counselor to Dagobert I, Clotaire's son and successor. Dagobert shared his father's trust in Eligius, and gave Eligius an estate in Limousin. Eligius used the estate to establish a monastery. Dagobert also gave Eligius a house in Paris, which Eligius converted into a nunnery to be presided over by Saint Aurea.



    Eligius had been living under Irish monastic rule for some time, and when Dagobert died in 640 he entered the priesthood. His preaching won many converts, and eventually he became a bishop. Throughout his active pastoral life, he continued to practice his craft of metalsmithing. As Eligius' reputation as a metalsmith continued to grow, he became quite wealthy. He gave away a lot of his money to the poor. He bought slaves for the sole purpose of setting them free. He also built several churches.



    The best-known legend about Eligius involves an ill-tempered horse (some sources say it was demonically possessed), which Eligius was trying to fit with shoes. Eligius detached the horse's legs, shod the hooves, and miraculously restored the legs to the horse. This technique was one he said he had been taught by Christ, who had performed it while disguised as an apprentice in Eligius' own workshop, in order to humble the proud blacksmith who had dared to claim that he was "master of all masters".



    Eligius died on December 1, 660, at the age of 71, and his remains are in the Cathedral at Noyon. He is the patron saint of metalworkers, jewelers, farriers, numismatists, garage mechanics, and taxi drivers. He is also the namesake for the fictional hospital in the television show "St. Elsewhere." In Christian art, he is usually depicted in his episcopal regalia, with a crosier in his right hand and a miniature gold church on the open palm of his left hand. His feast day is December 1.



  • BoosibriBoosibri Posts: 12,335 ✭✭✭✭✭
    MLC, do yon know anything about the medal?
  • COCollectorCOCollector Posts: 1,343 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Aside from religious stuff, the only modern St Eligius medal I could find is from the Austrian Mint: https://www.muenzeoes............xt=eligius



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    Point is, I suspect the OP's medal is rare -- and especially interesting, given its subject and the octagon shape.

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  • JulianJulian Posts: 3,370 ✭✭✭
    These medals were produced by Phil Lampkin, Washington Coin Exchange, Washington, DC in the late 1960's.
    PNG member, numismatic dealer since 1965. Operates a retail store, also has exhibited at over 1000 shows.
    I firmly believe in numismatics as the world's greatest hobby, but recognize that this is a luxury and without collectors, we can all spend/melt our collections/inventories.

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  • MidLifeCrisisMidLifeCrisis Posts: 10,550 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: Julian

    These medals were produced by Phil Lampkin, Washington Coin Exchange, Washington, DC in the late 1960's.




    Here's a link to an E-Sylum article about the medal, which also notes what Julian posted.



    Here's the E-Sylum article referred to by the article above.



    I searched for more via Google and found a few other things of interest about St. Eligius, but nothing more about the medal.
  • ElKevvoElKevvo Posts: 4,130 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I like that piece...thanks for posting!



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  • stevebensteveben Posts: 4,623 ✭✭✭✭✭
    i see no pictures
  • cecropiamothcecropiamoth Posts: 969 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm missing the pictures too. Strange that some can see them and others not. I would be interested in seeing the medal.



    Jeff
  • COCollectorCOCollector Posts: 1,343 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The photos don't show in the 1st post. But I see them in the 2nd post by blu62vette.



    Are you saying you don't see ANY photos in the entire thread?

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  • derrybderryb Posts: 37,462 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Photos are too large. their width carries them beyond the right margin of the page resulting in the cutting off of the right margin of forum text. No left or right scroll bar at bottom to slide right hand of page into view. Reducing text size in browser setting eventually bring full right side of page into view but small text size makes it unreadable.

    Have noticed this problem in other threads where pic is wider than page text. Using chrome browser. Anyone else not this viewing problem or know how to resolve.

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  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,472 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Makes Saint Gaudens look like an amateur, in light of things.
  • cecropiamothcecropiamoth Posts: 969 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I am seeing photos inside this thread, however cannot see the photos in either of the first two posts (Boosibri's and blu62vette's). They appear as little boxes.
  • BoosibriBoosibri Posts: 12,335 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thanks for the info all... I still have not been able to find another of the silver medals listed anywhere. Not convinced that they have much numismatic value but hey, it's cool
  • TPRCTPRC Posts: 3,811 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Agree...very cool..and informative thread.

    Tom

  • machoponchomachoponcho Posts: 355 ✭✭✭
    Thank you for posting this. I'm a decently serious Catholic and never heard of this saint. Neat medals in this thread.
    I have existed since the creation of this world and will exist until its end. Only my form will change. For these 80 human life years, I have the benefit of having a functioning body and consciousness. I will not waste this opportunity.
  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,472 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Is there any truth to the rumor that Sister Mary Yardstick was canonized as the saint of paddles used in auctions ?


    Just kidding. Forgive me.
  • COCollectorCOCollector Posts: 1,343 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: TwoSides2aCoin

    ...Is there any truth to the rumor that Sister Mary Yardstick was canonized as the saint of paddles used in auctions ?



    Just kidding. Forgive me.




    CLICK HERE FOR THE VERDICT

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  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,472 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Haha COCollector. Thanks for that.
  • mr1931Smr1931S Posts: 6,366 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I call this "the church with no walls." Visiting this church again is on my bucket list.This is St. Aloysius church,the only structure that was allowed to remain standing when the buildings in the mining town of Morely,Colorado were torn down:image

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