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19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,492 ✭✭✭✭
Everybody is familiar with Kim but the question is: What has she done to obtain such popularity?
My first recollection of this popular lady was in a story about how she and Paris Hilton were friends. Now Paris, being the heiress of a multimillion dollar Hotel Chain certainly deserves her recognition. But Kardashian? Before her popularity began, she was the daughter of an attorney and nothing more.

Back to coins.

In a recent thread, a fellow poster was posting about his 1916 3 Leg Buffalo Nickel which got me to think. What is so freaking unusual about a 3 leg Buffalo Nickel that it can command such a premium in the market place? PCGS alone has better than 7,000 of these coins in its population Report yet an MS63 example can still command better than 5 grand! What the heck?

It's a die abraded coin. Nothing really unusual about this since many coins have die abrasion which cause missing elements.
It's a relatively high population coin that can be found relatively easy at any coin show.

So what's up with it? Is it the ultimate Kim Kardashian of Koins?

Can you think of any other coins that have high populations,and are readily available yet are inexplicably popular and expensive amongst the masses as to qualify as a Kim Kardashian of Koinz?
I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.



The name is LEE!

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  • WTCGWTCG Posts: 8,940 ✭✭✭
    Basically any extra high grade example of a common date issue would meet that specification. MS70/PR70 slabbed moderns also.
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  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,574 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Not watching television or going to movies for years kept me out of the loupe, and I have no clue who this person is, so I'll guess Susan B. Anthony Proof Dollars with the Clear S.
  • MGLICKERMGLICKER Posts: 7,995 ✭✭✭
    $50 Pan Pac. It has a large reverse.
  • WTCGWTCG Posts: 8,940 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Not watching television or going to movies for years kept me out of the loupe, and I have no clue who this person is, so I'll guess Susan B. Anthony Proof Dollars with the Clear S. >>



    That's what everybody says but that's a lie. Just like cocaine everybody says they can't stand the Kardashians and they're ready to criticize it in public but you know in private at least half the people are addicted to it. If all else fails ask your kids.
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  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,492 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>$50 Pan Pac. It has a large reverse. >>

    image
    I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.



    The name is LEE!
  • savoyspecialsavoyspecial Posts: 7,310 ✭✭✭✭
    Any piedfort

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  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,295 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>That's what everybody says but that's a lie. Just like cocaine everybody says they can't stand the Kardashians and they're ready to criticize it in public but you know in private at least half the people are addicted to it. If all else fails ask your kids. >>


    So are you putting yourself in the public or private Kardashian addict camp?

    Anyway, I would put the promotional slab tag as the Kardashian or Koins.
  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,789 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The all time Kim Kardashian of coins was that baseball $5 gold that sold for $100,000 .... If that transaction really happened.

    That was that coin's "15 minutes of fame."
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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>$50 Pan Pac. It has a large reverse. >>



    image Good one.... could be LOTD (laugh of the day).... Cheers, RickO
  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,574 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Not watching television or going to movies for years kept me out of the loupe, and I have no clue who this person is, so I'll guess Susan B. Anthony Proof Dollars with the Clear S. >>



    That's what everybody says but that's a lie. Just like cocaine everybody says they can't stand the Kardashians and they're ready to criticize it in public but you know in private at least half the people are addicted to it. If all else fails ask your kids. >>



    What's a lie ? That I don't watch television ? Why would I bother my daughters with asking who the Kim Kardashian of coins is when they couldn't tell me the difference between a Susan B Anthony and a $4 Stella ? …. they're busy raising children.
  • lasvegasteddylasvegasteddy Posts: 10,432 ✭✭✭
    1922 no "D" lincoln kinda leads the price parade here

    if so abundant...go out and find some discovery examples other then the 1937-d and report back

    some kennedy collectors love a true no "FG"....no one is razing them nor lincoln collectors with 1922 no "D"
    fame can be found in a sweet 1937-d 3 leg...has and always will be the case
    as a kid in the 60's i always wished i had a 37-d 3 legged buffalo

    why all the anti-buffalo sentiment here exactly?
    this hobby has many a lil camps to camp in...some love "IKE'S"
    in which i don't bash them over

    and yes i know a forthcoming anti-lasvegasteddy reply is on it's way....i'll grab some popcorn and let ya have final word
    as none of this stuff is anything to be or get worked up over...like that chunky monkey you make reference of here

    now this tv star had something going on....his famous quote....applies image
    image
    everything in life is but merely on loan to us by our appreciation....lose your appreciation and see


  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,663 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'll leave the KK discussion to others, but as far as the coin, In a recent thread, a fellow poster was posting about his 1916 3 Leg Buffalo Nickel which got me to think. What is so freaking unusual about a 3 leg Buffalo Nickel that it can command such a premium in the market place? PCGS alone has better than 7,000 of these coins in its population Report yet an MS63 example can still command better than 5 grand! What the heck?

    My feeling on this is the fact that the abrasion changes the design elements enough to the name the coin "three leg" and that's a catchy name.

    Same with the Bearded Goddess, to me it's just another die break, but the way it looks, and especially that catchy name, make people want it.

