Anyone own a plate coin?

2ltdjorn · November 19, 2015 2:22PM

For coin Facts?

In a book?

Show it!

pruebas · November 19, 2015 3:43PM

Yes, coin #30 from the Monograph of the Silver Dollar, written in 1845 by Dr. J. L. Riddell of the New Orleans Mint.

My coin is called a "Rude and Unique Mexican Dollar" and is readily identifiable due to the crude piercing. Rude or not, I still like it.

howards · November 19, 2015 6:36PM

I own many plate coins. It's a fun thing to collect.

Boosibri · November 19, 2015 6:40PM

Several here but I don't put to much emphasis on owning a Coinfacts plate.

JJSingleton · November 19, 2015 8:57PM

Gold Coins of the Dahlonega Mint - Douglas Winter 2nd ed.

The Neighborhood Mint - Sylvia Gailey Head, Elizabeth W. Etheridge

unclebob · November 19, 2015 9:30PM

I have heard the term plate coin, but know not what it means...

Boosibri · November 19, 2015 9:49PM

I own both of the 1842 $5's plated in the Encyclopedia of US Gold by Jeff Garrett & Ron Guth

BillJones · November 19, 2015 9:51PM

Originally posted by: unclebob
I have heard the term plate coin, but know not what it means...

A "plate coin" is the specific piece that appears in a photograph in a book or now a website. The website coins are the least permanent because those photos can be changed at the discretion of whoever has control of the site's content. For example "Coin Facts" coins can be changed at any time.

I have a number of plate coins and at least one token. This 1838-C half eagle in plated in the third edition of Doug Winter's Dahlonega Mint gold coin guide. It also is the lead "Coin Facts" piece.

TwoSides2aCoin · November 19, 2015 9:55PM

Originally posted by: unclebob
I have heard the term plate coin, but know not what it means…

I believe it's a photograph, not a coin. In the old days, photographs were said to be on "plates". Glass negatives. " Don't drop the plate. You have to re shoot the coin '. If it's an archived coin re-sold , perhaps that same plate (reference to photograph) could be used if the coin hadn't changed (turned) and the auction house or catalogue company had a library of old negatives. I'd love to see them.

The plates held up for a long time. Then came the digital age. We just kept the Sheldon Scale to weigh copper.

(kidding: That's a bad scale joke)

Smoebody can correct me, and will, if I'm wrong.

oih82w8 · November 19, 2015 10:35PM

First thing I thought of by reading the title was a coin as big as a plate...you have probably seen some of those 1877 IHCs the size of coasters.

On the other hand, yes I have several of the PCGS CoinFacts coins. Here are three of my most recent variety attributed coins that are "plate coins";

BillJones · November 19, 2015 10:57PM

This 1803 half dime is plated in Walter Breen's Encyclopedia. That volume contained a lot of coins that had been plated and sold in Bowers and Ruddy auction catalogs.

This Civil War Token, Fule PA 765-J-1a was the place token from the Fuld store card CWT book.

JJSingleton · November 19, 2015 11:01PM

And now for a different kind of plate coin.

mercurydimeguy · November 19, 2015 11:22PM

About 1/3 of my collection, so it's too many to show

messydesk · November 19, 2015 11:31PM

Originally posted by: TwoSides2aCoin

I believe it's a photograph, not a coin. In the old days, photographs were said to be on "plates". Glass negatives. " Don't drop the plate. You have to re shoot the coin '.

In older reference books, there was an entirely different printing process for the photographs than there was for the text. The photos would be printed in a separate section, perhaps in color, perhaps not, and perhaps on different paper stock. They'd often not be included in the page numbering scheme of the book, either, but be labeled "Plate 1, Plate 2, Plate 3, ..." (sometimes with Roman numerals for an even more distinguished feel), one plate per page.

TwoSides2aCoin · November 19, 2015 11:48PM

Thanks Messydesk. Having worked in the photo printing field for a few years and having had friends in publishing and even in numismatics , never afforded me all the necessary teaching , or understanding to master either. I appreciate your insight and explanation.

