1964 10c Pointed 9 PR68DC

bigdoghood · January 19, 2016 2:11PM

I sent some Accented hair 1/2$ in for Grading with the pointed 9 dime. The dime was Graded in PR68 Deep Cameo but failed to add the Pointed 9 on the slab. Can I send them back to have the Pointed 9 added to the slab? Also any ideas on what the value would be? I see alot of 67Cams not so many 68DC's.

Thanks

Rick

RickyRacer / M.E.Stewart Collection Registrys

TopographicOceans · January 19, 2016 2:24PM

Rick

I believe you have to submit it with the variety attribution and pay an extra $18 for the service.

I'm certain someone will come along and explain the details who has done it before.

Welcome the Forum.

davewesen · January 19, 2016 10:48PM

Pcgs does not offer 'pointed 9' designation on their slabs. The other 3 services will, but variety fees may apply. For PCGS to designate a variety or die, it must be in one of their approved books like CPG.

It is my understanding the proof pointed 9 is much more common than the AH half, and does not demand a premium. The business strike pointed 9's for 1964 have a lower frequency in the population.

oih82w8 · January 19, 2016 11:13PM

The only Variety that PCGS recognizes at this time for Proof 1964 Dimes is the 1964 10C DDO FS-101

NGC does differentiate between the Blunt and Pointed 9, but only as a description, not a variety plus (VP) number

ricko · January 19, 2016 11:32PM

Welcome aboard Rick...are you collecting AH halves? I have quite a few myself and

pick them up when I see them.... usually a cherrypick.... Cheers, RickO

TopographicOceans · January 20, 2016 12:27AM

But what about this?

oih82w8 · January 20, 2016 12:39AM

That one is Mint State and not a Proof, as mentioned in the OP. It says it all "Minor Variety". PCGS uses this whenever something is there but does not have a FS, Overton, etc... number assigned to it...hence the "V" with the ordinary 1964 dime number 5129.

I have a couple of "Minor Varieties" myself which I thought were slam dunks; 1853 50C DDR "Minor Variety" and a 1936-D San Diego QDO "Minor Variety".

It does not identify the "variety" on the certification lookup.

Coinstudy · January 20, 2016 1:27AM

Have there been 1964 pointed 9 proofs?

oih82w8 · January 20, 2016 3:32AM

According to NGC, there have been a couple of thousand;

1964 POINTED 9 10C

Variety Diagnostics

The tail of numeral 9 comes to a rounded point.

NGC Population Report

Grade PF PFCA PFUC

64 2 1

65 16 11 2

66 228 34 9

67 1749 116 19

68 864 88 17

69 449 51 27

70

Total 3308 301 74

https://www.ngccoin.c............nid=2031&/

The Blunt or Non-rounded have quite a bit less identified at NGC (a skosh more than a hundred)

1964 BLUNT 9 10C

Variety Diagnostics

The tail of numeral 9 is squared off.

NGC Population Report

Grade PF PFCA PFUC

64 1

65 1 2

66 10 4

67 43 8 7

68 19 5 5

69 17 9 7

70

Total 91 28 19

https://www.ngccoin.com/coi......-blunt-9-10c-2029/

ProofArtworkonCircs · January 20, 2016 9:29AM

Isn't the pointed dime normal for the AH half sets?

davewesen · January 20, 2016 10:05AM

Originally posted by: Coinstudy
Have there been 1964 pointed 9 proofs?

Found in all sets containing AH halves, and also a whole bunch more.

bigdoghood · January 21, 2016 5:42PM

Yes I have only found the Pointed 9 in the AH sets. Proofs. The Blunt and Pointed MS is really random. The Pointed 9 proof is Much Rarer than his sister Blunt Proof.

Thanks for all the feedback.

oih82w8 · January 21, 2016 8:19PM

Originally posted by: bigdoghood

Yes I have only found the Pointed 9 in the AH sets. Proofs. The Blunt and Pointed MS is really random. The Pointed 9 proof is Much Rarer than his sister Blunt Proof.

Thanks for all the feedback.

I am not sure about PCGS, but the Pointed 9 is much more common in NGC than the Blunt 9 as I posted a couple replies above;

Pointed 9

PF - 3308

PFCA - 301

PFUC - 74

Total - 3683

Blunt 9 Total

PF - 91

PFCA - 28

PFUC - 19

Total - 138

Cameonut · January 21, 2016 9:49PM

Originally posted by: bigdoghood

Yes I have only found the Pointed 9 in the AH sets. Proofs. The Blunt and Pointed MS is really random. The Pointed 9 proof is Much Rarer than his sister Blunt Proof.

Thanks for all the feedback.

I agree. I have only found pointed nine proof dimes in Accented Hair sets - but not always. The best odds are when you find the corrugated envelopes....

I have also had several pointed nine dimes slabbed - but never attributed. Sold a PCGS 68dcam in an OGH a couple of years ago - didn't get much of a premium. (probably more for the old holder than the fact it was a pointed nine).

This variety doesn't get much respect - mostly because it isn't listed in the Cherrypickers Guide.

And as far as the populations go, I'd expect to see more pointed nine dimes in holders. Why slab a common 1964 proof unless it was a high grade moose dcam? Blunt 9 proofs are very common.

1964 10c Pointed 9 PR68DC

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