GTG OLD GOLD Capped Bust $5 (Grade Revealed)

Proofmorgan · August 31, 2015 12:58PM

amwldcoin · August 31, 2015 1:02PM

AU55

ChangeInHistory · August 31, 2015 1:05PM

55 I would guess

ms70 · August 31, 2015 1:05PM

60

TopographicOceans · August 31, 2015 1:08PM

a nice 55

VanHalen · August 31, 2015 1:20PM

AU50 from here.

Boosibri · August 31, 2015 2:41PM

Looks like from the little prings that it is in a rattler. The coin itself has been processed and does not retain it's original surfaces. Id guess AU50 is the grade on the holder. The details are stronger than this but the surfaces really hold it back like 90% of the other early gold.

Broadstruck · August 31, 2015 2:50PM

Based on the 3 little silicone tips hugging the coins I'll say that a old school graded XF45.

Broadstruck · August 31, 2015 2:59PM

The white balance is really off in those pics once properly adjusted it most likely looks like this in hand.

Bullsitter · August 31, 2015 3:10PM

AU55

TheDukeK · August 31, 2015 3:47PM

AU50

BillJones · August 31, 2015 10:01PM

AU-50

mercurydimeguy · August 31, 2015 10:47PM

Looks 53'ish to me, but luster could boost it 55.

oih82w8 · August 31, 2015 11:07PM

I would say AU53..little concerned about the rim bump(s) at 1 o'clock OBV and 11 o'clock REV (same rim bump)

Broadstruck · August 31, 2015 11:31PM

<< Looks 53'ish to me, but luster could boost it 55. >>

Any traces of remaining luster would just be seen within the protected areas which is pretty typical of most early circ gold seen.

golden · September 1, 2015 1:06AM

I have to go with 45.

HighRelief · September 1, 2015 1:23AM

Looks like a AU50

asheland · September 1, 2015 1:32AM

Au50

Proofmorgan · September 1, 2015 1:47AM

Hint 1 of 2 that may (or may not) help you.

The coin is Green CAC

Broadstruck · September 1, 2015 3:40AM

<< Hint 1 of 2 that may (or may not) help you.

The coin is Green CAC >>

Nope not sure how a sticker on the slab is to help guessing the grade from a photo?

johnny9434 · September 1, 2015 3:50AM

im in the au 50 camp. (my grading of gold is not the best so fwiw)

pmac · September 1, 2015 3:55AM

53 here.

steveben · September 1, 2015 4:18AM

xf45

LanceNewmanOCC · September 1, 2015 4:29AM

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a side-by-side of its silver counterpart would be cool. the drapery and clasp are insanely strong by comparison.

i dont recall seeing the metal flow lines on gold from the legend to the dentils. metal content must have been the delineation.

i'll say 50 as holdered and if not repaired, probably a gold sticker and/or upgrade in the future.
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LindeDad · September 1, 2015 4:36AM

<< Looks like from the little prings that it is in a rattler. The coin itself has been processed and does not retain it's original surfaces. Id guess AU50 is the grade on the holder. The details are stronger than this but the surfaces really hold it back like 90% of the other early gold. >>

Agree but think they graded it XF40 when they put it in the rattler.

topstuf · September 1, 2015 4:44AM

OGH 40 for comparisons.

link

Proofmorgan · September 1, 2015 4:53AM

Clue #2

It is in a rattler....if you haven't figured that out already.

For consideration is some weakness/wear in the eagle's neck feathers...

Grade reveal tomorrow morning.

AnkurJ · September 1, 2015 5:31AM

AU50

LanceNewmanOCC · September 1, 2015 5:38AM

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that is amazing.

the dentils were cut around the 5 on the rev?
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PQueue · September 1, 2015 5:48AM

RE:
that is amazing.
the dentils were cut around the 5 on the rev?

BD-1 1811 Tall 5; R3+
From Bass Danreuther...
Shares reverse A with 1810 BD-1 "tall 5 over three shortened dentils (not fat and squat, as the other large 5 used in 1810, key) with feather tip well past flag."

