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I got my regrade results for my 1796 $1

For those of you playing along at home, I wanted to reholder a coin that had sticker residue (most likely from Heritage) that I posted in a thread a while ago.


Since it cost a lot to ship it back, I decided to do a regrade instead of a reholder along with a TrueView. The total was $80.95 vs sixty-something.


It went in as a 35 and came out the same


Oh well, I've got a nice new holder and a TrueView and the grade remained the same.


Old holder:

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  • BarndogBarndog Posts: 20,516 ✭✭✭✭✭
    regrade can be well worth the reholder price difference
  • AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 24,946 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That is GOOD news, that it didn't go down...



    My one shot at a new holder and new grade was a bust out 64 that came back 63+....ugh.



    There was no much risk on yours.....sold for the grade.



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  • TomBTomB Posts: 22,097 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The rim appears rather "busy" on that coin, what does it look like in-hand?
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  • DollarAfterDollarDollarAfterDollar Posts: 3,215 ✭✭✭✭✭
    PlastX would have saved you $90.
    If you do what you always did, you get what you always got.
  • BoosibriBoosibri Posts: 12,418 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: DollarAfterDollar

    PlastX would have saved you $90.




    Soap and water would have also saved the $90
  • davewesendavewesen Posts: 6,691 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I use Goo Gone - but do not get TruViews

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  • TopographicOceansTopographicOceans Posts: 6,535 ✭✭✭✭
    Sounds like magic stuff image
  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,710 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think you were very lucky that it did not come back as "genuine" due to the edge problems. I'm surprised you took the chance of sending it in.
    All glory is fleeting.
  • TopographicOceansTopographicOceans Posts: 6,535 ✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: 291fifth
    I think you were very lucky that it did not come back as "genuine" due to the edge problems. I'm surprised you took the chance of sending it in.

    It was a regrade, so there were only three possible outcomes:

    1) It grades the same

    2) It grades higher

    3) PCGS buys it back (a lower or genuine grade)

  • abcde12345abcde12345 Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭✭✭
    You done there got gypped.

    That rim damage (worse case) or rim dents (best case) could have kept this out of a slab, period.



    That deep mark in front of the nose is somewhat troublesome too.

    Plus the light cleaning.



    Overall, better examples in the market place for those who are a little more patient.
  • TopographicOceansTopographicOceans Posts: 6,535 ✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: abcde12345
    You done there got gypped.
    That rim damage (worse case) or rim dents (best case) could have kept this out of a slab, period.

    That deep mark in front of the nose is somewhat troublesome too.
    Plus the light cleaning.

    Overall, better examples in the market place for those who are a little more patient.

    I know. Where were you when I was buying this?
    You could haved saved me from a $8,000 loss.
  • robertprrobertpr Posts: 6,862 ✭✭✭
    Do NOT use Goo Gone; it MELTS plastic.
  • Originally posted by: robertpr
    Do NOT use Goo Gone; it MELTS plastic.


    I use goo gone all of the time with no issues at all. It does not melt plastic.


    merse

  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,710 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: TopographicOceans
    Originally posted by: 291fifth
    I think you were very lucky that it did not come back as "genuine" due to the edge problems. I'm surprised you took the chance of sending it in.

    It was a regrade, so there were only three possible outcomes:

    1) It grades the same

    2) It grades higher

    3) PCGS buys it back (a lower or genuine grade)



    If it were to have been bought back, how would price have been determined?

    All glory is fleeting.
  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,850 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: robertpr
    Do NOT use Goo Gone; it MELTS plastic.


    I have never had an issue with Goo Gone, but if you have some REAL issues with scratches, the headlight polisher works great. I saved big time on a slab for an 1856-S gold dollar that I thought would need to re-holdered.


    As for this 1796 dollar, the only spot that would bother me, given that it is a VF-35, is the rim mark on the reverse at 4K. The other stuff is what you might find on a circulated old coin.

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  • CoinRaritiesOnlineCoinRaritiesOnline Posts: 3,681 ✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: robertpr

    Do NOT use Goo Gone; it MELTS plastic.




    Used it for years, never had any problem whatsoever.



  • TopographicOceansTopographicOceans Posts: 6,535 ✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: 291fifth
    Originally posted by: TopographicOceans
    Originally posted by: 291fifth
    I think you were very lucky that it did not come back as "genuine" due to the edge problems. I'm surprised you took the chance of sending it in.

    It was a regrade, so there were only three possible outcomes:

    1) It grades the same

    2) It grades higher

    3) PCGS buys it back (a lower or genuine grade)



    If it were to have been bought back, how would price have been determined?


    I do not know. I assume it would have something to do with what you paid for it.

    I'll ask someone who knows.
  • TopographicOceansTopographicOceans Posts: 6,535 ✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: robertpr
    Do NOT use Goo Gone; it MELTS plastic.

