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Which bust half do you like better?

Which specimen do you prefer? And perhaps why?

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    KyleKyle Posts: 1,821 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Option 2

    Because it has better eye appeal.
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    VanHalenVanHalen Posts: 3,839 ✭✭✭✭✭
    #1 for the more attractive obverse. Neither is great coin though - I think you know that.
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    BillJonesBillJones Posts: 33,619 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I like toning on the second one, but I don't know what is going on at 12 k in the reverse.
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    BustCudsBustCuds Posts: 1,096 ✭✭✭

    Prefer the toning on #2 but both have problems so would pass
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    MWallaceMWallace Posts: 3,943 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    GoldenEggGoldenEgg Posts: 1,937 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I like toning on the second one, but I don't know what is going on at 12 k in the reverse >>



    It's called a clip.
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    DAMDAM Posts: 2,410 ✭✭


    << <i>Option 2

    Because it has better eye appeal. >>



    Ditto
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    QuarternutQuarternut Posts: 1,481 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>I like toning on the second one, but I don't know what is going on at 12 k in the reverse >>



    It's called a clip. >>



    No...it is called a "Guido".

    It occurs when the blank planchet does not make a full rotation through the castaing machine that applies the lettered edge prior to striking. Besides applying the lettered edges, the castaing machince also pushes up the edges so that when the planchet is stuck with the obverse and reverse dies it will help make an even strike.

    I notice that they are both the same die marriage and even the same die stage...and an R-5 to boot! Provided that I am correct in my attribution of O-113...

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    QuarternutQuarternut Posts: 1,481 ✭✭✭
    Oh...and I would keep them both!

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    crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 13,898 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I like em both and would more than likely keep both.
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    FlatwoodsFlatwoods Posts: 4,122 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Tough call. Number 2 has the overall look I usually prefer.
    Number 1 shows a little less wear.

    They each have good points.

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    goldengolden Posts: 9,182 ✭✭✭✭✭
    2. I really don't care for either.
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    DennisHDennisH Posts: 13,967 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Pass on both. Sorry.
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    coin22lovercoin22lover Posts: 3,470 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>I like toning on the second one, but I don't know what is going on at 12 k in the reverse >>



    It's called a clip. >>



    No...it is called a "Guido".

    It occurs when the blank planchet does not make a full rotation through the castaing machine that applies the lettered edge prior to striking. Besides applying the lettered edges, the castaing machince also pushes up the edges so that when the planchet is stuck with the obverse and reverse dies it will help make an even strike.

    I notice that they are both the same die marriage and even the same die stage...and an R-5 to boot! Provided that I am correct in my attribution of O-113...

    QN >>




    I was wondering how long it would take someone to point that out image The Guido and the variety.
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    zap1111zap1111 Posts: 1,298 ✭✭
    A couple of nice grabs, especially for the die marriage. Personally I'd settle with #1 if I could only keep one of them...
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    JRoccoJRocco Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭✭
    O-113 I believe, R5
    Put me in the I'll keep both camp
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    BustHalfBrianBustHalfBrian Posts: 4,150 ✭✭✭
    Is this variety still R5? I feel like I see them often compared to other R5's like 09-101 or 27-122 (just to name a couple). I suspect the O.113 will be the next R5 to have a - added to its rating, if not dropped to R4+ entirely.

    Still, I like both of your examples, coinlover22. If I had to choose one, I'd take the first for its slightly better detail.
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    CoinZipCoinZip Posts: 3,253 ✭✭✭
    Is this a give away contest thingy.... image

    I would be happy with either, but if you force me to choose, I like the look of the 2nd one.

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    BaleyBaley Posts: 22,659 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Which specimen do you prefer? And perhaps why?

    The lower priced one, because I'm thrifty!

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    TopographicOceansTopographicOceans Posts: 6,535 ✭✭✭✭
    #2 looks better
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    coin22lovercoin22lover Posts: 3,470 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Is this variety still R5? I feel like I see them often compared to other R5's like 09-101 or 27-122 (just to name a couple). I suspect the O.113 will be the next R5 to have a - added to its rating, if not dropped to R4+ entirely.

    Still, I like both of your examples, coinlover22. If I had to choose one, I'd take the first for its slightly better detail. >>




    That's a can of worms right there, I suspect most if not all R5's would downgrade if a honest re-assessment were done.
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    QuarternutQuarternut Posts: 1,481 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Is this variety still R5? I feel like I see them often compared to other R5's like 09-101 or 27-122 (just to name a couple). I suspect the O.113 will be the next R5 to have a - added to its rating, if not dropped to R4+ entirely.

    Still, I like both of your examples, coinlover22. If I had to choose one, I'd take the first for its slightly better detail. >>




    That's a can of worms right there, I suspect most if not all R5's would downgrade if a honest re-assessment were done. >>



    An honest assessment is in the works...we will see where it lands, but I would tend to agree with Brian, it is not a very tough R-5.

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    coin22lovercoin22lover Posts: 3,470 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    An honest assessment is in the works...we will see where it lands, but I would tend to agree with Brian, it is not a very tough R-5.

    QN >>




    That's kind of scary...a lot of variety collectors are going to go crackers when their R5+'s are downgraded to R5-
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    sawyerjoshsawyerjosh Posts: 415 ✭✭✭
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    lavalava Posts: 3,286 ✭✭✭
    Why do I feel like the answers to this question will determine which coin gets the higher asking price on the BST? I'll pass.
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    CoinJunkieCoinJunkie Posts: 8,772 ✭✭✭✭✭
    To pick one would be to disparage the other. Sadly, I must therefore refrain from comment. image
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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I prefer the second one, since the appearance seems to reflect usage from commerce....rather than storage. Cheers, RickO
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    winkywinky Posts: 1,671
    #2 for me, it looks more real.
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    ARCOARCO Posts: 4,352 ✭✭✭✭✭
    For eye appeal, definitely #2. Coin #1 has that cleaned scratchy look that just ruins a coin for me. Posters here...any sane person really, would prefer coin #1 over coin #2?

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    habaracahabaraca Posts: 1,971 ✭✭✭✭✭
    the one you had on ebay for $449.......
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    I'd do the guido...wonder what the edge says?
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    okiedudeokiedude Posts: 643 ✭✭✭
    #1, I like LDS coins.
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    StuartStuart Posts: 9,761 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm not really a fan of either, but in answer to your question I'd probably pick coin #2 over coin #1.

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    lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,891 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It's a cool variety and tough, wherever it ends up on the rarity scale. I like #2. It looks a bit like mine. PCGS called it VG8 but I think that's conservative.
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    USMoneyloverUSMoneylover Posts: 1,672 ✭✭✭
    I like the first one image
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    relicsncoinsrelicsncoins Posts: 7,875 ✭✭✭✭✭
    They look like they were in a bezel.
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    jayPemjayPem Posts: 4,057 ✭✭✭✭✭
    #1..like the guido though image
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    WalkerfanWalkerfan Posts: 9,068 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I like the first one more---less wear.

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