Has anyone else notice toned ASE's going for a lot more these days?

bolivarshagnasty · June 28, 2015 12:06PM

Hadn't purchased one for quite some time. Noticed that ebay BIN's on something nice can go up to a grand or more? Tonight at GC, this sold for $556 with the juice. Pic below. Maybe I should have purchased more when I had the chance?

TopographicOceans · June 28, 2015 1:50PM

No, but I have some cooking that I should go check on. They probably need a couple more years though.

TwoSides2aCoin · June 28, 2015 1:56PM

I can't get much more than spot no matter how toned.

Zoins · June 28, 2015 2:06PM

<< I can't get much more than spot no matter how toned. >>

PCGS adds a lot for toners, both moderns and classics.

ricko · June 29, 2015 1:45AM

Unbelievable.... oh well.... somebody else's money....

Cheers, RickO

coinsarefun · June 29, 2015 2:03AM

Yes, they are rising for nicely toned ones. Proofs are going even more now as they are not easy to find.

LindeDad · June 29, 2015 2:23AM

Been wishing mine did that so I could get on the band wagon.
And yes the nicely toned have been in that range for a long time.

roadrunner · June 29, 2015 2:28AM

If the nicest and most common toned Morgans can fetch $15K to $25K, I don't see why $556 is all that big a deal for one of the nicest toned NT ASE's in existence. But it is surprising that this 1993 is only an MS65. Not a very lofty grade for a coin that comes boxed and protected from the mint (ie not in loose 1,000 count bags). Must be a lot of these sitting in albums and sulfur envelopes hoping to be the next Moose.

braddick · June 29, 2015 2:32AM

^
Lack of luster may have limited the grade.

jcping · June 29, 2015 2:37AM

Thanks go to registry digital album. With digital albums, I saw more folks are interesting in beautifully rainbow toned coins.

david3142 · June 29, 2015 2:46AM

Real monsters can definitely get expensive but nicely toned ones have been going for around $150-$200. Shane has had a lot of these on eBay recently, but most have still been in the PCI holder. This is a recent purchase of mine. It's the nicest one I've ever seen and it came from from James Sego.

LindeDad · June 29, 2015 2:47AM

<< Unbelievable.... oh well.... somebody else's money....

Cheers, RickO >>

Some collect pieces of paper some collect pretty pieces of silver.

barrytrot · June 29, 2015 2:50AM

Not to advertise for other services but:

Because some of these look righteously AT I would think that a good premium could be had for highly-toned coins that have either the "MAC" or "QA" beans on them.

I assume (because I don't know much about either service) that their "agreeing with the NT" would give a good deal of credence to the grade, right? Similar to highly-toned CAC'd coins. They double (easily) the value of the toned coin in many cases.

david3142 · June 29, 2015 3:00AM

I don't think the MAC sticker would carry any weight for a coin like this as it's already in a PCGS holder (as is mine).

Bochiman · June 29, 2015 3:12AM

<< Not to advertise for other services but:

Because some of these look righteously AT I would think that a good premium could be had for highly-toned coins that have either the "MAC" or "QA" beans on them.

I assume (because I don't know much about either service) that their "agreeing with the NT" would give a good deal of credence to the grade, right? Similar to highly-toned CAC'd coins. They double (easily) the value of the toned coin in many cases. >>

Oh, HELL NO!
I would agree potentially with the QA sticker bit, and I did show James some of mine a few months ago but haven't submitted yet, but there is NO WAY, given some histories, I would trust the other you mentioned....and especially not after some of the responses in threads from the principle who has started to engage.

I don't have any proof toned SAEs but I do have some nicely toned MS ones in PCGS. I sold off about a half-dozen or more some years back ($120-$240 when silver was ~$10/oz and PCGS fees were a lot less).
I kept another 8-10 or so. Some dupes. I may have to think about selling a few again.

Personally though, I don't like the ones that have a very harsh circle, such as the one in the OP has. The other colors are fine with me, but, I don't like that harsh circle.

barrytrot · June 29, 2015 3:17AM

<< 

<< Not to advertise for other services but:

Because some of these look righteously AT I would think that a good premium could be had for highly-toned coins that have either the "MAC" or "QA" beans on them.

I assume (because I don't know much about either service) that their "agreeing with the NT" would give a good deal of credence to the grade, right? Similar to highly-toned CAC'd coins. They double (easily) the value of the toned coin in many cases. >>

Oh, HELL NO!
I would agree potentially with the QA sticker bit, and I did show James some of mine a few months ago but haven't submitted yet, but there is NO WAY, given some histories, I would trust the other you mentioned....and especially not after some of the responses in threads from the principle who has started to engage.

I don't have any proof toned SAEs but I do have some nicely toned MS ones in PCGS. I sold off about a half-dozen or more some years back ($120-$240 when silver was ~$10/oz and PCGS fees were a lot less).
I kept another 8-10 or so. Some dupes. I may have to think about selling a few again.

Personally though, I don't like the ones that have a very harsh circle, such as the one in the OP has. The other colors are fine with me, but, I don't like that harsh circle. >>

So if I may clarify: You are saying that "QA" stickering these toned examples IS A GOOD IDEA, right? You just don't like "MAC". (I have nearly zero knowledge on either service.)