    Goo Gone is good


    Goof Off eats plastic

    As those who remember my earlier thread recall that I proved this by using Goof Off


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  • ColonelJessupColonelJessup Posts: 6,442 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: TopographicOceans
    Originally posted by: robertpr
    Do NOT use Goo Gone; it MELTS plastic.

    Goo Gone is good


    Goof Off eats plastic

    As those who remember my earlier thread recall that I proved this by using Goof Off


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    Goo-Gone is for plastic, and a slab doctor's delight. Goof-Off eats plastic. Just don't image
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  • abcde12345abcde12345 Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: TopographicOceans

    Originally posted by: abcde12345

    You done there got gypped.

    That rim damage (worse case) or rim dents (best case) could have kept this out of a slab, period.



    That deep mark in front of the nose is somewhat troublesome too.

    Plus the light cleaning.



    Overall, better examples in the market place for those who are a little more patient.


    I know. Where were you when I was buying this?

    You could haved saved me from a $8,000 loss.





    Not a total loss. Don't be a sad sack about this. There is still value as it is genuine.

    A good lesson learned and move on.

    You are now better educated and will purchase more wisely in the future.
  • TopographicOceansTopographicOceans Posts: 6,535 ✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: abcde12345
    Originally posted by: TopographicOceans
    Originally posted by: abcde12345
    You done there got gypped.
    That rim damage (worse case) or rim dents (best case) could have kept this out of a slab, period.

    That deep mark in front of the nose is somewhat troublesome too.
    Plus the light cleaning.

    Overall, better examples in the market place for those who are a little more patient.

    I know. Where were you when I was buying this?
    You could haved saved me from a $8,000 loss.


    Not a total loss. Don't be a sad sack about this. There is still value as it is genuine.
    A good lesson learned and move on.
    You are now better educated and will purchase more wisely in the future.
    So what would you pay for it?

  • coindeucecoindeuce Posts: 13,496 ✭✭✭✭✭
    A pint bottle of isopropyl alcohol doesn't cost $81.00. image

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  • VanHalenVanHalen Posts: 4,330 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: TopographicOceans

    Originally posted by: abcde12345

    You done there got gypped.

    That rim damage (worse case) or rim dents (best case) could have kept this out of a slab, period.



    That deep mark in front of the nose is somewhat troublesome too.

    Plus the light cleaning.



    Overall, better examples in the market place for those who are a little more patient.


    I know. Where were you when I was buying this?

    You could haved saved me from a $8,000 loss.





    A $8k loss on a $6k coin? Surely you didn't spend $14k?! Am I missing something?



  • BryceMBryceM Posts: 11,863 ✭✭✭✭✭
    TGO, I'd take some of the negative comments, consider them, and then think about forgetting them. It's OK to be tactfully critical of another person's coin, but it's poor form to trash on it mercilessly, especially when the owner wasn't asking for a critique of the coin.



    As for its quality, you could find a nicer one, but really nice VF small eagle dollars are NOT easy to find. I looked for my example for three or four years, and even then it has some minor rim issues. I like your coin. It isn't perfect, but it has character, shows signs of circulation, and at least three TPG graders who examined it in-hand thought it should grade on two different occasions.



    Thanks for sharing the hard-won information regarding "Goof Off".



    I do hope you didn't pay $8k for it though. That seems a little steep, given past sales and the current market.
  • OperationButterOperationButter Posts: 1,672 ✭✭✭
    I like the coin, thanks for sharing.
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  • Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 11,727 ✭✭✭✭✭
    TGO, I'd take some of the negative comments, consider them, and then think about forgetting them.

    This. it's a coin that many collectors will never own in ANY condition.
    I have my share of tougher large cents in genny holders....I always figure if someone wants to disparage say my 1804 large cent, I'd like to see theirs, assuming they even own one.


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  • abcde12345abcde12345 Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: TopographicOceans

    Originally posted by: abcde12345

    Originally posted by: TopographicOceans

    Originally posted by: abcde12345

    You done there got gypped.

    That rim damage (worse case) or rim dents (best case) could have kept this out of a slab, period.



    That deep mark in front of the nose is somewhat troublesome too.

    Plus the light cleaning.



    Overall, better examples in the market place for those who are a little more patient.


    I know. Where were you when I was buying this?

    You could haved saved me from a $8,000 loss.





    Not a total loss. Don't be a sad sack about this. There is still value as it is genuine.

    A good lesson learned and move on.

    You are now better educated and will purchase more wisely in the future.
    So what would you pay for it?







    5K coin. Loss of $3,000. plus the 80 odd dollars wasted on getting sticky residue off the slab.

