I think I checked just a couple of days ago and saw a few coins that didn't have a single bid. Maybe everyone is waiting for the LIVE PARTY EVENT? Some folks probably don't want to draw attention to the coins they are interested in either.
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Had you read the thread titles recently, you wouldn't be at all surprised.
"My friends who see my collection sometimes ask what something costs. I tell them and they are in awe at my stupidity." (Baccaruda, 12/03).I find it hard to believe that he (Trump) rushed to some hotel to meet girls of loose morals, although ours are undoubtedly the best in the world. (Putin 1/17) Gone but not forgotten. IGWT, Speedy, Bear, BigE, HokieFore, John Burns, Russ, TahoeDale, Dahlonega, Astrorat, Stewart Blay, Oldhoopster, Broadstruck, Ricko.
I think that my personal feelings are much like many other collectors who read and post here. I enjoy looking at the coins, but have no way to competively bid on any of them. Maybe that is why there is not much action here.
Yorkshireman,Obsessed collector of round, metallic pieces of history.Hunting for Latin American colonial portraits plus cool US & British coins.
<< <i>I think that my personal feelings are much like many other collectors who read and post here. I enjoy looking at the coins, but have no way to competively bid on any of them. Maybe that is why there is not much action here. >>
I think YSM has nailed it. The coins are insanely cool, and more compelling by themselves than the public exercise of putting a number on their value. Dealers and bidders may not necessarily agree, but their numbers are few
The time to be excited about these coins is when they're being shown at shows. As for the auction itself, mortals need not attend. I'll continue to drool over the coins as they're paraded at shows and perhaps pick up a catalog as I can, and the promised QDB Pogue Sylloge (pity those words don't rhyme).
The nice thing about Brent Pogue's coins is that many of them have long established pedigrees so the coins are interesting to trace and have interesting histories both in collections and at various auctions.
The auctions themselves can be very interesting from a bidding and excitement perspective.
Because of that, the coins could be interesting whether one is a contender or not.
Not that I wouldn't love to own every single pogue coin, there is nothing in this auction #2 that fits my collecting intrest at this time that I can afford.
I am interested in the auction, more so the day after!
Pretty much this. Yes, the coins are fantastic and the sale will be fun to watch. (I'm going to attend in person, and probably won't buy a thing.) But there's not much to discuss until after we see the results.
Andy Lustig
Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.
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I am very interested, but the 2 coins I've been bidding on have doubled the guide price and any previous auction result.....and it hasn't even gone live.
This auction is for the collector that has lots of disposable income and is really buying the coin for themselves, to keep, or for clients.
On that note, MOST who are serious in this auction could care less to converse with the average collector on an online forum. Not to say there aren't a couple on here and that is great, but you get my point.
Collector of Original Early Gold with beginnings in Proof Morgan collecting.
<< <i>(LVT) kinda hard to have interest in coins out of my league maybe i'm not alone in such >>
I tried not to get too wrapped around the axle in these big named collections, especially after ogling those and then having to look at my agglomeration.
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There is some great material there, but I've learned that I barely afford to buy coins in the "No Name" auctions these days. I bid retail prices and still get blown out of the water. If I am going to pay beyond retail, I have to see the item.
There is only one coin in the Pogue collection that I really want, and I know I can't afford it. I thought about saving for a year to try to buy it, but gave up on on my "Pennies for Pogue" project soon after I started it. I could save up the few hundred thousand I think it will bring and get there to find that the bid is several hundred thousand.
The Pogue sale is not for guys like me. I am mostly an AU to low end Mint State collector. I am not in the Pogue League; I'm a Class A minor league player when it comes to sales like this.
Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
My most valuable coin is a 1796 No Stars Quarter Eagle in NGC MS-62. Pogue had one in PCGS MS-62. Pogue's coin went for more than three times what I paid. I have seen Pogue's coin, and it is better than my piece, but it's not three times better.
It is very hard to buy anything in these name sales. Getting your hopes up is something like the story of the kid in the candy store who is too short to reach the counter. The kid is better off going to a smaller candy store that is selling Hershey bars and not Godiva Chocolates.
Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
<< The Pogue sale is not for guys like me. I am mostly an AU to low end Mint State collector. I am not in the Pogue League; I'm a Class A minor league player when it comes to sales like this. >>
Bill: In reference to your above quoted post, don't sell yourself short when it comes to being a true Major Leaguer when it comes to using your discerning collecting eye to acquire very high eye appealing Choice to Gem AU and Choice Lower Mint State Type Coins that are beautiful, and also are a compelling value proposition.
My collecting tastes are very similar to yours, and I know how challenging it can be to find a Choice to Gem AU-58 with stunning eye appeal, amongst a lot of average looking processed coins. For me it's a combination of the fun of the hunt, and the satisfaction of acquiring a superior appearing coin that is either conservatively or under-graded.
Stuart
Collect 18th & 19th Century US Type Coins, Silver Dollars, $20 Gold Double Eagles and World Crowns & Talers with High Eye Appeal
"Luck is what happens when Preparation meets Opportunity"
<< <i>The greatest collection of our lifetimes has a sale in two days and not a single thread? Hmmmmm >>
Great coins, but for the average collector, they are totally out of reach. I personally am not interested in coins that I cannot afford, or that do not fit my collection.
The prices that are likely to be realized at that sale are so far beyond the reach of 99% plus of collectors that they just don't feel the rush. They are coins they know they will never own and are just not getting excited about them.
The sale will probably do well anyway because it is for the 1% who can afford them.
when such sales are planned and marketed so far in advance, much of the hype wears down and strategy, finance planning, research etc. pick up where the initial shock leaves off.
i don't miss the days when big auctions netted several threads that sat at the top for weeks. i'm just one though.
i (as well as many others) eagerly await the action though! .
<< <i>The prices that are likely to be realized at that sale are so far beyond the reach of 99% plus of collectors that they just don't feel the rush. They are coins they know they will never own and are just not getting excited about them.
The sale will probably do well anyway because it is for the 1% who can afford them. >>
In a baseball analogy, I am barely in the D League, yet I love to watch the major leagues! As with others, I will be looking at the final auction figures for these auctions. Among the DEEP pocket collectors, there are some coins that will not be available again for decades after this auction. At first I was going to suggest the minor pull back of the market might dampen the enthusiasm of the bidders, and then I realized that they are immune in terms of our hobby and that the very top end coins will be pushed to new heights IMHO.
Retired United States Mint guy, now working on an Everyman Type Set.
DeepCoin: "In a baseball analogy, I am barely in the D League, yet I love to watch the major leagues."
Me, too, while it is not necessary to watch major league games to play baseball, it is necessary to learn about the major leagues to understand the role of baseball in American culture.
IMO, part of the fun of being a collector of classic U.S. coins is to be part of a community and a subculture. The greatest collections are central to this culture.
Hydrant: "Hype sells."
The Pogue I sale was hyped to a greater extent than the Pogue II sale, yet the Pogue II sale fared much better. Obviously, there are many other factors to take into consideration and learn about. Hype is just one factor among several.
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Maybe everyone is waiting for the LIVE PARTY EVENT?
Some folks probably don't want to draw attention to the coins they are interested in either.
Looking for Top Pop Mercury Dime Varieties & High Grade Mercury Dime Toners.
Liberty: Parent of Science & Industry
I enjoy looking at the coins, but have no way to competively bid on any of them.
Maybe that is why there is not much action here.
maybe i'm not alone in such
People like you, so at least you got some responses.
But as LVT stated, most coins are out of our leagues.
The best thread I've seen was Charmey's LB show report that had a great picture of the display.
I am interested in the auction, more so the day after!
<< <i>I think that my personal feelings are much like many other collectors who read and post here. I enjoy looking at the coins, but have no way to competively bid on any of them. Maybe that is why there is not much action here. >>
I think YSM has nailed it. The coins are insanely cool, and more compelling by themselves than the public exercise of putting a number on their value. Dealers and bidders may not necessarily agree, but their numbers are few
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The auctions themselves can be very interesting from a bidding and excitement perspective.
