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rheddenrhedden Posts: 6,650 ✭✭✭✭✭
Suppose you had a time machine, and you could go back to the year 2000 knowing what the coin market has done the past 15 years. What would you buy in coins? Assume you were taking along a bag with $50,000 cash in it (all conveniently dated prior to 2000, so as not to arouse any suspicion). You're also not allowed to visit 2007 or the peak of the gold market and and dump it all; you've got to bring it back to 2015. image I'll post my own thoughts later after I mull over this pointless, hypothetical question.


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    winkywinky Posts: 1,671
    1975 no S proof set, 1797 dollar in AU, 1796 dollar in AU and a 1929 $5 indian. Probably went over my limit but forgot where I was.
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    illini420illini420 Posts: 11,608 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Hmmmm... 2000??? I'd buy ads in the coin magazines and in major city newspapers saying I'd buy any of the new Cheerios Sacagawea dollars that just came out for $10 each!!!! Certainly, I'd get lots of people selling me a $1.01 in "worthless" new coins for $10, right?? Even if I blew half my $50k on advertising... I'd have enough cash to get 2500 coins, nearly half of the 5500 coins supposedly issued image

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    CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 34,048 ✭✭✭✭✭
    25,000 boxes of Cheerios............

    image
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    ARCOARCO Posts: 4,465 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I started collecting in 2000. Barber halves did well for me and I love them, so it would be more Barber halves (I tripled my 12K in 8 years). I am not as experienced in most series, but Bust and Seated material has done well also. With only 50K, it would be only Barber halves. $500K - 5 mil and it would be Barbers, bust and Seated.

    Tyler
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    ambro51ambro51 Posts: 14,430 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'd just go back and enjoy spending time with Mon and Dad
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    crypto79crypto79 Posts: 8,623
    O-mint 20s

    Maybe the best half Disme one could find
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    MGLICKERMGLICKER Posts: 7,995 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I'd just go back and enjoy spending time with Mon and Dad >>



    Great answer. I would have to go back a bit earlier, but with $50,000, H.G. Wells would most likely make an accommodation.
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    ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>25,000 boxes of Cheerios............

    image >>



    Bingo, the correct answer image
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    TopographicOceansTopographicOceans Posts: 6,535 ✭✭✭✭
    I would use it to visit every year since 1794 and bring back 100 coins of each denomination fresh from the mints.
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    jughead1893jughead1893 Posts: 2,145 ✭✭✭✭✭
    20 bust dollars
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    cladkingcladking Posts: 30,165 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>25,000 boxes of Cheerios............

    image >>




    And the cereal would still be "good".
    tempus fugit extra philosophiam.
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    BaleyBaley Posts: 22,663 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If I had a time machine, I'd go back to 1797

    Liberty: Parent of Science & Industry

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    rheddenrhedden Posts: 6,650 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If Baley had a time machine, nothing minted in 1797 or earlier would even be scarce. image
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    Numismatics is too tough a call on crystal ball gazing.

    Gold and silver eagles--get out near the top and buy your numismatics smartly at that point. Who had that foresight?
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    OldEastsideOldEastside Posts: 4,602 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'd bypass 2000 and go back to 1976 and Los Altos, CA and give the money to a couple of fellow guys named Steve for
    20% of there New Company they were operating out of there garage image


    Steve
    Promote the Hobby
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    crypto79crypto79 Posts: 8,623


    << <i>I'd bypass 2000 and go back to 1976 and Los Altos, CA and give the money to a couple of fellow guys named Steve for
    20% of there New Company they were operating out of there garage image


    Steve >>



    He'll just buying the stock in 2000 you would do just fine
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    luckybucksluckybucks Posts: 1,318 ✭✭✭
    I'd buy all of the gold and silver I could get my hands on, visit 2011 and sell it, and take the profits and put it towards an early 1930's St. Gaudens.
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    rheddenrhedden Posts: 6,650 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I'd buy all of the gold and silver I could get my hands on, visit 2011 and sell it, and take the profits and put it towards an early 1930's St. Gaudens. >>



    Cheating! This particular time machine can only travel between 2015 and Y2K, and cannot allow you to visit the top of the precious metals market as specified in the OP. Unfortunately, it's a re-purposed cellphone that developed the ability to grant time travel after someone accidentally dropped it in a dip jar during the 2000 FUN show. Any attempts to visit the top of the PM market result in all coins turning into zinc Lincolns in Genuine-92 holders.

    Might as well embellish the time travel fantasy a little.
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    BaleyBaley Posts: 22,663 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Ok, I'm buying PCGS rattlers and OGH holding AU and MS type coins with dates starting with 179-

    Liberty: Parent of Science & Industry

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    claychaserclaychaser Posts: 4,406 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>If I had a time machine, I'd go back to 1797 >>



    I agree, but I'd prepare by taking a bunch of period coinage with me that has been cleaned, whizzed, grafittied, damaged, and otherwise numismatic junk and trade 'em out.