    Same with "speared buffalo", remember that one? how about "pissing minuteman"? now there's a blast from the past.

    IMO, they're all overvalued, and back to KK, so is she. There's no accounting for "popularity", some things are valuable simply because OTHER people think they're valuable.

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  • TiborTibor Posts: 3,690 ✭✭✭✭✭
    While not abraded dies, these two VAMS are certainly way
    over rated. The 1890-CC Tailbar is very common. The 1891-CC
    Spitting Eagle is also very common. At the last ANA show I
    attended there were over 24 of each raw and TPG.
  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,492 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Not watching television or going to movies for years kept me out of the loupe, and I have no clue who this person is, so I'll guess Susan B. Anthony Proof Dollars with the Clear S. >>



    That's what everybody says but that's a lie. Just like cocaine everybody says they can't stand the Kardashians and they're ready to criticize it in public but you know in private at least half the people are addicted to it. If all else fails ask your kids. >>

    I never tried cocaine and I'd never try KK even in my wildest dreams which is why I posted the thread.

    I can't believe her talentless popularity and I find it difficult to believe the price of a 3 legger. Both are where they are simply because of public "perception" which has been carefully and masterfully guided through publicity and marketing.
    I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.



    The name is LEE!
  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,492 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>The all time Kim Kardashian of coins was that baseball $5 gold that sold for $100,000 .... If that transaction really happened.

    That was that coin's "15 minutes of fame." >>

    I think you are referring to the Kennedy but its not in the same camp as that price will never be repeated.

    Kardashian and the 3 leg on the other hand have been around for quite a while.

    I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.



    The name is LEE!
  • TonerGuyTonerGuy Posts: 590 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Everybody is familiar with Kim but the question is: What has she done to obtain such popularity?
    My first recollection of this popular lady was in a story about how she and Paris Hilton were friends. Now Paris, being the heiress of a multimillion dollar Hotel Chain certainly deserves her recognition. But Kardashian? Before her popularity began, she was the daughter of an attorney and nothing more.

    >>



    She starred in a sex tape with RayJ distributed by Vivid Entertainment. Thats what made her popular. She followed in Paris's footsteps in that regard.

  • OnWithTheHuntOnWithTheHunt Posts: 1,269 ✭✭✭✭✭


    In a recent thread, a fellow poster was posting about his 1916 3 Leg Buffalo Nickel which got me to think. What is so freaking unusual about a 3 leg Buffalo Nickel that it can command such a premium in the market place? PCGS alone has better than 7,000 of these coins in its population Report yet an MS63 example can still command better than 5 grand! What the heck?

    It's a die abraded coin. Nothing really unusual about this since many coins have die abrasion which cause missing elements.
    It's a relatively high population coin that can be found relatively easy at any coin show.


    Suggest you read the post you're referring to more closely. As to the collectibilityand popularity of these coins, its been discussed pretty extensively
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  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,492 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>1922 no "D" lincoln kinda leads the price parade here

    if so abundant...go out and find some discovery examples other then the 1937-d and report back

    some kennedy collectors love a true no "FG"....no one is razing them nor lincoln collectors with 1922 no "D"
    fame can be found in a sweet 1937-d 3 leg...has and always will be the case
    as a kid in the 60's i always wished i had a 37-d 3 legged buffalo

    why all the anti-buffalo sentiment here exactly?
    this hobby has many a lil camps to camp in...some love "IKE'S"
    in which i don't bash them over

    and yes i know a forthcoming anti-lasvegasteddy reply is on it's way....i'll grab some popcorn and let ya have final word
    as none of this stuff is anything to be or get worked up over...like that chunky monkey you make reference of here

    now this tv star had something going on....his famous quote....applies image
    image >>

    Nobody, especially me, is bashing buffalo's.

    I am referring to the "market" and the "marketing" of coins as there is no anti-buffalo sentiment here. Just a question with a relative comparison.
    I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.



    The name is LEE!
  • lasvegasteddylasvegasteddy Posts: 10,432 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    I am referring to the "market" and the "marketing" of coins as there is no anti-buffalo sentiment here. Just a question with a relative comparison. >>



    public apology then is owed by me here
    i'm sorry
    hopefully you accept that image

    i misread between the lines here
    everything in life is but merely on loan to us by our appreciation....lose your appreciation and see


  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,492 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    I am referring to the "market" and the "marketing" of coins as there is no anti-buffalo sentiment here. Just a question with a relative comparison. >>



    public apology then is owed by me here
    i'm sorry
    hopefully you accept that image

    i misread between the lines here >>

    Apology accepted. I love the Buffalo Nickel as it represents a true sculpture in American Coinage. The fields aren't flat like so many other coins but actually sculpted on the earlier versions.

    I don't collect them because the set would be cost prohibitive at this point in time but I truly enjoy those that CrazyHoundDog posts.
    I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.