Because of that, the coins could be interesting whether one is a contender or not.
l
It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
Pretty much this. Yes, the coins are fantastic and the sale will be fun to watch. (I'm going to attend in person, and probably won't buy a thing.) But there's not much to discuss until after we see the results.
Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.
Visit the Society of US Pattern Collectors at USPatterns.com.
This auction is for the collector that has lots of disposable income and is really buying the coin for themselves, to keep, or for clients.
On that note, MOST who are serious in this auction could care less to converse with the average collector on an online forum. Not to say there aren't a couple on here and that is great, but you get my point.
<< <i>(LVT) kinda hard to have interest in coins out of my league maybe i'm not alone in such >>
I tried not to get too wrapped around the axle in these big named collections, especially after ogling those and then having to look at my agglomeration.
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There is only one coin in the Pogue collection that I really want, and I know I can't afford it. I thought about saving for a year to try to buy it, but gave up on on my "Pennies for Pogue" project soon after I started it. I could save up the few hundred thousand I think it will bring and get there to find that the bid is several hundred thousand.
The Pogue sale is not for guys like me. I am mostly an AU to low end Mint State collector. I am not in the Pogue League; I'm a Class A minor league player when it comes to sales like this.
<< <i>I've got an interest, but I ain't got any money. >>
It's hard getting interested in coins that I can never afford.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
It is very hard to buy anything in these name sales. Getting your hopes up is something like the story of the kid in the candy store who is too short to reach the counter. The kid is better off going to a smaller candy store that is selling Hershey bars and not Godiva Chocolates.
I hope that everyone who is there and is following the action enjoys it.
Bill: In reference to your above quoted post, don't sell yourself short when it comes to being a true Major Leaguer when it comes to using your discerning collecting eye to acquire very high eye appealing Choice to Gem AU and Choice Lower Mint State Type Coins that are beautiful, and also are a compelling value proposition.
My collecting tastes are very similar to yours, and I know how challenging it can be to find a Choice to Gem AU-58 with stunning eye appeal, amongst a lot of average looking processed coins. For me it's a combination of the fun of the hunt, and the satisfaction of acquiring a superior appearing coin that is either conservatively or under-graded.
Stuart
Collect 18th & 19th Century US Type Coins, Silver Dollars, $20 Gold Double Eagles and World Crowns & Talers with High Eye Appeal
"Luck is what happens when Preparation meets Opportunity"
<< <i>I would agree that Godiva is not three times better than Hersheys. >>
Lindt is 90% as good as Godiva at half the price. Mmmm, chocolate coins
<< <i>The greatest collection of our lifetimes has a sale in two days and not a single thread? Hmmmmm >>
Great coins, but for the average collector, they are totally out of reach. I personally am not interested in coins that I cannot afford, or that do not fit my collection.
Tyler
The sale will probably do well anyway because it is for the 1% who can afford them.
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<< <i>It was nice of them to have the sale on my daughter's 18th birthday!
I hope that everyone who is there and is following the action enjoys it. >>
Cool. How many lots are you planning on buying for her from the Pogue auction?
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<< <i>No interest in Pogue? >>
a general search turns up dozens of threads.
when such sales are planned and marketed so far in advance, much of the hype wears down and strategy, finance planning, research etc. pick up where the initial shock leaves off.
i don't miss the days when big auctions netted several threads that sat at the top for weeks. i'm just one though.
i (as well as many others) eagerly await the action though!
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<< <i>The prices that are likely to be realized at that sale are so far beyond the reach of 99% plus of collectors that they just don't feel the rush. They are coins they know they will never own and are just not getting excited about them.
The sale will probably do well anyway because it is for the 1% who can afford them. >>
+1
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Me, too, while it is not necessary to watch major league games to play baseball, it is necessary to learn about the major leagues to understand the role of baseball in American culture.
IMO, part of the fun of being a collector of classic U.S. coins is to be part of a community and a subculture. The greatest collections are central to this culture.
Hydrant: "Hype sells."
The Pogue I sale was hyped to a greater extent than the Pogue II sale, yet the Pogue II sale fared much better. Obviously, there are many other factors to take into consideration and learn about. Hype is just one factor among several.
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