This doesn't look too bad at first glance.

Flatwoods · January 20, 2016 1:39AM

Ebay of course

commoncents05 · January 20, 2016 1:46AM

I don't understand what you're implying? Looks like a cleaned coin silently net graded. Do you think it's counterfeit?

-Paul

brg5658 · January 20, 2016 1:57AM

Coin looks fine (well, what I can see given the shoddy pictures).

It may be an old cleaning net graded (as commoncents noted), but I don't see any red-flags...

Slab looks fine (from the 1990-95 era).

Care to expand on your concerns a bit?

CaptHenway · January 20, 2016 2:07AM

Hard to tell from those pictures, but looks like a cleaned AU. I would be suspicious of the whole thing also.

Flatwoods · January 20, 2016 2:16AM

I couldn't say for sure what. It surely doesn't look like a VF 30 coin.

I wouldn't touch it.

oih82w8 · January 20, 2016 4:01AM

It seems to be ok...if you only glance at it and not too intently. If you plan on looking more frequently at...pass.

CommemKing · January 20, 2016 4:03AM

Looks legit. Looks like it could have graded higher, but I agree that it might have "net" graded.

BustHalfBrian · January 20, 2016 4:11AM

Nothing wrong here. The coin is real, and a real dog.

grip · January 20, 2016 4:38AM

Something going on with the cross leg of the four. Maybe?

mariner67 · January 20, 2016 4:41AM

Looks legit.
Seller has lots of feedback with no negatives.
What are you implying?

johnny9434 · January 20, 2016 5:13AM

looks to me like some sort of cleaning or something. pass

TommyType · January 20, 2016 8:14AM

Wonder if this might be the "poster child" for why silent net grading isn't a particularly good idea?

A grader with even minimum experience sees that technically, it's better than the holder says, so alarms go off creating confusion.

I never really liked silent netting. Sure, you get the coin closer to it's VALUE that way, but it tends to water-down what grading is all about.

Of course, back in the green label days, PCGS didn't give themselves the option of explicitly netting a grade. It was either pass or fail, and this one was maybe viewed as a tweener.

BillJones · January 20, 2016 8:15AM

The serial number 2926491 does not generate a link on the PCGS certification verification site. That says PASS to me in bold letters.

Rampage · January 20, 2016 8:21AM

Originally posted by: BillJones
The serial number 2926491 does not generate a link on the PCGS certification verification site. That says PASS to me in bold letters.

That's because you entered the incorrect cert number. The correct number is 9296491.

roadrunner · January 20, 2016 1:44PM

The "8" in the date looks funky. Maybe it's the angle the photo was taken at?

jesbroken · January 21, 2016 1:35AM

Being unfamiliar with this "net" grading, I have a question. On the older coins, do they "net" grade due to a cleaning without saying so on the label? Do they allow other marred features and then allow the coin to pass with a lower "net" grade? Is this a common practice on all coins or just older ones? I had heard they were a little more lenient with the older coins due to the length of time the coins have been in circulation, but not "net" grading. Thanks for this information.

Jim

lkeigwin · January 21, 2016 1:48AM

Originally posted by: roadrunner

The "8" in the date looks funky. Maybe it's the angle the photo was taken at?

I think it's the angle. Notice too that the cert characters do not appear as tall as they should be for this slab type. Everything would look proper with a square shot.

Lance.

lkeigwin · January 21, 2016 2:43AM

Originally posted by: jesbroken

Being unfamiliar with this "net" grading, I have a question. On the older coins, do they "net" grade due to a cleaning without saying so on the label? Do they allow other marred features and then allow the coin to pass with a lower "net" grade? Is this a common practice on all coins or just older ones? I had heard they were a little more lenient with the older coins due to the length of time the coins have been in circulation, but not "net" grading. Thanks for this information.

Jim

Net grading and market grading are sometimes used interchangeably though they are not exactly the same. Any coin may be net graded (usually down) when the TPG deems it to be over all acceptable but with an unfortunate issue(s). Some problem with the surfaces, e.g. Porosity or light corrosion on old copper. A washed out appearance from over-dipping silver. An old, toned-over scratch. A "busy" look from excessive hits. A significant dig or a major distraction in the focal area.

Market grading goes both ways but is less technical and more subjective. It is usually an appearance issue. Remarkably pretty toning or luster, or perfect surfaces, might earn the coin a grade bump. Splotchy, irregular unattractive toning might drop it. It is called market grading because it is based on the coin's value, as perceived by the TPG. Some folks believe that market grading is also influenced by collector demand (what's hot) but I really don't get that.

Lance.

AMRC · January 21, 2016 2:47AM

The coin is not VF, is genuine and it has been cleaned.

robertpr · January 21, 2016 3:13AM

From the pictures, it appears that it's been polished.

oih82w8 · January 21, 2016 3:24AM

Originally posted by: BillJones

The serial number 2926491 does not generate a link on the PCGS certification verification site. That says PASS to me in bold letters.

Not even with a zero in front of the Cert Number...nada...pass.

lkeigwin · January 21, 2016 3:50AM

PCGS didn't use a 0 before the 7 digit number for that era holders.

Lance.

jesbroken · January 21, 2016 8:01AM

Thanks Lance for the info. I had heard of market grading but thought net grading was only for coins damaged and was net graded after being rejected. My bad.

Jim

LindeDad · January 21, 2016 8:29AM

Body bags were still used when it was graded, certain issues on certain coins got a ride sometimes.

lordmarcovan · January 21, 2016 3:56PM

Yeah, net-graded for the overdipped appearance and other minor flaws, would be my guess. Not atypical for the series, so maybe it got a ride, as LindeDad just said.

This doesn't look too bad at first glance.

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