  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,313 ✭✭✭✭✭
    So it appears you were disappointed it came back the same grade. Either higher or lower would have helped you out.
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  • TopographicOceansTopographicOceans Posts: 6,535 ✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: roadrunner
    So it appears you were disappointed it came back the same grade. Either higher or lower would have helped you out.
    Sure, but many knowledgable people graded it 40 in this thread.



    And no, I didn't pay $14, $8 or $6k. I was just messing with Timmy.



    There are the opinions of PCGS, those of respected members here, and those of abcde.



    Each is in their own level of knowledge and skill.







  • kazkaz Posts: 9,280 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think it's a very nice looking coin. Looks totally original from what I can see.
  • hchcoinhchcoin Posts: 4,837 ✭✭✭✭✭
    When I look at the coin all I can think is how amazing it is that it survived 219 years in that condition. Who saved it? Where has it been? Did George Washington give it to John Adams as he left office? Did it find its way down to Tennessee in celebration of becoming the 16th state? Did the light scratches and rim dings get there when the last British troops left the U.S. or maybe at the first ever Independence Day celebration? Considering the first U.S. coin was minted in 1792, I find this coin amazingly attractive and historically amazing. If only it could talk..................



  • gripgrip Posts: 9,962 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: hchcoin
    When I look at the coin all I can think is how amazing it is that it survived 219 years in that condition. Who saved it? Where has it been? Did George Washington give it to John Adams as he left office? Did it find its way down to Tennessee in celebration of becoming the 16th state? Did the light scratches and rim dings get there when the last British troops left the U.S. or maybe at the first ever Independence Day celebration? Considering the first U.S. coin was minted in 1792, I find this coin amazingly attractive and historically amazing. If only it could talk..................




    Bingo!

  • abcde12345abcde12345 Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: TopographicOceans

    Originally posted by: roadrunner

    So it appears you were disappointed it came back the same grade. Either higher or lower would have helped you out.
    Sure, but many knowledgable people graded it 40 in this thread.







    And no, I didn't pay $14, $8 or $6k. I was just messing with Timmy.







    There are the opinions of PCGS, those of respected members here, and those of abide.





    ____________________________________________________





    Each is in their own level of knowledge and skill.



    "I was just messing with Timmy" reality read: I was out and out lying.



    Not liking an opinion, or being sad at the outcome isn't the barometer as to right or wrong on the matter.



    And, I will certainly have to learn to live with your disappointment and lack of respect you have for me and others here who don't see eye to eye with your collecting habits or abilities.















  • abcde12345abcde12345 Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: TopographicOceans

    Originally posted by: abcde12345

    You done there got gypped.

    That rim damage (worse case) or rim dents (best case) could have kept this out of a slab, period.



    That deep mark in front of the nose is somewhat troublesome too.

    Plus the light cleaning.



    Overall, better examples in the market place for those who are a little more patient.


    I know. Where were you when I was buying this?

    You could haved saved me from a $8,000 loss.





    Here you state, "could have saved me from an $8,000. loss."

    At minimum, taking you AT YOUR WORD, this coin cost you 8K.



    Later in this thread you state you were just messing around and didn't really pay that amount.



    So, were you lying when you stated what you paid or are you lying now stating in essence that is not what you paid.



    Doesn't make a tremendous difference for this thread, but nice to know when we're being trolled and good to know your written word is next to worthless as it can't be trusted to be truthful.
  • TopographicOceansTopographicOceans Posts: 6,535 ✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: abcde12345
    Originally posted by: TopographicOceans
    Originally posted by: abcde12345
    You done there got gypped.
    That rim damage (worse case) or rim dents (best case) could have kept this out of a slab, period.

    That deep mark in front of the nose is somewhat troublesome too.
    Plus the light cleaning.

    Overall, better examples in the market place for those who are a little more patient.

    I know. Where were you when I was buying this?
    You could haved saved me from a $8,000 loss.


    Here you state, "could have saved me from an $8,000. loss."
    At minimum, taking you AT YOUR WORD, this coin cost you 8K.

    Later in this thread you state you were just messing around and didn't really pay that amount.

    So, were you lying when you stated what you paid or are you lying now stating in essence that is not what you paid.

    Doesn't make a tremendous difference for this thread, but nice to know when we're being trolled and good to know your written word is next to worthless as it can't be trusted to be truthful.

    I know. When you showed up saying I got gypped, I could tell you were just a troll and didn't know what you were talking about. How much did I get gypped? Or don't you have any clue what I paid and just troll threads for attention? What I paid is none of your business, even though you know I got gypped.

    I just treated you with the respect you earned.
    I would ask you if you actually collect coins or do you just troll here, but I've given you all the attention you deserve.

    Now go troll other threads
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  • LeeBoneLeeBone Posts: 4,629 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I like the original look on this coin. The rim issues are a little bit of a drawback, but hey, what do you expect from a 219 yr old coin?? Overall a pretty nice one..image

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