Another Nobel Medal up for Auction - This one has a taint
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<< <i>There are far more tainted Nobel prizes than that one. >>
I can think of one that was awarded for political reasons and has yet to be earned.
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The Nobel prize should have been shared with Rosalind Franklin.
<< <i>Watson has always been a kook. He's the 'super brainy devoid of appropriate social skills' type that should stay in a lab and not engage in public speaking.
The Nobel prize should have been shared with Rosalind Franklin. >>
That "might find it" part isn't super brainy.
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<< <i>There are far more tainted Nobel prizes than that one. >>
I can think of one that was awarded for political reasons and has yet to be earned.
Ah, yes. The first Nobel "future achievement award".
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However, I'm shocked that people still invite him to speak.
It was a relatively unimportant one, just the Nobel prize for the integrated circuit transistor. Not like the modern world could not work fine without semiconductors.
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When IC's are made, they are created on circular discs of silicon, called wafers, and then cut into individual chips. A large wafer (300mm) could have literally trillions of transistors on it. One of the many devices was the main processor for a cell phone. We started 100,000 a day of these.
Sometimes Jack would autograph a wafer a wafer. I have 3 of them tucked away, like an Edison autographed light bulb or an autographed Gutenberg bible.
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<< <i>There are far more tainted Nobel prizes than that one. >>
I can think of one that was awarded for political reasons and has yet to be earned.
Bingo! You guys win the gold star for the day.
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<< <i>There are far more tainted Nobel prizes than that one. >>
I can think of one that was awarded for political reasons and has yet to be earned.
Only one?
I can think of at least two. There was also the "almost president."
<< <i>For several years, the person who had the office next to me was a Nobel Prize winner.
It was a relatively unimportant one, just the Nobel prize for the integrated circuit transistor. Not like the modern world could not work fine without semiconductors.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Kilby
When IC's are made, they are created on circular discs of silicon, called wafers, and then cut into individual chips. A large wafer (300mm) could have literally trillions of transistors on it. One of the many devices was the main processor for a cell phone. We started 100,000 a day of these.
Sometimes Jack would autograph a wafer a wafer. I have 3 of them tucked away, like an Edison autographed light bulb or an autographed Gutenberg bible. >>
Awesome! That's cool to have such a frontline connection to the IC revolution!
On a visit to a chip fab, I was given a wafer reject. It was PR70 in appearance, but it didn't pass QC. The silvery gray color gave it a coin-like appearance, while the large diameter made it seem medallic. Later, I learned how fragile the thin-sliced pure silicon wafers are.
An intact one with Kilby's autograph is a fine keepsake, no doubt!
The exclusion of scientific enquiry into any possible outcome is, essentially, an abandonment of scientific and intellectual rigor.
We could go with "Jews are smart" ......
Wait for it......
Wait for it......
but I'm anticipating seeing my family later today. . .
edited to add: HYPOTHETICAL - How about the good doctor indulging what some might see as a prejudicial opinion guiding his investigations? This is not Dr. Mengele. His conclusions are correct. There IS a genetic predisposition not only towards intelligence but lack of it. Massive doses of vitamin C boost intellectual functioning for 25% of the targeted group.
Is he still a schmuck? Going with Nobels, Shockley totally missed the boat on vitamin C, didn't he?
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The exclusion of scientific enquiry into any possible outcome is, essentially, an abandonment of scientific and intellectual rigor.
We could go with "Jews are smart" ......
Wait for it......
Wait for it......
but I'm anticipating seeing my family later today. . .
edited to add: How about the good doctor indulging what some might see as a prejudicial opinion guiding his investigations? This is not Dr. Mengele. His conclusions are correct. There IS a genetic predisposition not only towards intelligence but lack of it. Massive doses of vitamin C boost intellectual functioning for 25% of the targeted group.
Is he still a schmuck?
Going with Nobels, Shockley totally missed the boat on vitamin C, didn't he? >>
Let's indulge the intelligence is linked to cranial volume.
Or relate it to low brows.
Are you still waiting for an intelligent black person to be born?
Some things just don't get past the smell test.
Edited to add that this position is not "super brainy," is easy to expose, it wasn't internally dismissed and that is both troublesome from a race point of view and from a science point of view.
It always amazes me how the higher level people are more often offered a "pass" when it should be less often....
<< <i>As someone who has worked in a lab with DNA, and takes courses heavily based on DNA and genetics, this item and the letters are just as attractive to me as most rare US coins. Alas, I am a humble college student and will not be bidding.
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<< <i>Well, as a professionally employed molecular biologist, I'm not that impressed by Watson's Nobel or his papers. >>
Agreed - Crick was the much greater intellect by far
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The book Recombinant DNA, written James Watson with Michael Gilman, Jan Witkowski and Mark Zoller, got me through graduate school. I was a scuffling graduate student at Columbia University pounding my head against the wall in a genetics course taught by Martin Chalfie, which was based heavily on the transmission genetics work of Marty's thesis advisor, Sydney Brenner (Sydney would also go on to win the Nobel Prize, in 2002). I had multiple degrees in chemistry and had never taken either molecular biology or genetics when Marty handed me his personal copy of Recombinant DNA one afternoon while we spoke in his office. He told me to take the book and use it and that with my background it would be trivial for me to learn molecular biology. It saved my scientific life. Marty could have easily brushed me off since he was knee deep in the early stages of green fluorescent protein (GFP) and this work would earn Marty his own Nobel Prize in 2008. I still have the book and it is, in fact, at my side as I type this response. Every time I look at it I think of James Watson, Sydney Brenner and Marty Chalfie (all three of whom have now won the Nobel Prize and one whom I consider a friend).
I don't know James Watson, though I have attended lectures given by him and have casually spoken to him, but the work that went into all of this was absolutely stunning.
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From the New York Times article:
<< <i>Dr. Watson was only 24 when he made the discovery, with Dr. Crick and Maurice Wilkins. (Some have questioned whether Dr. Wilkins’s colleague Rosalind Franklin, whose X-ray image of a molecule of DNA helped clarify the discovery, should have received more credit.) >>
As was already posted, this is the more relevant controversy or taint about the awarding of the Nobel at the time.
(Much later remarks by Watson may be a taint on his character but not on the Nobel).
But I'd say having Rosalind Franklin shut out is a standard problem with trying to give an individual award in a team game (or limiting it to 3 people).
<< <i>Cool, thanks for sharing, Tom.
From the New York Times article:
<< <i>Dr. Watson was only 24 when he made the discovery, with Dr. Crick and Maurice Wilkins. (Some have questioned whether Dr. Wilkins’s colleague Rosalind Franklin, whose X-ray image of a molecule of DNA helped clarify the discovery, should have received more credit.) >>
As was already posted, this is the more relevant controversy or taint about the awarding of the Nobel at the time.
(Much later remarks by Watson may be a taint on his character but not on the Nobel).
But I'd say having Rosalind Franklin shut out is a standard problem with trying to give an individual award in a team game (or limiting it to 3 people). >>
She had also passed away and they do not give out Nobel prizes posthumously. But yes, a huge omission that she was not recognized then.
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