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1965 sms set that's exciting to me..."UPDATE-NO SOUP FER ME"

"it's nothing like DHeath's set that was a MOOSE"...no better set will ever be found above his...YOU SUCK SET

yes 1965 sms sets can be exciting to meimage

tracking shows it's enroute...seller confirmed coins imaged are coins sent
of all the years looking i've never seen a better looking cent in a set as this...still in envelope so shadows and lights play their toll..."but that lincoln can't hide"
i'm liking this one..."ALOT"
will update when in hand...then if worthy...when it grades too

seller image's...all i did was hit auto focus on...regardless of any outcome...this is one very high-end 1965 sms lincoln in the raw for viewing pleasure
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everything in life is but merely on loan to us by our appreciation....lose your appreciation and see


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    BustHalfBrianBustHalfBrian Posts: 4,199 ✭✭✭✭
    Ooh, that one looks close...

    Staying tuned image
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    MilkmanDanMilkmanDan Posts: 3,768 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Very nice. I hope this turns out well for you.
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    CameonutCameonut Posts: 7,432 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That cent looks very encouraging. image

    “In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock." - Thomas Jefferson

    My digital cameo album 1950-64 Cameos - take a look!

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    TookybanditTookybandit Posts: 3,424 ✭✭✭✭
    Beautiful! image

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    cladkingcladking Posts: 29,974 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The cent jumps right out of the set.

    That nickel looks pretty good as well.
    tempus fugit extra philosophiam.
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    gripgrip Posts: 9,962 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>The cent jumps right out of the set.

    That nickel looks pretty good as well. >>



    image...Good luck.
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    coindudeonebaycoindudeonebay Posts: 1,735 ✭✭✭
    Teddy, that cent is very promising. I hope it turns into a $500 coin for you!
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    SanctionIISanctionII Posts: 12,995 ✭✭✭✭✭
    LVT.

    DHeath's set is a MOOSE. Maybe he will reply to this thread and post a photograph of it.

    As for your new set, the cent is promising. It appears to have fields that are possibly nicely mirrored and frost on the devices. On the reverse it appears that the spaces between the pillars are not frosted at all, so that is a negative. The mint cello can mask the true look of the coin and of course so can the photo. The frost and mirrors may actually be better than or worse than what is shown in the photo. Can't wait to see your photo of the cent out of the cello.

    The nickel, dime and half dollar look run of the mill.

    The quarter is interesting. The finishes on SMS coins covers a broad array of lloks. I can not tell if the quarter's appearance is due to haze that has developed on the coin, or whether the appearance is due to the way the coin was struck. My guess is that the quarter has haze on it, but if I am wrong an up close photo of the quarter would be nice to see. The quarter just looks out of place compared to most of the other SMS quarters I have seen.
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    ModCrewmanModCrewman Posts: 4,054 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm surprised at the optimism being expressed by knowledgeable board members. I'm far less optimistic than those who have posted previously. The photo looks to be quite juiced to highlight the contrast to me, I say this due to the look of the half and the medallion. Accordingly, I'd expect the cent to be rather unremarkable when it arrives.

    I like Teddy, and he actually sent me photos of just the cent yesterday. Although I hope I'm wrong for Teddy's sake, I'd have passed based upon the pictures alone.
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    CameonutCameonut Posts: 7,432 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Here is my example of a cameo SMS for the date - 65 cam - purchased in 1997 for $350. I was told back then that I paid "crazy money" for it and I simply responded that I'd buy all the 1965 cameos they could find for that price. Of course, nobody came forward with any for me to buy.

    With these coins it is all about the mirrors -for PCGS to designate them as cameo, they have to have decent mirrors and some frost. Finding decent mirrors is harder than finding frost.

    In the meantime I see that PCGS has decided to use my coin as their example in Coin Facts:
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    “In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock." - Thomas Jefferson

    My digital cameo album 1950-64 Cameos - take a look!

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    What is that hit left of Lincoln's head? I hope that's on the plastic and not the coin.
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    << <i>I'm surprised at the optimism being expressed by knowledgeable board members. I'm far less optimistic than those who have posted previously. The photo looks to be quite juiced to highlight the contrast to me, I say this due to the look of the half and the medallion. Accordingly, I'd expect the cent to be rather unremarkable when it arrives.

    I like Teddy, and he actually sent me photos of just the cent yesterday. Although I hope I'm wrong for Teddy's sake, I'd have passed based upon the pictures alone. >>



    I also agree. The half dollar looks too bright.
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    Very educational thread folks, thank you! Now I've got to go take a look in the SDB...
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    SanctionIISanctionII Posts: 12,995 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I guess I am an optimist at heart, hoping for good fortune to befall others.