    The name is LEE!
  • Successful marketing is the answer to why things become popular. Think diamonds. Before DeBeers came up with "a diamond is forever", a giving a woman a diamond ring was not the norm. Now it is expected.
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  • Type2Type2 Posts: 13,985 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Ya and back in the day a dark diamond would be junk and now it's a chocolate diamond and worth 3x imageimage


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  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,574 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Just got off the phone with my oldest daughter. I asked her if she knew who this was. She said, " Oh, I don't know father. She's some woman who is popular just for being popular" I asked what talent she had and what made her popular. She said, "only that she's made popular". Now I'm thinking the WIDE RIM Susan B. Anthony from '79, instead of the Clear S. Proof '81 SBA.

    More collectors would prefer looking through common change for a wide rim, as opposed to seeking out the clear S in select proof sets that are likely all found. Probably easier and more fun to cherry pick bank rolls , and maybe even find a Cheerios Sacagawea, than to buy that Clear S for full retail at a shop or online.

    Anyway, kudos to whoever she is. Sounds like she's making bank.
  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'd more so consider a coin like Kim Kardashian if it comes up for auction every few months image
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  • FullStrikeFullStrike Posts: 4,353 ✭✭✭
    Cant really stand that KK person. Why do you need to bring any coparisons to anything numismatic?

    If anything compare a McDonalds McDouble to that person. They're both widely know ( pun intended) and very cheap
    and always available to any Joe with some change in their pocket.
  • ms70ms70 Posts: 13,956 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Norse Medal. Thick.

    The way the mint is going you can expect a coin with her and that thing she's married to on it.

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  • DBSTrader2DBSTrader2 Posts: 3,498 ✭✭✭✭
    I'd think the closest thing to KK would be any "whizzed" coin!image
  • FullStrikeFullStrike Posts: 4,353 ✭✭✭
    If a person was inclined to dredge a sewer, any coin recovered would be a KK Coin.


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  • ms70ms70 Posts: 13,956 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I'd think the closest thing to KK would be any "whizzed" coin!image >>



    I think you mean puttied.

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  • braddickbraddick Posts: 24,800 ✭✭✭✭✭
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  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,492 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>In a recent thread, a fellow poster was posting about his 1916 3 Leg Buffalo Nickel which got me to think. What is so freaking unusual about a 3 leg Buffalo Nickel that it can command such a premium in the market place? PCGS alone has better than 7,000 of these coins in its population Report yet an MS63 example can still command better than 5 grand! What the heck?

    It's a die abraded coin. Nothing really unusual about this since many coins have die abrasion which cause missing elements.
    It's a relatively high population coin that can be found relatively easy at any coin show.


    Suggest you read the post you're referring to more closely. As to the collectibilityand popularity of these coins, its been discussed pretty extensively >>

    Might I suggest you read my post more carefully since I never referred to the 1916 coin but referred to the more expensive and authentic 3 Leg Buffalo. Technically, the 1916 isn't a 3 leg coin anyway since it is die fill and not die abrasion. Similar to the Die Filled No FG's vs the die abraded No FG coins.

    Big Difference.

    I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.



    The name is LEE!
  • C0INB0YC0INB0Y Posts: 627 ✭✭


    << <i>$50 Pan Pac. It has a large reverse. >>



    Plus it is completely Counterfeit, not having any value what so ever.
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    WOOF! WOOF! WOOF!

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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,824 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The 3-legged buffalo nickel was caused by over polishing the die during normal die maintenance. When a die started showing signs of erosion or of being clashed it was removed from the press and the die face was polished. Since the leg was in shallow relief excessive polishing removed it from the face of the die.

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  • sparky64sparky64 Posts: 7,044 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I don't get the clamor about the "First Strike" labels.

    What did they ever do to get so much attention?

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  • garrynotgarrynot Posts: 1,874 ✭✭✭


    << <i>While not abraded dies, these two VAMS are certainly way
    over rated. The 1890-CC Tailbar is very common. The 1891-CC
    Spitting Eagle is also very common. At the last ANA show I
    attended there were over 24 of each raw and TPG. >>



    Agree. However there is no premium on the Spitting Eagle. Actually it can be challenging to find a '91-cc that is not a Spitting Eagle.
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,824 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I don't get the clamor about the "First Strike" labels.

    What did they ever do to get so much attention? >>



    Aren't they rare because they are one of the first 100,000 struck?

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  • garrynotgarrynot Posts: 1,874 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I don't get the clamor about the "First Strike" labels.

    What did they ever do to get so much attention? >>



    It's just a marketing ploy to create some interest in Mint products.
  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,492 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>I don't get the clamor about the "First Strike" labels.

    What did they ever do to get so much attention? >>



    It's just a marketing ploy to create some interest in Mint products. >>

    Actually, First Strike™ Labels fit quite nicely into todays coin collecting environment where the TPG slab is king as it provides a different way of collecting these otherwise common bullion coins.

    BUT, it has nothing to do with the intent behind this thread which is basically, making something out of nothing which appears to have lasting value for whatever reason.

    I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.



    The name is LEE!
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,824 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I'd think the closest thing to KK would be any "whizzed" coin!image >>



    What about a coin that's been "tooled"?

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