CommemKing · November 19, 2015 11:50PM

Broadstruck · November 20, 2015 12:41AM

Here's just a few actual plates printed in reference books

I own more but just did a quick advanced search for posts I made here over the years including the word "plate" and came up with these.

Plated in the 1914 book “Plates of Lyman H. Low’s Hard Times Tokens” by Edgar H. Adams.

Plated in the 1938 book "The Coin Collectors Journal" by Wayte Raymond.

Plated in the book “The Standard Catalogue of Hard Times Tokens 1832 to 1844” by Russell Rulau.

Plated in the Redbook “A Guide Book of United States Coins” by Richard S. Yeoman.

Plated in the book “Standard Catalog of United States Tokens 1700-1900” by Russell Rulau.

Plated in the book “United States Civil War Store Cards” by George & Melvin Fuld.

Plated in the book “The Complete Guide to Barber Quarters” by David Lawrence.

Plated in the book “World's Greatest Mint Errors” by Mike Byers.

Plated in the book “The Comprehensive Catalog and Encyclopedia of Morgan & Peace Dollars” by Leroy C. Van Allen & A. George Mallis.

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cmerlo1 · November 20, 2015 1:15AM

I have several VAM discoveries in the Van Allen supplements.

Justacommeman · November 20, 2015 1:20AM

Have a few plate coins on coin facts but this is the one I think is sort of cool. It was represented in one of the most if not the most influential commem catalog sales. Some here will remember.

mark

HighRelief · November 20, 2015 1:39AM

From Wayne Millers first edition book of silver dollars

Coin Facts plate coin for the 1890 Proof Morgan

Rollerman · November 20, 2015 1:54AM

I owe the 1881 Morgan Dollar that Wayne Miller used in his book on Morgan and Peace dollars. It's in an old ANACS holder as a MS65 DMPL, while it is a 65, it's just a tiny bit short of DMPL. A true DMPL lists for around $17,000 so they are real scarce. I really enjoyed that book and it help make me a very interested Morgan collector when it came out. I've since branched out to other coins (mostly type collecting) since then.
Pete

Broadstruck · November 20, 2015 3:06AM

Originally posted by: Realone

Broadstruck that is one impressive set of flatware!

Realone thanks!

I'm pretty sure if I complied a complete list I have enough plates to fill a pretty large china cabinet

asheland · November 20, 2015 3:33AM

I have an early English spoon that's pictured in a book from the 1920's.

au58 · November 21, 2015 8:54PM

I have an 1893 Indian Cent in an ANACS holder. It is designated "Repunched Date", without further attribution. I took it to Baltimore to ask Rick Snow to attribute it. Rick attributed it as S-13, but he did not have a photo. I lent the coin to Rick. It is now the 1893 S-13 plate coin in his attribution guide.

PerryHall · November 21, 2015 9:13PM

I own the 1906 Liberty quarter eagle to illustrate the MS grade in the Official ANA Grading Guide book.

EastonCollection · November 21, 2015 10:13PM

Broadstruck - very very impressive!

Desert Moon · November 21, 2015 11:41PM

Plate for Variety in Briggs 'Liberty Seated Quarters'

Plate in Redbook for HT-69

BIGAL2749 · November 22, 2015 12:04AM

Originally posted by: pruebas
Yes, coin #30 from the Monograph of the Silver Dollar, written in 1845 by Dr. J. L. Riddell of the New Orleans Mint.

My coin is called a "Rude and Unique Mexican Dollar" and is readily identifiable due to the crude piercing. Rude or not, I still like it.

Wow, I've never see one before and will certainly be googling that one

JRocco · November 22, 2015 12:12AM

Pope Pius V Papal Medal.

Can be found here in "Portraits of the Popes on their Medals"

http://www.csun.edu/~hcfll004/PiusV.html

Anyone own a plate coin?

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