    My reply does have the usual qualifiers, but after reading Modcrewman's reply I took a second look at the photo of the SMS set. It does look like the photo is juiced. If so, then the frost on the cent in hand will look weaker than what is shown in the photo. The mirrored fields do look promising and as Cameonut has pointed out mirrored fields on SMS coinage is more difficult to find than frosted devices.

    So, assuming you have received delivery of the set, what does the cent look like in hand, out of the cello?
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    CameonutCameonut Posts: 7,432 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>What is that hit left of Lincoln's head? I hope that's on the plastic and not the coin. >>



    Good question! It could be a struck thru fiber. Struck thru fibers are often seen on cameos as the pressmen changed to new dies. Rags were used to clean the dies and often small fibers are left behind to be struck into the first few coin or two. PCGS usually knocks the grade down a point or so, but it is a good indication of fresh dies. You can see one to the right of Lincoln's head on my coin.

    “In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock." - Thomas Jefferson

    My digital cameo album 1950-64 Cameos - take a look!

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    lasvegasteddylasvegasteddy Posts: 10,492 ✭✭✭
    thanks everyone
    to the best of my ability...i'll shoot it when it arrives friday but if it passes my scouring over it...off for a piggyback that's going out soon

    i'll look at time stamp...but 1st one who pm's me with interest in set leftovers...everything but the cent...gets um...it's a freebie

    these sms lincolns are what i consider "RARE COIN"...if you get one blessed by our host as a cameo
    to date...only 73 cam...3 dcam have such blessing
    these pops are safe as no one cracks out if designated...perhaps some have crossover skewing but for the most part...pop is respected

    most fail for....flow lines in field...our host is real sticklers for mirrored fields...frost can be mild so long as there
    the frost between pillars is a mute point...i had 3 sms examples in cameo in which 2 didn't have between the pillars

    minor strike through dust and fibers are common...also common is carbon spots...sadly many have them...or that copper tarnish i call it

    it's a thrill or chase to me...more so a goal...to have one blessed by our host as cameo that i found in the wild raw

    coindudeonebay......."I hope it turns into a $500 coin for you!"...hehehe...gotta love ya brother...still do
    cameonut..................." I see that PCGS has decided to use my coin as their example in Coin Facts"....that's class to say the least
    modcrewman............"The photo looks to be quite juiced to highlight the contrast"...yeah i hit auto-focus was all...i'll post up non auto-focus...raw seller image
    kaline6....................."Very educational thread folks, thank you! Now I've got to go take a look in the SDB"...they are $$$ coins...there's a bounty for them...they are hunt worthy
    sanction II..............i'll image the quarter too...probably just haze
    coinWW2.................."What is that hit left of Lincoln's head? I hope that's on the plastic and not the coin"...fingers crossed it's the plastic...one minor doesn't hurt much

    seller image no auto-focus...any who have looked though know...this is one you don't just glance over...$15 for this set...probably one of the safer bets in vegas
    just had to wait for confirmation...coin imaged was to be sent....many sms offerings use stock or old photo's...that's a trap
    some images....sellers use a lamp shade and focus on single coins
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    everything in life is but merely on loan to us by our appreciation....lose your appreciation and see


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    uofa1285uofa1285 Posts: 2,252 ✭✭
    Beautiful!
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    BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,790 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It does look like it has potential.
    Wishing you the best on it when it comes

    I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment

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    EthanEthan Posts: 315 ✭✭
    I too hope this works out for you......A Cam 65 Lincoln...
    "A gun is like a parachute. If you need one, and don't have one, you'll probably never need one again.

    “I want you to remember that no * ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb * die for his country”
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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Best of luck....looks promising...Cheers, RickO
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    lasvegasteddylasvegasteddy Posts: 10,492 ✭✭✭
    so of the many things most are better at...is these darn lil micro objects to image...rrrggghhhh

    one of these days guys...i will hit me a homerun yet...like all you seem to do left n right...it's just not today again
    where's my crow pie for being excited...image

    ok so in hand...NO SOUP FOR THIS 65 LINCOLN
    he had some minor spots...but fields...just not liquid enough...enough mint bloom to tell he won't make the cut

    a lil comparison by a 66 i have in same darn position in life...but a one up on his new brother..."KLOSE KOWBOYS" is all

    1st my 66...a sellers image here....close to the edge but he's not gunna fall over it
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    ok my best at shooting these (don't laff or get coffee on your keyboards)
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    everything in life is but merely on loan to us by our appreciation....lose your appreciation and see


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    SanctionIISanctionII Posts: 12,995 ✭✭✭✭✭
    What does the quarter look like? Hazed over?