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    BaleyBaley Posts: 22,663 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'd take bulk packs of bic lighters, ballpoint pens, and disposable razors

    Liberty: Parent of Science & Industry

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    AnkurJAnkurJ Posts: 11,375 ✭✭✭✭
    1793 Chain cents
    Octagonal pan pacs
    All coins kept in bank vaults.
    PCGS Registries
    Box of 20
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    MGLICKERMGLICKER Posts: 7,995 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I'd take bulk packs of bic lighters, ballpoint pens, and disposable razors >>



    Nope. Just a bunch of dollar store solar calculators would be the ticket.
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    DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I sure wouldn't buy Sac dollars!!!

    I would buy all the nice 16-D dimes and 16 quarters I could get!
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    rheddenrhedden Posts: 6,650 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The Chain Cent was a good answer. They increased in value by freakish amounts during the last 15 years. I bought one with VG/F details and some minor damage, no corrosion, for $2000 in 2001. Still have it. Can't buy a blank copper disk with the word "chain" written on it in Sharpie marker for $2000 these days!

    I guess I'd want to pick up an 1802 half dollar or two in high grade, or maybe an 1874-cc dime. Perhaps some 1909-o quarters in XF-AU too! Or maybe just blow the whole $50k on an 1802 half dime, or 1823/2 quarter. So many choices....
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    DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Those are some real good choices Ron!
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    BaleyBaley Posts: 22,663 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>I'd take bulk packs of bic lighters, ballpoint pens, and disposable razors >>



    Nope. Just a bunch of dollar store solar calculators would be the ticket. >>



    Naw, because I'm coming back again in 1802 and 1807, and 1812 and I'm counting on repeat customers who have used up the butane, ink, and blades. Have given this some thought image

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    rheddenrhedden Posts: 6,650 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Note to self: do not give Baley a ride in the mythical time machine.
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    mustangmanbobmustangmanbob Posts: 1,920 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I would pay a team to take out a short list of people and save this country a lot of hassle.
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    rheddenrhedden Posts: 6,650 ✭✭✭✭✭
    You mean the people who designed the gold Buffaloes, right?
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    RelaxnRelaxn Posts: 1,253 ✭✭✭✭✭
    $50,000 in AAPL June 1st 2000 would be worth $753,517 today + $31,000 in dividends.

    You could buy an NGC 64 1796 1/4 in May of 2000 for $36,500 and then an NGC 63 sold for $138,000

    That was just a quick search. So, I would buy AAPL stocks and then bring the money to now and buy a nice the coin I want.
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    BarndogBarndog Posts: 20,526 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I would pay a team to take out a short list of people and save this country a lot of hassle. >>



    those were my thoughts too...but I am sure nobody would believe you if you told them why
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    GrumpyEdGrumpyEd Posts: 4,749 ✭✭✭
    So you can only go back to 2000 then return to 2015?

    Well, first off I would somehow try to give enough info to prevent 9-1-2001 but it might be hard since everyone will think it's not possible.
    Then I would use the 50K on some well picked stock options.
    Ed
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    leothelyonleothelyon Posts: 8,560 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I would like to go back when women were hairy and be a monkey.

    The more qualities observed in a coin, the more desirable that coin becomes!

    My Jefferson Nickel Collection

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Given the premise in the OP, I like the idea of buying the Cheerios coins.....works well with the original idea...Cheers, RickO
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    CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 34,048 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Speaking of "Time Machines," Rod Taylor has passed away.

    time link
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    johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 33,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    id go back and get some higley coppers.
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    BryceMBryceM Posts: 11,938 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Seriously?

    A person with a time machine would have the singular ability to improve the lot of the entire human race........ or you could just use it to make a few bucks.......
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    CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 34,048 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Seriously?

    A person with a time machine would have the singular ability to improve the lot of the entire human race........ or you could just use it to make a few bucks....... >>



    The temptation to go back and change history would be so great that it would eventually destroy us all.
    Numismatist. 54 year member ANA. Former ANA Senior Authenticator. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and ANA Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Also won the PNG's Robert Friedberg Award for "The Enigmatic Lincoln Cents of 1922," Available now from Whitman or Amazon.
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    TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 45,122 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I would have gone bi at the turn of the century with the Library of Congress uncirculated bimetallic specimens. A whole herd of them. Buy and bye.
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    earlyAurumearlyAurum Posts: 788 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Generic Gold. Fantastic returns.
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    MGLICKERMGLICKER Posts: 7,995 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Seriously?

    A person with a time machine would have the singular ability to improve the lot of the entire human race........ or you could just use it to make a few bucks....... >>



    The temptation to go back and change history would be so great that it would eventually destroy us all. >>




    I wonder if one could have saved Detroit in 1967 by tipping off the owner of a speakeasy about an impending raid?
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    CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 34,048 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It all depends on who gets the time machine first. One person might go back and kill the young Hitler. A neo-Nazi might go back and kill the young Churchhill.
    Numismatist. 54 year member ANA. Former ANA Senior Authenticator. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and ANA Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Also won the PNG's Robert Friedberg Award for "The Enigmatic Lincoln Cents of 1922," Available now from Whitman or Amazon.
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    BaleyBaley Posts: 22,663 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Seriously?

    A person with a time machine would have the singular ability to improve the lot of the entire human race........ or you could just use it to make a few bucks....... >>



    The temptation to go back and change history would be so great that it would eventually destroy us all. >>



    Ya got to understand the concept of the butterfly effect, or at least see the movie of the same name, before attempting to change the past trying to improve the present

    Liberty: Parent of Science & Industry

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