My White Whale Acquired, Dahlonega NEWP
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First, thanks Doug!
The 1842-D $5 Large Date is one of the two rarest Dahlonega $5's (sharing the title with the 61-D) but it is unquestionably the rarest in higher grades. Most non-Southern Gold collectors will not appreciate the rarity and conditional quality of the coin below so let me offer some information.
1842 was a transitional year in US gold coinage with seven variations of date and letter combinations occurring from the four mints. While not as rare as some of the other varieties (that honor goes to the 1842 Large Letters) it is likely the most difficult to find in any condition and is nearly always found choppy with heavy abrasions and unfortunately often processed. This specific variety occurred when a new reverse was sent to Dahlonega in the fall of 1842, thus producing a limited mintage.
Varieties of 1842:
1842 Small Letters (About 100 extant)
1842 Large Letters (Rarest - 40-50 extant)
1842-C Small Date (About 100 extant)
1842-C Large Date (Most Common, about 300 extant)
1842-D Small Date (About 250 extant)
1842-D Large Date (About 80-90 extant)
1842-O (About 60 extant)
Condition Census
While I may have this partially correct, hopefully you get the idea. This is one tough coin in AU! GeorgeKellogg please correct me!
MS61 - 3 coins known
* NGC MS61 from the SS Brother Jonathan, last sold via HA Jan 2010
* NGC MS61 from the Dukes Creek Collection, ex. Eliasberg, Previously the finest known, now dipped.
* PCGS MS61 from the Green Pond Collection/North Georgia Collection, Perhaps the finest known now that the Dukes Creek coin has been destroyed. Last sold Stacks 2011.
AU58 - 3-5 known, several upgraded to MS61
Notable Coins
* PCGS AU58 from the Chestatee Collection, ex. Dukes Creek, ex. Byron Reed, sold in 1999 via HA. Choice toning last time it appeared.
* NGC AU58 ex Pittman, sold in 1997. I have not seen this coin.
* I have seen one or two other AU58's which to me had negative eye appeal and had been lightened or dipped.
So consider, this completely original 1842-D $5 Large Date is likely one of one 5-10 coins in all graded which have not been adulterated in some way and likely one of only 3-4 in MS/AU with that claim. I will be checking my Bass catalog when I return to the US next to see if it is a match for his AU piece.
My new centerpiece!
The 1842-D $5 Large Date is one of the two rarest Dahlonega $5's (sharing the title with the 61-D) but it is unquestionably the rarest in higher grades. Most non-Southern Gold collectors will not appreciate the rarity and conditional quality of the coin below so let me offer some information.
1842 was a transitional year in US gold coinage with seven variations of date and letter combinations occurring from the four mints. While not as rare as some of the other varieties (that honor goes to the 1842 Large Letters) it is likely the most difficult to find in any condition and is nearly always found choppy with heavy abrasions and unfortunately often processed. This specific variety occurred when a new reverse was sent to Dahlonega in the fall of 1842, thus producing a limited mintage.
Varieties of 1842:
1842 Small Letters (About 100 extant)
1842 Large Letters (Rarest - 40-50 extant)
1842-C Small Date (About 100 extant)
1842-C Large Date (Most Common, about 300 extant)
1842-D Small Date (About 250 extant)
1842-D Large Date (About 80-90 extant)
1842-O (About 60 extant)
Condition Census
While I may have this partially correct, hopefully you get the idea. This is one tough coin in AU! GeorgeKellogg please correct me!
MS61 - 3 coins known
* NGC MS61 from the SS Brother Jonathan, last sold via HA Jan 2010
* NGC MS61 from the Dukes Creek Collection, ex. Eliasberg, Previously the finest known, now dipped.
* PCGS MS61 from the Green Pond Collection/North Georgia Collection, Perhaps the finest known now that the Dukes Creek coin has been destroyed. Last sold Stacks 2011.
AU58 - 3-5 known, several upgraded to MS61
Notable Coins
* PCGS AU58 from the Chestatee Collection, ex. Dukes Creek, ex. Byron Reed, sold in 1999 via HA. Choice toning last time it appeared.
* NGC AU58 ex Pittman, sold in 1997. I have not seen this coin.
* I have seen one or two other AU58's which to me had negative eye appeal and had been lightened or dipped.
So consider, this completely original 1842-D $5 Large Date is likely one of one 5-10 coins in all graded which have not been adulterated in some way and likely one of only 3-4 in MS/AU with that claim. I will be checking my Bass catalog when I return to the US next to see if it is a match for his AU piece.
My new centerpiece!
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Very, Very Nice...An Awesome Centerpiece
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SWEET! How did you come about getting it? (I hope I didn't miss that somewhere above?)
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Every time I see a post from you I secretly hope you've tracked down a '48 D/D (one in particular), and my heart drops just a little when I open the thread to see it's a different date. This time though, my disappointment turned to excitement when I saw what you'd landed.
Beautiful coin. Congratulations!
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<< <i>Every time I see a post from you I secretly hope you've tracked down a '48 D/D (one in particular), and my heart drops just a little when I open the thread to see it's a different date. This time though, my disappointment turned to excitement when I saw what you'd landed.
Beautiful coin. Congratulations!
Thanks Mike. I am still tracking that coin down and sure hope to own it one day.
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<< <i>SWEET! How did you come about getting it? (I hope I didn't miss that somewhere above?) >>
Doug Winter acquired a collection called the "Western Michigan Collection" which was a favorable omen as I am from West Michigan. The collection included a few coins from the Chestatee Collection, ex. Eliasberg and The North George Collection. Very nice stuff and can be seen on his site, www.raregoldcoins.com. The 46-D $5 ex. Chestatee and ex. Eliasberg is really nice as is the 45-O $2.5 in N58 which is really tough. The collection is worth a look though most sold likely in minutes!
Doug has been helping me assemble my collection for a few years and knows my interest in building a transitional 1842 set. I have acquired all but one of the coins from him, the other being the 42-C Small Date $5 from forumite Commoncents05.
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Thanks for sharing and congratulations!
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<< <i>Very nice. I looked at the Bass catalog. He had one LD, Bass III:365 in PCGS AU 53. I think you can tell fairly certainly whether or not it is the same coin... but I aint saying unless asked. >>
Update here... Not ex. Bass. Thanks for checking.
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No?
What you need now is a good white whale to chase.
rainbowroosie April 1, 2003
<< <i>Next up 1982 cents!
No?
What you need now is a good white whale to chase.
Still have a few..64-S $5 for one
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