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ProofmorganProofmorgan Posts: 966 ✭✭✭✭✭
Please enlarge the true views (full size) of these two coins and give me your opinions. Worthiness of grade? Overall look? Issues? Strike? Hits? Whatever comes to mind....

#25642988

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#31621296
Collector of Original Early Gold with beginnings in Proof Morgan collecting.

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    keyman64keyman64 Posts: 15,650 ✭✭✭✭✭
    MS67 - LINK TO COIN

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    The other cert# does not work
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    TomBTomB Posts: 23,094 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Let's see if I can add links to make this easier-



    25642988



    The second number does not come up yet using cert verification.
    Thomas Bush Numismatics & Numismatic Photography

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    keyman64keyman64 Posts: 15,650 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That green and red 1837 H10 is pretty but clearly has hits on the obv

    that were toned over. Not my series though.
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    oih82w8oih82w8 Posts: 13,127 ✭✭✭✭✭
    everybody was thinking alike with the posting of the image and the "other serial number" which does not work.
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    BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Not a fan of this tru-view as it looks like a AU Details coin with the lackluster reverse centers which seem cleaned and re-toned.
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    Jackthecat1Jackthecat1 Posts: 1,122 ✭✭✭
    As a big fan of Gobrecht's original design, I am sure this little jewel looks wonderful in hand.
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    ProofmorganProofmorgan Posts: 966 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Sorry guys, the 2nd cert is not working for some reason. I do have first hand knowledge the coin exists in that holder with that number. Here is a link to the coinfacts page. The first image is the image posted in the thread and the second is the other coin with the cert number listed in the OP. Glitch with PCGS I guess.

    1837 H10 # 31621296
    Collector of Original Early Gold with beginnings in Proof Morgan collecting.
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    roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,374 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Just with that horizontal field scrape/gouge coming off Liberty's right elbow, then I don't see it as any better than a lower end MS67. I wouldn't be comfortable buying it as a 67 considering how fussy PCGS is on half dime field marks. MS67's usually look flawless. Some light marks in the right obv field too. Reverse looks ok.



    The 2nd specimen on that last link is much cleaner. Now that looks like an all there, solid MS67, maybe even a higher end specimen. The mushy denticles on each side could be considered a distraction to some. No comparison between those two imo. I like the overall look, cleanliness, and eye appeal of the 2nd (Coin Facts) specimen. There's possibly a fingerprint remnant in the right obv field but it's nicely blended. I'd be a proud owner of that one.



    Interesting that 9 MS67's and 2 MS68's have been stickered for this type. That sort of suggests about half from each service.



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    PKingPKing Posts: 37 ✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: roadrunner
    Just with that horizontal field scrape/gouge coming off Liberty's right elbow, then I don't see it as any better than a lower end MS67. I wouldn't be comfortable buying it as a 67 considering how fussy PCGS is on half dimes. MS67's usually look flawless. Some light marks in the right obv field too. Reverse looks ok.

    The 2nd specimen on that last link is much cleaner. Now that looks like an all there, solid MS67, maybe even a higher end specimen. The mushy denticles on each side could be considered a distraction to some. No comparison between those two imo. I like the overall look, cleanliness, and eye appeal of the 2nd (Coin Facts) specimen. There's possibly a fingerprint remnant in the right obv field but it's nicely blended.


    The OP coin and the 2nd specimen in coinfacts are the same coin, just different pictures if im not mistaken.
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    roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,374 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: PKing

    The OP coin and the 2nd specimen in coinfacts are the same coin, just different pictures if im not mistaken.




    The first picture on the Coin Facts page is the same coin. And that field hit looks much more "significant" in that enlarged photo. Look to right of it on that same page for a totally different PCGS MS67.



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    PKingPKing Posts: 37 ✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: roadrunner
    Originally posted by: PKing
    The OP coin and the 2nd specimen in coinfacts are the same coin, just different pictures if im not mistaken.


    The first picture on the Coin Facts page is the same coin. And that field hit looks much more "significant" in that enlarged photo. Look to right of it on that same page for a totally different PCGS MS67.



    Ah, thank you for clarifying.
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    oih82w8oih82w8 Posts: 13,127 ✭✭✭✭✭
    They both look good to me, but I stop scrutinizing once I saw the "values' of these two.
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    ProofmorganProofmorgan Posts: 966 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Ttt
    Collector of Original Early Gold with beginnings in Proof Morgan collecting.
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    BoosibriBoosibri Posts: 12,694 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Which do you own?
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    roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,374 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: Boosibri

    Which do you own?




    They own the ex-Wabbit2313 MS66+ gold cac coin that just got upgraded to 67 (see earlier post this month). It would appear to be distinctly nicer than 1 of the 2 PCGS MS67 coins pictured in this thread. It has the same obv denticle weakness as one of those. I think it's a tossup between the two best of these 3 - they both look very similar to me.



    PCGS shows 8 of these in MS67 (both varieties) and a MS68. So it would seem there's probably more than just 3 of these remaining in MS67 holders. The PCGS price guide only shows a jump of 13% from a 67 to 67+. So that's a very small range....probably because there's already a MS68 priced. Even the jump from 67 to 68 is on the smaller side at +60%.



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    ProofmorganProofmorgan Posts: 966 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I own the nicer one as described by roadrunner. The other was an Ex NGC 67 that somehow crossed. The hits on that coin make it look like a 66 without a doubt. It is far below the quality of the other 67s graded. I was just trying to get the coin into a 67+ holder so it could be a 1/0 coin rather than a 4/0 coin. Based on the Ex. NGC coin, I would hope they would give mine a 67+. I'm going to give it a shot at the next show in Baltimore.
    Collector of Original Early Gold with beginnings in Proof Morgan collecting.
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    BoosibriBoosibri Posts: 12,694 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Be sure to request the ex. Wabbit2313 to be added as the provenance for the holder.
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    seateddimeseateddime Posts: 6,180 ✭✭✭
    The eye appeal is very nice.
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    amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Maybe you should let Wabbit send it in! image

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