I don't believe it is graded details or "damaged" sitting in a Rattler.

mozin · September 1, 2015 5:57AM

XF 45

LindeDad · September 1, 2015 6:00AM

Yep about the details grade they just bagged them then.

CoinJunkie · September 1, 2015 6:05AM

<< Yep about the details grade they just bagged them then. >>

Plus CAC wouldn't have stickered it.

I'll guess 45.

MCADSPEC · September 1, 2015 7:33AM

AU-53

topstuf · September 1, 2015 8:42AM

<< .
that is amazing.

the dentils were cut around the 5 on the rev?
. >>

Okay...TIME..... I call TIME! That is entirely too much numismatistimania.
Turn in your loupe! STAT!

morgansforever · September 1, 2015 9:09AM

Gotta love CB gold, I'll wager AU55. Nice piece regardless of grade

cameonut2011 · September 1, 2015 9:33AM

XF45 shot AU50

JRocco · September 1, 2015 10:10AM

I'm in the 50 camp

coin4sale · September 1, 2015 10:13AM

then...45

now...53

joebb21 · September 1, 2015 11:37AM

I was originally going to say 53. but since its in a rattler I would have to say AU50

Bullsitter · September 2, 2015 2:38AM

Well, we're waiting.....

Proofmorgan · September 2, 2015 3:04AM

XF 45 Green CAC is a Rattler.

I grade the obverse as a 53 and the reverse as a 50......so 51.5????

coinlieutenant · September 2, 2015 3:10AM

Interesting to see this coin pop up. I had the coin in hand from Joel Perlin, via ebay, and passed. I must say I am VERY surprised that it got a CAC sticker. I can see why JA could green sticker it saying it was acceptable for an XF45, but Joel, at least at the time, was asking AU money for it.

The coin has very nice details, but is blatantly unoriginal. The luster is pretty decent but the skin of the coin just wasn't there, at least for me.

I paid the same money for the coin below. A little less meat, but great skin.

Boosibri · September 2, 2015 3:15AM

Perfect assessment CL

Broadstruck · September 2, 2015 4:02AM

coinlieutenant, Thanks for the in-hand scoop on the 11 which I kinda figured... Oh & really like your 08

mozin · September 2, 2015 4:12AM

So, Broadstruck, golden, steveben, CoinJunkie and I, were the only ones giving it a solid XF 45, without any maybes. I have had one of these Capped Bust $5 on my want list now for about ten years.

Broadstruck · September 2, 2015 4:20AM

<< So, Broadstruck, golden, steveben, CoinJunkie and I, were the only ones giving it a solid XF 45, without any maybes. I have had one of these Capped Bust $5 on my want list now for about ten years. >>

You should have pulled the trigger back then when XF/AU's where today's VF money.

Then again I've missed the boat on a lot of stuff too I wont pay up for today

CoinJunkie · September 2, 2015 4:20AM

<< So, Broadstruck, golden, steveben, CoinJunkie and I, were the only ones giving it a solid XF 45, without any maybes. I have had one of these Capped Bust $5 on my want list now for about ten years. >>

Not so much a solid 45 as a net 45.

Timbuk3 · September 2, 2015 4:58AM

Sweet !!! :-)

coinlieutenant · September 2, 2015 6:15AM

Proofmorgan,

I sent you a PM but would highly advise you to stay away from this coin as well as the seller. Unless I can cherry pick them, I will never do business with this company in the future. They thought I was a newbie and looked to take advantage in my estimation.

The sticker got there after I saw it last....and it added a grand to the price. I passed at over 1000 less.

Additionally, they made me pay for shipping both ways...just to have the "privilege" of a return. When I told them that their pictures and description of the coin was deceptive and that they should pay for shipping one way, they told me that they would not and that I was lucky...normally they charge a "restocking fee".

Run....don't walk.

V.r
John

Broadstruck · September 2, 2015 6:54AM

Well after guessing the grade and really glancing at the photo I knew the white balance was off but never expected it to as bright as a ex jewellery piece.

If you look at the Sales Link not only is the white balance off on the slab shots but the majorly juiced the black template large obverse/reverse shots to make them seem orange.

GTG OLD GOLD Capped Bust $5 (Grade Revealed)

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