What do you think of this raw 1901-S 50c?

Boosibri · January 22, 2016 5:15PM

Now PCGS AU50: 1901-S

lordmarcovan · January 22, 2016 6:17PM

I'm right-down-the-middle neutral on this one.

It's not bad at all. It's not great, either. It's OK.

291fifth · January 22, 2016 6:34PM

I don't like it. Rim damage evident on the obverse. Reverse does not look completely original (Though that might just be because of the photo).

Boosibri · January 22, 2016 6:43PM

Originally posted by: lordmarcovan

I'm right-down-the-middle neutral on this one.

It's not bad at all. It's not great, either. It's OK.

My feelings exactly. Bought raw in Spain.

coinkat · January 22, 2016 8:06PM

At the right price it makes sense, It would look good in a 7070 collection in an album.

lordmarcovan · January 22, 2016 8:10PM

Originally posted by: coinkat

At the right price it makes sense, It would look good in a 7070 collection in an album.

But for any circ below AU, I'd rather have one with more of that original grey skin. And fewer marks, of course.

TopographicOceans · January 22, 2016 8:43PM

The eagle's got the dark eye of evil

amwldcoin · January 22, 2016 9:32PM

Is the reeding on the edge flattened? Reverse Rim has that beveled look like it might of been in a belt buckle or something similar.

MFH · January 22, 2016 9:47PM

Looked it over throughly, and I don't think it will straight grade.

Not to say, I wouldn't mind having it in my Barber Half Dansco album.

Really not all that terrible a coin ( for the right price ) !

Boosibri · January 22, 2016 11:18PM

Price was worth it even if it doesn't straight grade. Will send it in once I land back in the US next week and will report back.

7Jaguars · January 22, 2016 11:20PM

Wow, that is some nitpicking there. That is a nice, honest coin and not one of those IMO fakey looking hyper graded bits that we see. I see the areas pointed out but feel them overstated really. Some of these coins "recaptured" from Europe have this look, and frankly I rather like it, especially price-dependent. Don't know if we are allowed to guess, but I would not be surprised if you got it for VF money.I like it.

mercurydimeguy · January 22, 2016 11:36PM

Surprised by the derogatory feedback. What do people expect circulated coins to look like? They sit in drawers and piggy banks and pockets and cash drawers and change purses. And they have dirt and wear

Anyhow, I would not kick this coin out of my collection, and while one can always find a nicer coin (unless your are hunting Moby Dick), this is a nice circulated example of this issue.

I don't see any reason whatsoever why this coin wouldn't straight grade, around XF range, and I'm sure if you posted this coin in the holder already most would be singing its praises.

Also, people forget that when you take something and blow it up to the size of a beach ball, you will see everything that would be impossible to see with the naked eye...so I don't understand the fuss. One looks at a coin with the naked eye first, to enjoy it, the loop is only necessary to grade the coin (and even at that, not always).

My 10 cents on this topic

Walkerguy21D · January 22, 2016 11:58PM

I have to side with MFH - if he says it won't straight grade, he is probably right.

Tough coin at this grade level regardless of the flaws, but the real money in these are in the pristine examples in PCGS holders.

Boosi - you do seem to have a real knack for finding scarce coins overseas...now if you post an 01S quarter that came

with this one, I will really be impressed!

Boosibri · January 23, 2016 12:04AM

Originally posted by: Walkerguy21D

I have to side with MFH - if he says it won't straight grade, he is probably right.

Tough coin at this grade level regardless of the flaws, but the real money in these are in the pristine examples in PCGS holders.

Boosi - you do seem to have a real knack for finding scarce coins overseas...now if you post an 01S quarter that came

with this one, I will really be impressed!

Well I live there and hit shops every time I travel for business

kaz · January 23, 2016 12:11AM

Looks like a nice EF to me. My only concern is if there is significant edge damage not seen in the photos. (thought of that because of the rim marks, which of themselves don't look too bad).

Boosibri · January 23, 2016 12:13AM

No significant edge damage but the visible rim is a bit rough as shown

DeepCoin · January 23, 2016 12:38AM

It seems to be an honest circulated coin, blown up to the size of a trash can lid. The flaws are always magnified with pictures of this size. I would go with the OPs opinion in hand, down the middle coin. And of course if bought right, that always makes the coin better!

ricko · January 23, 2016 12:40AM

I would be happy with that coin (at a reasonable price)... I think it will grade...

Cheers, RickO

golden · January 23, 2016 4:36AM

Originally posted by: lordmarcovan
I'm right-down-the-middle neutral on this one.

It's not bad at all. It's not great, either. It's OK.

Baley · January 23, 2016 4:40AM

I like it very much, at a fair price. In fact, I like every single coin at the right price.

I'm always baffled at folks who say they don't like every coin they see, and wouldn't own any of them, at any price.

Maybe they just don't like coins

Boosibri · January 23, 2016 4:56AM

What do you all think a grade would be if it were to straight grade?

mercurydimeguy · January 23, 2016 4:58AM

Originally posted by: Boosibri

What do you all think a grade would be if it were to straight grade?

XF45

Walkerguy21D · January 23, 2016 5:12AM

Looks like AU 50 detail, but probably not enough luster to warrant AU, on top of the other minor issues - so I agree with XF45.

kaz · January 23, 2016 5:23AM

45 imho.