    Sorry about the cent. It still looks good.
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    lasvegasteddylasvegasteddy Posts: 10,492 ✭✭✭
    that quarter just looks like a creamy-type even surfaced is all....not really hazy though
    no ones claimed these freebies yet...free shipping too...UPDATE...SURPLUS DENOM'S FINALLY CLAIMED

    i just wanted...still do...this lincoln...as it is..rare for a lincoln to even come close to cameo in 1965

    hehehe...65 quarters...i'm still excited mine...even though i coughed up the $205 for it...in 66cam...image
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    everything in life is but merely on loan to us by our appreciation....lose your appreciation and see


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    keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Ted, nothing beats looking at these "in-hand" so keep hunting but try to get out to some shows/shops.
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    lasvegasteddylasvegasteddy Posts: 10,492 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Ted, nothing beats looking at these "in-hand" so keep hunting but try to get out to some shows/shops. >>



    you bet...i do need to find the local scene on shows
    i've only been to 2 here in vegas...the pcgs one but another low key one i found way better
    alot of stuff that doesn't see the light of the internet or even shops was out n about

    i seriously appreciate all the replies from everyone here...this forum rocks...STILL

    8K thread giveaway right around the corner with my goofyness adding to count readily...STAY TUNED

    everything in life is but merely on loan to us by our appreciation....lose your appreciation and see


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    WaterSportWaterSport Posts: 7,039 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Well what would be life with out a few chances taken. I admire your effort, and we all know that those who make the effort - will score eventually.

    WS
    Proud recipient of the coveted PCGS Forum "You Suck" Award Thursday July 19, 2007 11:33 PM and December 30th, 2011 at 8:50 PM.
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    lasvegasteddylasvegasteddy Posts: 10,492 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Well what would be life with out a few chances taken. I admire your effort, and we all know that those who make the effort - will score eventually.

    WS >>



    the love of a good set's work probably applies to surfing too aye...image
    rock on
    everything in life is but merely on loan to us by our appreciation....lose your appreciation and see


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    gripgrip Posts: 9,962 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Well what would be life with out a few chances taken. I admire your effort, and we all know that those who make the effort - will score eventually.

    WS >>



    Well said! I also think his attitude is worth more than a 400.00 coin. Like your style lasvegasteddy.
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    BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,790 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Sorry it didn't hit a homerun for you, but I do appreciate your attitude with the hunt!

    Hint: When figuring out shows where you might find a hidden score, see if there are the small shows where collectors set up. We have 2 up here that fit that bill...one is in November and the other is the Boeing show in January. I haven't had a homerun, but I did have a couple of doubles.....found some nice older ANACS holdered morgans from an older collector getting out of coins. He asked a fair price and I paid it. Coins were his from when first submitted 20+ years ago I believe he said.
    No...nothing like MS67 or anything, but just some really nice MS63/64 for fair prices in cool holders.

    I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment

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    19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,503 ✭✭✭✭
    Soooo, lessons learned?


    Try to not get too excited over a photograph regardless of what its showing because photographs can be "tweeked" whereas the coins that are being imaged, cannot without repercussions.

    This includes ALL photographs of coins (and even some super models)!
    I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.



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    LotsoLuckLotsoLuck Posts: 3,786 ✭✭✭
    And you sure seem to be getting the excitement and fun that everyone should be getting out of this hobby image
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    lasvegasteddylasvegasteddy Posts: 10,492 ✭✭✭
    "Soooo, lessons learned?"

    never...as soon as i shut down on the possibilities in life...that lil "you suck" will pop up

    hehehe
    you bet...gotta have fun...get excited...play my hands...good n bad...get used to eating my crow pie as i do
    chances are my goofyness...mistakes...losses and wins
    will add a lil something to these forums

    perhaps i should get a stuffed skunk like madmarty's chicken as i love a good lil stinker and how locheed put that skunk on the sr-71 from their skunk works factory

    peace ya'll

    hey
    if it was a full blown cam in there...some here would of seen what they can look like in an image online and score one too...as i've yet to give up

    to make a pcgs 1965 sms cameo cent...yeah that's a club i wanna sneak in...image

    at least i'm not into shriver dollar commemorative's right...image
    everything in life is but merely on loan to us by our appreciation....lose your appreciation and see


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    DHeathDHeath Posts: 8,472 ✭✭✭
    Happy hunting friend.
    Developing theory is what we are meant to do as academic researchers
    and it sets us apart from practitioners and consultants. Gregor

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