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So, what would you grade this 1936 Buff???? Here's the grade if ya wanna see...
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What grade did NGC give this one. If you know the answer please don't give it away. This should be fun.
A couple of other shots...You can actually see the whites of the buffalo's eye.
Would you believe they graded this Buff at......,.
I have a hard time with this one. I could crack this Buff outta this NGC holder and I'll just bet ya it'll come maybe 2 grades higher, or 3. I can not see any reason in the world this Buff should be a 62, no freaking way. Of course it would make no sense what so ever to do this as the price only goes up maybe $5.00 a grade with this common date Buff. But, it's a GREAT conversation piece!!
Thanks to all for playing along, Joe
A couple of other shots...You can actually see the whites of the buffalo's eye.
Would you believe they graded this Buff at......,.
I have a hard time with this one. I could crack this Buff outta this NGC holder and I'll just bet ya it'll come maybe 2 grades higher, or 3. I can not see any reason in the world this Buff should be a 62, no freaking way. Of course it would make no sense what so ever to do this as the price only goes up maybe $5.00 a grade with this common date Buff. But, it's a GREAT conversation piece!!
Thanks to all for playing along, Joe
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gawddah love a guess the grade when it's eye candy presented
so i see no luster break in it's skin...oooh and sweet color
"go grab the STAR dart-board someone"
so after a lil back n forth here with those white prongs...a lil kiss on the tip of my dart and she's off....yup...my dart landed on 67
67 star it is
I agree with the 67 that LVT gave it.
the coin has average strike for 36 but kick a** color.
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PCGS 65+
<< <i>NGC 66
PCGS 65+ >>
This.
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I'm going to guess AU58+ *
I was going to go with 65+*, but after looking at the second image, the high points look like they may just have a tad bit of rub. It may just be the toning and image causing the look. I have a few MS coins myself that have the same look. Very pretty coin though. I really like the 13 T1.
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so now we have 2 more guess the grades on....without the 1st one being disclosed
this is probably not the best way to be in the "2 xmas cards this year " club...just sayin
and yeah this is fun
until the rope starts to burn my neck from dangling ...TOO LONG
chop-chop here i say
<< <i>hmmm
so now we have 2 more guess the grades on....without the 1st one being disclosed
this is probably not the best way to be in the "2 xmas cards this year " club...just sayin
and yeah this is fun
until the rope starts to burn my neck from dangling ...TOO LONG
chop-chop here i say >>
No need to guess the other ones. Just the 36 at top of this post. I added them just to shed some light on where they came from and that's all from the same coin album. An old one where they resided for decades. The other two Buffs both got the star designation for the eye appeal.
<< <i>what kind of album?? >>
An old library of coins album that was literally falling apart.
coins, while certainly not all, and will vouch to the quality and beauty of your collection. Great coin.
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The 1936 might have some limitations- MS65 star.
It is a very attractive coin
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<< <i>That's definitely a tough one to grade from images.
I'm going to guess AU58+ *
I was going to go with 65+*, but after looking at the second image, the high points look like they may just have a tad bit of rub. >>
I have to say I am in the 58*group as well. 36-P are not known for flat spots on the hip. Very pretty coin, color and image but I really cannot see this with an Uber MS grade. A market Grade of 64 star wouldn't surprise me either but I will stick with my guns on 58*
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<< <i>That's definitely a tough one to grade from images.
I'm going to guess AU58+ *
I was going to go with 65+*, but after looking at the second image, the high points look like they may just have a tad bit of rub. >>
I have to say I am in the 58*group as well. 36-P are not known for flat spots on the hip. Very pretty coin, color and image but I really cannot see this with an Uber MS grade. A market Grade of 64 star wouldn't surprise me either but I will stick with my guns on 58* >>
Looks like the went market grade and split the difference between what I said, LOL. I agree there is no way that is a 'technical' 62. Total market grade.
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<< <i>Grade posted . And I think it's a joke >>
that is a travesty grade there
i'm no pro on these things but do have understandings that i've come to know
the 58 to 62 grades can be a trap to weed through
but once it's established it's unc...then a different type of grading kicks in
it's all about luster and frost...toning can introduce a wrench in grading
so once unc
it's about grading the luster...strange darn thing to grade in a way
so yeah
your 36' here
it's luster looked "shiney" and unbroken...should of been at 65 or above type of luster grade
oh well
i'm batting 0 for 2 with these darn buffalo's this week
i'm not attempting your other 2 in this thread
NOPE-NO WAY
I cover up the grade and show it to other collectors who express their disbelief that it's graded so conservatively low. -- As you already mentioned it's not commercially viable to resubmit for grading.
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When I go to resubmit coins, I never look at the grades. I grade the coins, and then look to see how PCGS came out. Most often I will agree with PCGS and a submission is limited to the coins only getting reholdered and attributed. When my grade is higher, those are the coins that get submitted for regrading.
I'm guessing there is nothing I can tell you that you haven't heard before, but that is my two cents.
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<< <i>Joe, I think the MS66-67 grade "guesses" are partly your responsibility, you lulled the forum into a trance by showing so many coins graded that high. I have said for a long time that with one of these GTG's if I guess MS64 I will always be close. past that, I think lava makes a good point: I tend to let the TPG's teach me so that when I receive a grade I don't agree with I try to understand what they saw that I missed, not vice-versa. >>
I'm always trying to learn. Thanks to all.
PCGS: Pop 59, 10 lower, 7 in MS61 and 3 in MS60. 4778 higher.
NCG: Pop 117, 14 lower, 13 in MS61 and 1 in MS60. 2811 higher.
Certainly not a "fair" grade for that coin. I'd pay you MS65 money for it if that would make you feel better........
OINK
As with some others, I think it could be AU-58 and it got the 62 because the graders liked the look. I would sell it at 65 money to the buyer right now also!
Needless to say I am not really a fan of the 11 point 60 to 70 grading scale which when you add all the plus grades, which are really different grades,
you get about 17 different grades!! And if it is an NGC coin you have the star designation which is also really another grade.
I have seen so many coins with which I did not agree with the grades at all.
Once saw a pcgs ms65 13 type one buff that was no better than a 61 IMO.
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<< <i>Joe, another way to look at it:
PCGS: Pop 59, 10 lower, 7 in MS61 and 3 in MS60. 4778 higher.
NCG: Pop 117, 14 lower, 13 in MS61 and 1 in MS60. 2811 higher.
Certainly not a "fair" grade for that coin. I'd pay you MS65 money for it if that would make you feel better........
OINK >>
I don't feel bad at all.
I just saw this and Nah, I don't wanna sell it. I have several from the same coin album, they're all quite nice and I like keeping them all together. I have a lot of Buffs, kinda of a large collection graded, and many ungraded in coin albums and what not. I enjoy imaging nice colorful Buffs without the plastic, kind of another hobby within a hobby. One I kept raw for a few years just so I could take it out and enjoy it the way I used to do in the old days, before all the TPG's came along. I don't know for sure how many images I took of it. It's just for my enjoyment and that's it. Sometimes I look at a graded coin and try to see what they see, or what I didn't, and for some reason or another I'm just stumped with this one. I am in no way an expert at grading coins. But, I feel comfortable grading buffalo nickel's.
Thanks again to all, Joe