MFH · January 23, 2016 6:07AM

Without any issues, I could see it in a 53 holder.

coinkat · January 23, 2016 6:24AM

In the AU spectrum- tough call as the image may not capture the lustre-

amwldcoin · January 23, 2016 6:42AM

With all the comments...does the edge still have normal reeding? If it does I give it a 50-50 shot of going 45. I've had coins detail for a scratch not as bad as the one from I to Liberty's cap. The surfaces look to abraided to warrant an AU grade to me.

Boosibri · January 23, 2016 6:59AM

Originally posted by: amwldcoin

With all the comments...does the edge still have normal reeding? If it does I give it a 50-50 shot of going 45. I've had coins detail for a scratch not as bad as the one from I to Liberty's cap. The surfaces look to abraided to warrant an AU grade to me.

Edge still has normal reeding. The marks at 2 o'clock are exaggerated but present. The bump at 7 o'clock is clear but in isolation is not worthy of a BB.

FWIW I'd call it a 45 though the luster is there for a 50 I think. I paid XF details money so it was worth the shot.

PTVETTER · January 23, 2016 8:37AM

If you are looking for a perfect coin, this is not the one. However you will never find the perfect coin anyway.

Barber coinage with this much meat isn't common.

jdimmick · January 23, 2016 9:17AM

That coin will straight grade with no problem probably a 45 at min a 40

BustHalfBrian · January 23, 2016 9:43AM

AU53,

AU50 on a bad day

Desert Moon · January 23, 2016 11:46AM

Not a coin that I would have in my collection, looks like the surfaces are lifeless........... But who knows, in hand it might be better.

Best, SH

mannie gray · January 23, 2016 1:42PM

I don't mind it all.

To me, it's a 50+/53 that would net to a 45.

lkeigwin · January 23, 2016 1:57PM

Looks like a solid 45 to me and AU wouldn't shock me.

I don't see any reason it shouldn't straight-grade.

Lance.

Boosibri · February 24, 2016 2:13PM

ttt

lordmarcovan · February 24, 2016 4:33PM

FWIW, in returning to this thread and viewing the coin a second time, I'd have to say my second impression of it is just a tiny bit more positive than the first time.

Congrats on the straight grade. I'm really not that surprised that it made it.

amwldcoin · February 24, 2016 10:41PM

This is quite frustrating to me. The standards are getting looser and looser. Just look at some of the newly graded Barbers being listed on ebay. Many should not be graded at all! In my opinion this coin is a classic example of what I am talking about. I do agree it has AU details.

DollarAfterDollar · February 24, 2016 10:47PM

Looks good to me.

CoinRaritiesOnline · February 24, 2016 11:05PM

XF45.

Wabbit2313 · February 24, 2016 11:08PM

Sweet! Do the coin shops in spain understand US coins or was it dirt cheap?

IrishMikey · February 24, 2016 11:33PM

I missed this thread the first time around. Looking at the coin now, with the knowledge that it is in an AU-50 holder, I have to agree with our hosts. It is obviously an AU by remaining details, so the only question is if the marks and remaining luster are enough to "net" grade it down to an EF-45.

There are many here that would rather have a choice EF-45 with attractive color than an
AU-50 without color and rougher surfaces. Often the two coins will sell for similar prices. No
harm either way.

As others have stated, coming up with an accurate grade using images only is never easy, especially when the images are huge. Just as a suggestion, when posting images like these, it might be helpful to many here if a normal-sized set of images was also included. Helps to put the overall appearance into context.

Boosibri · February 25, 2016 12:06AM

Originally posted by: IrishMikey

I missed this thread the first time around. Looking at the coin now, with the knowledge that it is in an AU-50 holder, I have to agree with our hosts. It is obviously an AU by remaining details, so the only question is if the marks and remaining luster are enough to "net" grade it down to an EF-45.

There are many here that would rather have a choice EF-45 with attractive color than an

AU-50 without color and rougher surfaces. Often the two coins will sell for similar prices. No

harm either way.

As others have stated, coming up with an accurate grade using images only is never easy, especially when the images are huge. Just as a suggestion, when posting images like these, it might be helpful to many here if a normal-sized set of images was also included. Helps to put the overall appearance into context.

Interesting, all of my devices are apple products and automatically resize images. Posting bigger images leads to better resolutions in my case. Will consider changing.

Boosibri · February 25, 2016 12:07AM

Originally posted by: Wabbit2313

Sweet! Do the coin shops in spain understand US coins or was it dirt cheap?

Paid low VF money

IrishMikey · February 25, 2016 12:12AM

Originally posted by: Boosibri

Originally posted by: IrishMikey
I missed this thread the first time around. Looking at the coin now, with the knowledge that it is in an AU-50 holder, I have to agree with our hosts. It is obviously an AU by remaining details, so the only question is if the marks and remaining luster are enough to "net" grade it down to an EF-45.

There are many here that would rather have a choice EF-45 with attractive color than an
AU-50 without color and rougher surfaces. Often the two coins will sell for similar prices. No
harm either way.

As others have stated, coming up with an accurate grade using images only is never easy, especially when the images are huge. Just as a suggestion, when posting images like these, it might be helpful to many here if a normal-sized set of images was also included. Helps to put the overall appearance into context.

Interesting, all of my devices are apple products and automatically resize images. Posting bigger images leads to better resolutions in my case. Will consider changing.

Don't get me wrong, I LOVE the bigger images, but it appears that some forum members have a hard time translating an 8 inch diameter image to the coin's real size.

I did not know that Apple did that. Interesting that a bigger image would have better resolution. I have much to learn.

asheland · February 26, 2016 1:45AM

Great coin!

What do you think of this raw 1901-S 50c?

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