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Trying to learn, has this coin been puttied?

panexpoguypanexpoguy Posts: 1,239 ✭✭✭✭✭
Horse's neck and legs of figure?
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    BustHalfBrianBustHalfBrian Posts: 4,199 ✭✭✭✭
    There's definitely something funky on the high points of the central devices.

    Tough to say with certainty that it's putty w/out seeing it in hand.

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    ranshdowranshdow Posts: 1,447 ✭✭✭✭
    Normally if it's just the high points I might say no, but there is are gashes on the horse's neck, Liberty's right knee, and the field between Liberty's left arm and left leg that look as if someone may have been trying to hide something. But this is super hard from a picture. Turn the coin to an extreme angle, almost edge-on, then take the picture.
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    stevebensteveben Posts: 4,666 ✭✭✭✭✭
    yeah, it's putty or pvc residue. there's something stuck to it. acetone should fix it.
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    BaleyBaley Posts: 22,663 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It looks to me more "smoothed" or tooled in attempt to hide marks, rather than a foreign substance applied, from that image, but agree more pictures would be helpful

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    KoveKove Posts: 2,041 ✭✭✭✭
    There is a foreign substance on that coin.

    The previous puttied pan Pacs I've seen have been puttied on the same parts of the coin.
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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Try using a blacklight...... I have seen putty glow under blacklight....or just give it an acetone soak....Cheers, RickO
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    panexpoguypanexpoguy Posts: 1,239 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thanks for the comment. I don't own the coin. I was looking at it on ebay. It is in an MS 66 PCGS holder and it just looks 'not right'. Based on other threads that talked about using putty, I had a hunch. It almost looks like marks appear on one side of the discoloration, then fade, then reappear on the other side (scratch on horse's neck)
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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,591 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>yeah, it's putty or pvc residue. there's something stuck to it. acetone should fix it. >>

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    BillJonesBillJones Posts: 35,866 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yes I think something has been done to it to smooth out that area.

    One thing about this issue is that the surfaces natually have muted luster. In other words all Pannama-Pacific quarter eagles have a satin finish. If you see one that has bright surfaces, it has either been polished, or it is a counterfeit.
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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,591 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Yes I think something has been done to it to smooth out that area.

    One thing about this issue is that the surfaces natually have muted luster. In other words all Pannama-Pacific quarter eagles have a satin finish. If you see one that has bright surfaces, it has either been polished, or it is a counterfeit. >>



    The ones I've seen also have swirling circular die polish lines in the fields.

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    The coin should be sent in for review and if determined to be putty usually PCGS will do a restoration on it and reholder with a new grade if warranted. I am not sure but I believe if it is putty and the grade goes down PCGS will make the owner whole for the coin. I would recommend that you call PCGS and ask them about this if you are interested in the coin considering your screen name.
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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,591 ✭✭✭✭✭
    problem that the putty is hiding

    << <i>The coin should be sent in for review and if determined to be putty usually PCGS will do a restoration on it and reholder with a new grade if warranted. I am not sure but I believe if it is putty and the grade goes down PCGS will make the owner whole for the coin. I would recommend that you call PCGS and ask them about this if you are interested in the coin considering your screen name. >>



    Good advice. If you dip it in acetone yourself you will have to pay to have PCGS reslab it and you will also lose the grade guarantee should there be some problem that the putty is hiding. Also, you can save shipping costs if you or a trusted dealer give it to PCGS at the next large coin show where PCGS has a table.

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