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I Have been revisiting some of the old Whitman coin albums I have stored for a number of years In a temperature and humidity controlled safe, Walking Halfs, Peace and Morgan albums
I am noticing that there is a small amount black residue adhering to the coins. Especially around the rim

Some coins are also exhibiting slight spotty haze

I tried short soaking in Acetone. Does anyone have any suggestion about what I could use to eliminate the residue before rinsing in Distilled water and putting them in a Dansco album

Thanks for any help anyone may have

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  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 38,855 ✭✭✭✭✭
    it reads like your controls need more controlling.

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  • MeltdownMeltdown Posts: 9,209 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm curious myself. I picked this up recently and it was in a Whitman album for many years. Is this what you are talking about?
    Acetone will not remove it, I tried.
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  • That is what I am seeing I happens on some albums but not all of them.
    Looks like the glue backing has come off of the album onto the coin
    It leaves a black varathane

    Anyone have any ideas
  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Try Ezest and the other dips available....if you know anyone with access to an FT-IR spectrometer, they could test the residue and identify it... that would allow you to identify the proper solvent. Cheers, RickO
  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 35,702 ✭✭✭✭✭
    First, I would transfer the coins to a new storage medium. The temperature and humidity controls you have been using, might well have done their job. The trouble is the cardboard, paper and glue in the old time blue Whitman folders, which I'm guessing you were using, breaks down over time and deposits a residue on the coins. You need to move your collection in to new albums or safety flips that are more inert.

    As for removing the black residue on the coins, that's one area where I don't have the proper expertise. If acetone as not worked, it's probable that whatever is there has reacted with the metal and is not simply sitting on top of it. If the coins have sufficient value, professional restoration might be in order. But, with all due respect, the collection is on the order of the 1932-S quarter you posted, the value might not be such to warrant that expense.

    I can understand how frustrating this can be. As a collector I know that how badly you feel when your coins suffer environmental damage. Still it serves as a warning to all of us that you need to get your coins out and admire them once and a while to make sure that all is well with them.
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  • Kaline6Kaline6 Posts: 345
    Are folders or albums being discussed here?
  • The folders that we are talking about are the Whitman blue folders that you simply push the coin into a hole. You can only see the front of the coin, A paper film covers the back of the coinm We feel that the paper covering the back of the coin has transfered an adhevise or resin to the coin

    Thanks
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  • ernie11ernie11 Posts: 2,102 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>First, I would transfer the coins to a new storage medium. The temperature and humidity controls you have been using, might well have done their job. The trouble is the cardboard, paper and glue in the old time blue Whitman folders, which I'm guessing you were using, breaks down over time and deposits a residue on the coins. You need to move your collection in to new albums or safety flips that are more inert.

    As for removing the black residue on the coins, that's one area where I don't have the proper expertise. If acetone as not worked, it's probable that whatever is there has reacted with the metal and is not simply sitting on top of it. If the coins have sufficient value, professional restoration might be in order. But, with all due respect, the collection is on the order of the 1932-S quarter you posted, the value might not be such to warrant that expense.

    I can understand how frustrating this can be. As a collector I know that how badly you feel when your coins suffer environmental damage. Still it serves as a warning to all of us that you need to get your coins out and admire them once and a while to make sure that all is well with them. >>



    A few years ago, I got all of mine out of the old Whitman deluxe albums. I was very lucky in that none of that black residue was found on any of my coins, but some of the clad coins did appear to have attained a slightly blue toning.
  • MeltdownMeltdown Posts: 9,209 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Try Ezest and the other dips available....if you know anyone with access to an FT-IR spectrometer, they could test the residue and identify it... that would allow you to identify the proper solvent. Cheers, RickO >>




    The thought crossed my mind. I'd even try it on something uncirculated but on an AU or less coin, dipping the sucker pure white would just look wrong in my opinion.
  • kruegerkrueger Posts: 942 ✭✭✭✭

    Not sure if this is part of the affect noted, but some folks in the know
    take High grade inert currency holders / mylar and cut them to replace the slides in the whitmans.
    Probably clearer and better quality than what comes standard in the albums.

    Krueger
  • I think you are talking about the Dansco albums The Whitman do not have slides just hole to push the coin into
  • ajaanajaan Posts: 17,890 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I think you are talking about the Dansco albums The Whitman do not have slides just hole to push the coin into >>


    Whitman Bookself albums have slides.

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