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2015 High Relief Design Candidates - UPDATED 1/27

KudbegudKudbegud Posts: 4,735 ✭✭✭✭✭
Posted on Mint News Blog

Some are very nice, others not so much. At least there will be a Gold and a Silver version.

Which ones strike your fancy? Of course your exquisite taste will be over ruled by the Commission of Fine Arts (CFA) and Citizens Coinage Advisory Committee (CCAC).

My first glance picks are:
OBVERSE, 07, 14, 16, 18, 19 and my top pick 20
REVERSE, 01, 08, 13, 15 and my top pick 12

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    WeissWeiss Posts: 9,942 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Wow.
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    renman95renman95 Posts: 7,037 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Obverse: 15-24 look promising
    Reverse: 11 & 12

    ...modern with hints of classic design.
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    CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 34,009 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Is this trip really necessary?
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    bluelobsterbluelobster Posts: 1,223 ✭✭✭
    I like 023 and R1
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    don129don129 Posts: 562 ✭✭✭
    I see political correctness on full display with these proposals
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    UTTM07UTTM07 Posts: 313 ✭✭
    Like obverses 11, 12, and 18.

    Like reverses 7,8, and 12.

    Any of the more detailed designs will look great though. Looking forward to seeing it in coin form.
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    CasmanCasman Posts: 3,935 ✭✭
    HR-0-11-C Is that Angelina Jolie, Tomb Raider?
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    BillJonesBillJones Posts: 35,864 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I see political correctness on full display with these proposals >>



    You have got that right. If it is really PC, I'll pass.

    I thought that this might be a larger version of the St. Gaudens High Relief design. I didn't figure that it would be like one of the platinum coins.
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    TopographicOceansTopographicOceans Posts: 6,535 ✭✭✭✭
    The obverse's range from simple to overkill. Nothing really strikes me as a great design.
    A couple of nice eagles though.

    Some look like they were borrowed from the Mexican Libertad coins.

    This one looks like it was in a fashion show

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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,585 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Bottom line---If I like the design and it's not overpriced, I'll buy one. Otherwise, I'll pass on this one.

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    stevebensteveben Posts: 4,666 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    numismanumisma Posts: 3,877 ✭✭✭✭

    As usual, the designs would be fine for a painting or drawing, but not for coinage. Only a few of the design concepts are feasible for a struck coin. The Mint should hire descendants of the early U.S. Mint engravers (1793-1830s).
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    epcjimi1epcjimi1 Posts: 3,489 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Is this trip really necessary? >>



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    The Dead are back, PC coin design rules, Moderns are toast.
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    mbogomanmbogoman Posts: 5,325 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    koynekwestkoynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Obv #19; Rev #16. A couple of the obverses look like Wonder Woman.
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    CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 34,009 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    +1
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    AblinkyAblinky Posts: 628 ✭✭✭
    At least they'll have a few to choose from, and I do see the political correctness as well.

    Andrew Blinkiewicz-Heritage

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    dcarrdcarr Posts: 10,144 ✭✭✭✭✭
    What is keeping that heavy spiked tiara from falling on her face ?
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    This "long neck" is simple but pretty nice.
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    A lot of hair and a fuzzy fern.
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    Hypnotized by the olive branch.
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    This looks like some type of religious experience I'm not familiar with.
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    I wouldn't hold a flame that close to my face (or my bare hand). She must have some special powers. I like this design ok, though.
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    Hey lady, watch where you're going !
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    I'd vote for this one (although I'd reduce the size of the "LIBERTY" font).
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    Same as above.
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    Lady Diana at the costume ball.
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    You don't want to be on the wrong side of this Amazonian !
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    Looks like someone is stealing all the South American babies and taking them to North America (oops).
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    The Elf Princess with her Hobbit friend. A nice design, but Cherubs are not going to fly (so to speak).
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    Morticia on parade. I'm kind of freaked out by this one (go look at the full-resolution image). Whose foot is that ?
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    Something odd about that face. What is the sword stuck into ?
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    Oh great Genie, I wish for a Chaise Lounge !
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    Look out ma'am, a great Eagle is about to attack you from behind ! Too bad your sword is stuck in your butt.
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    The Eagles are generally pretty nice. I'd vote for this one.
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    KaelasdadKaelasdad Posts: 1,232 ✭✭✭
    Wow is right, some really horrible designs there. I feel like they are trying to cast for a reality show. Trying to keep some style to my picks, I would love to see O18 or O22, a nice representation without too much angel wings or PC to cloud it up, and R11, to keep it related to designs that have passed the test of time and pay homage.
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    epcjimi1epcjimi1 Posts: 3,489 ✭✭✭


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    I'd vote for this one (although I'd reduce the size of the "LIBERTY" font):
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    JC, she looks like Medusa.
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    derrybderryb Posts: 38,586 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    OverdateOverdate Posts: 7,314 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I like Obverse 21, Reverse 9.

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    JazzmanJABJazzmanJAB Posts: 1,032 ✭✭✭✭
    WOW O WOW.

    I'm glad to see I won't need to budget for any of those High Relief Gold Coins.

    Those are something else.
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    Well the good news is I can spend my money on something else.
    Thank you mint. Your saying me money,lol
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    << <i>As usual, the designs would be fine for a painting or drawing, but not for coinage. Only a few of the design concepts are feasible for a struck coin. The Mint should hire descendants of the early U.S. Mint engravers (1793-1830s). >>



    Seems that way to me too. Many of the designs are just way too busy.

    My choices would be O3 (simple and dignified with superior lettering) and O14 (Fierce warrior, I dig her don't mess with us 'tude.), and R2 and R10 (I like the outer rim but not sure how the coin would strike up.)