Bochiman · June 29, 2015 3:28AM

<< 

<< 

<< Not to advertise for other services but:

Because some of these look righteously AT I would think that a good premium could be had for highly-toned coins that have either the "MAC" or "QA" beans on them.

I assume (because I don't know much about either service) that their "agreeing with the NT" would give a good deal of credence to the grade, right? Similar to highly-toned CAC'd coins. They double (easily) the value of the toned coin in many cases. >>

Oh, HELL NO!
I would agree potentially with the QA sticker bit, and I did show James some of mine a few months ago but haven't submitted yet, but there is NO WAY, given some histories, I would trust the other you mentioned....and especially not after some of the responses in threads from the principle who has started to engage.

I don't have any proof toned SAEs but I do have some nicely toned MS ones in PCGS. I sold off about a half-dozen or more some years back ($120-$240 when silver was ~$10/oz and PCGS fees were a lot less).
I kept another 8-10 or so. Some dupes. I may have to think about selling a few again.

Personally though, I don't like the ones that have a very harsh circle, such as the one in the OP has. The other colors are fine with me, but, I don't like that harsh circle. >>

So if I may clarify: You are saying that "QA" stickering these toned examples IS A GOOD IDEA, right? You just don't like "MAC". (I have nearly zero knowledge on either service.) >>

I'm saying that, for me, I would be ok doing the QA sticker as I don't see that being a negative and it would either be, to me, neutral to good.
The other.....well, buy the coin and not the sticker, but I wouldn't be pursuing it...as a submitter nor as a purchaser.

I do some investigations before I do things with my money/hobby and, if things don't pass the bar I have (ie....sniff test), then I don't want/use them. At some points, I could be wrong. In many cases, however, I have been saved (judging by things posted in this very forum that I had the opportunity to be involved in but decided to pass on)

barrytrot · June 29, 2015 3:33AM

Thank you for some candid advice Bochiman. I, and probably others, are very likely to take it to heart!

coinsarefun · June 29, 2015 4:14AM

Sticker....no sticker....once you learn what NT toning looks like just go for it as these will keep going higher.
Granted just like other toned coins it can be faked but since its .999 silver I have an easier time figuring it out to as NT or AT.

bolivarshagnasty · June 29, 2015 5:17AM

<< Real monsters can definitely get expensive but nicely toned ones have been going for around $150-$200. Shane has had a lot of these on eBay recently, but most have still been in the PCI holder. This is a recent purchase of mine. It's the nicest one I've ever seen and it came from from James Sego.

>>

David, I actually followed your coin on ebay for a while. Had no idea about the premiums these were bringing. Actually pm'd segoja about the coin to see if it had sold.
As for stickering, I trust PCGS to make that determination although like Stef, I have become pretty good at sorting AT from NT on these.
Two of my 96's below.

david3142 · June 29, 2015 5:36AM

Very pretty coins! That second one is a real stunner. I never saw my coin on eBay, which is too bad as I probably would have saved some money.

Bochiman · June 29, 2015 7:28AM

Nice one's, BS!
I can get onboard with the smoothness of that toning!!!

DCW · June 29, 2015 8:37AM

Nice 96s, Mel. Love the look of both. 1996 is one of the better dates, too as I recall.

machoponcho · June 29, 2015 9:54AM

<< 

<< Not to advertise for other services but:

Because some of these look righteously AT I would think that a good premium could be had for highly-toned coins that have either the "MAC" or "QA" beans on them.

I assume (because I don't know much about either service) that their "agreeing with the NT" would give a good deal of credence to the grade, right? Similar to highly-toned CAC'd coins. They double (easily) the value of the toned coin in many cases. >>

Oh, HELL NO!
I would agree potentially with the QA sticker bit, and I did show James some of mine a few months ago but haven't submitted yet, but there is NO WAY, given some histories, I would trust the other you mentioned....and especially not after some of the responses in threads from the principle who has started to engage.

I don't have any proof toned SAEs but I do have some nicely toned MS ones in PCGS. I sold off about a half-dozen or more some years back ($120-$240 when silver was ~$10/oz and PCGS fees were a lot less).
I kept another 8-10 or so. Some dupes. I may have to think about selling a few again.

Personally though, I don't like the ones that have a very harsh circle, such as the one in the OP has. The other colors are fine with me, but, I don't like that harsh circle. >>

Very good! I find myself in agreeance about the harsh circle. The other toned ASEs in this thread exhibit smooth transition between colors in the spectrum which is more indicative of NT. I am surprised they gave the OP coin the green light. Also one of the highest $$$ I have seen shelled out for a toned business strike ASE. I recall seeing a certain business strike banded target ASE bring about $1800 on Heritage about 7 or 8 years back.

braddick, I agree with your observation as to luster. Sharp eye, as usual.

coinsarefun, you are, of course, correct as I know you are an avid collector of toned proof ASEs and your observations as to that market are spot on so far as I see. Toned ASE I keep my finger on the pulse of, as I do with many of the toned US coin markets.

Has anyone else notice toned ASE's going for a lot more these days?

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