    Seriously, O19 is truly disturbing. It looks like a zombie. How did that ever make it through?
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    pf70collectorpf70collector Posts: 6,857 ✭✭✭
    Liberty is too angel-like is some, coinage should be secular with no religious connotations even though we allow IN GOD WE TRUST.

    Glad I won't be buying this coin this year. Back to the drawing board. I hope the CCAC rejects all of them. Is that possible?

    It is safe to assume the 2009 UHR is safe from competition from this year's UHR.

    They should have used some designs from the 2015 Platinum Proof this year. I may be buying that one though.

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    GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 18,508 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    "Don't it make your brown eyes blue." image
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    pf70collectorpf70collector Posts: 6,857 ✭✭✭
    HR-O-06-C
    The Angelina Jolie Liberty
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    CocoinutCocoinut Posts: 2,554 ✭✭✭✭✭
    For the obverse, I'd vote for #07 or #16.
    Reverse, #01, #08, or #12.

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    csdotcsdot Posts: 730 ✭✭✭✭


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    Mila Kunis?

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    RaufusRaufus Posts: 7,348 ✭✭✭✭✭
    dcarr, thanks for the awesome post!
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    BullsitterBullsitter Posts: 6,245 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If I had to pick one.....................


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    DCWDCW Posts: 7,847 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>If I had to pick one.....................


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    I agree. I like the symbolism this one has for the times we are living in. America holding its flag in one hand and a sword in the other, ready to defend liberty where it is threatened...

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    messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,784 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Many disasters, some nice ones.

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    I keep coming back to this obverse as my favorite, although as sketches, none of them jump out to me as a coin I must have. I have two big problems with this one, however. First is the choice of font, which is far too clunky for the elegant design, and continues the wretched practice of using an unattractive computer font rather than hand-crafting the legends. Second is the fact that the field is totally blank. If this is supposed to be an ultra-high relief design, put something in the background that gives a context to Liberty's walk toward the viewer other than empty space. Using a giant font for LIBERTY doesn't count.

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    This would go well with my chosen obverse. Same complaints about computer font and dead background. Move some of the legends to the edge and use the extra space artistically.
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    CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 34,009 ✭✭✭✭✭
    CFA recommendations in:

    Winning obverses #3 & 11.
    Winning reverse #1 & 10.

    Don't know which will be the gold and which will be the silver, if indeed the Mint does go with these..
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    cmerlo1cmerlo1 Posts: 8,062 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Awesome post, Dan. I lol'd.
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    cmerlo1cmerlo1 Posts: 8,062 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Also, since this is for a high relief coin, I think any prospective designs should be sculpted, not drawn, before being considered.
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    KudbegudKudbegud Posts: 4,735 ✭✭✭✭✭
    From the choices so far these got the most mentions:

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    kiyotekiyote Posts: 5,627 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm not a fan of the Barbie Doll proportions on most of the figures. These women don't even have hips wide enough to give birth.
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    KudbegudKudbegud Posts: 4,735 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Just posted on Coin World The recommendations from The Commission of Fine Arts.

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    CakesCakes Posts: 3,718 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>I see political correctness on full display with these proposals >>



    I thought that this might be a larger version of the St. Gaudens High Relief design. I didn't figure that it would be like one of the platinum coins. >>



    I agree, and it's really a shame.
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    RaufusRaufus Posts: 7,348 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>WOW O WOW.

    I'm glad to see I won't need to budget for any of those High Relief Gold Coins.

    Those are something else. >>



    My thoughts exactly. What a shame. Such a great opportunity - an other high relief design - wasted. It seems as thought they're doing this just to do it. With the UHR there was a purpose - and a great idea. Here the idea is without direction or purpose. I so wish the they'd do something like a 1.5 oz UHR so that the design could be better appreciated, esp. with the $75 denomination. Another great idea, as many have mentioined for a larger gold coin would be a Pan Pac remake. It looks like I'll be able to save a few bucks as well on this one. I will have to reserve final judgement though as some of the designs do look nice if not lacking in purpose.
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    CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 34,009 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Also, since this is for a high relief coin, I think any prospective designs should be sculpted, not drawn, before being considered. >>



    +1
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    DrBusterDrBuster Posts: 5,445 ✭✭✭✭✭
    23, 24, 25, 5

    Angel wing liberty I'm digging.
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    kiyotekiyote Posts: 5,627 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>Also, since this is for a high relief coin, I think any prospective designs should be sculpted, not drawn, before being considered. >>



    +1 >>


    Here here... these drawings/line art come out reminding me of the Mint-A-Badge machines.
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    BackroadJunkieBackroadJunkie Posts: 3,745 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>Also, since this is for a high relief coin, I think any prospective designs should be sculpted, not drawn, before being considered. >>



    +1 >>


    Here here... these drawings/line art come out reminding me of the Mint-A-Badge machines. >>

    Agreed. I'd pick O-08 only because I like Liberty's hair. image

    Otherwise, I can't imagine what any of these would look like in high relief.

    Should they pick a PC design, I'm in for a few more shares of DIS. I see a couple more billion dollar movies coming...
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    kiyotekiyote Posts: 5,627 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Maybe we'll get a Pan Pac $50 reissue in 2018 for the 103rd anniversary of the Pan Pac expo. That'd make sense.
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    DatentypeDatentype Posts: 1,677 ✭✭✭
    Not my first choices but I respect their courage to "propose" something different. Without going political on this i think we know which one will win between the 2 obverses. i'm a buyer either way.
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    derrybderryb Posts: 38,586 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The mint should focus all high relief efforts towards commemorating earlier US coinage. The UHR is a great example. A HR uncirc. gold buffalo would be great.

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    jwittenjwitten Posts: 5,365 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I would have been VERY interested if obverse 12 was picked. Those 2? Not so much.

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