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Does this coin look okay or AT?

mdwoodsmdwoods Posts: 5,557 ✭✭✭
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It's in a SEGS MS66 holder. I picked it up a few weeks ago. It looks okay in hand, almost too pretty. lol

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  • CoinJunkieCoinJunkie Posts: 8,772 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Looks NT to me, and I like it. Wallet toning?
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  • TomBTomB Posts: 21,997 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Going simply on the images provided and the interpretation off of my monitor; I would pass on this coin.
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  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,556 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Knowing that pics can be deceptive for things like this, even when not done deceptively on purpose, I would lean towards NT.
    I don't see anything AT like, and the breaks in toning are more like what I would expect from some NT with similar to "milkspot toning" (like on SAEs). Haven't seen that on AT really.


    Now, that all said, I have no idea about the grade so not sure if SEGS gave it a higher grade than it deserves due to the toning...and to bump the price...or what, but for the toning, I lean NT.

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  • jhdflajhdfla Posts: 3,030 ✭✭✭
    The toning looks suspect to me... like 'peel off toning', or something like that. I could be totally wrong, but that's my first impression.
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  • Cam40Cam40 Posts: 8,146 ✭
    I vote NT.
  • TallGuyTallGuy Posts: 122 ✭✭
    NT
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  • Type2Type2 Posts: 13,985 ✭✭✭✭✭
    NT but it took a bath in acetone. image


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  • CommemDudeCommemDude Posts: 2,318 ✭✭✭✭✭
    AT, and I've never seen another CT with that toning..probably cooked in a paper wrap or envelope to accelerate toning
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  • YorkshiremanYorkshireman Posts: 4,583 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Even if it is Natural, it is too splotchy for my taste.
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  • braddickbraddick Posts: 24,650 ✭✭✭✭✭
    A lot of 'crackle toning' (with the golds/greens) on early commemorative got through with SEGS years ago.
    They were considered AT at the time as few, if any crossed.

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  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,685 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I would pass on that one. I don't care for the holes in the toning which says to me there is something artificial about it.
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  • ShamikaShamika Posts: 18,785 ✭✭✭✭
    Although the Connecticut commemorative is one of my favorite designs in all of numismatics, I've never owned an example. However, I always stop to admire examples when I come across them. With that in mind, not once have I ever seen one with this much toning. The vast majority of the examples I've seen were bright white with the remainder only slightly toned. But I'll admit I see no problem with the colors and believe the toning to be NT.

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  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,685 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Although the Connecticut commemorative is one of my favorite designs in all of numismatics, I've never owned an example. However, I always stop to admire examples when I come across them. With that in mind, not once have I ever seen one with this much toning. The vast majority of the examples I've seen were bright white with the remainder only slightly toned. But I'll admit I see no problem with the colors and believe the toning to be NT. >>



    I have seen a couple of toned Connecticut half dollars that were toned from the holder (a plush case) in which a some or few of them were sold back in the day. It was not overly dark, and it is even. It did not have "blank spots" like this piece.
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  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,638 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Looks original to me.
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  • AMRCAMRC Posts: 4,280 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I can't find any Red flags.
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  • ModCrewmanModCrewman Posts: 4,041 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm in the NT camp. IMHO the splotchiness supports that.
  • cheezhedcheezhed Posts: 5,966 ✭✭✭✭✭
    NT and I actually like it.
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  • lcoopielcoopie Posts: 8,873 ✭✭✭✭✭
    AT

    Both sides are so uniform with those "spaces"

    Something not right

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  • ms70ms70 Posts: 13,956 ✭✭✭✭✭
    NT. Really nice coin.

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  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,313 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>NT and I actually like it. >>




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    A lot of Connecticuts have this mottled toning with silver patches. The last one I owned was an old fatty NGC 66 with similar patchiness. That coin also had Christmas colors of red and emerald green. It traded for 2X MS66 money. That same mottled toning with silver or gray patches is seen quite often on choice/gem original 19th century silver type coins.

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  • mercurydimeguymercurydimeguy Posts: 4,625 ✭✭✭✭
    No doubt NT, I've seen many Mercs like this and other coins as well. The blotchy non-toned areas were in contact with something the coin was in, so they didn't tone, that's why there are blotchy areas on both sides. Cool coin, I know exactly the look as I've owned some coins that apparently where in the same "whatever" yours grew up in image
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  • Wabbit2313Wabbit2313 Posts: 7,268 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'll bet it looks nicer than these images. Natural toning.
  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Baked can still be pretty...

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  • mdwoodsmdwoods Posts: 5,557 ✭✭✭
    Thank you all for the comments. I know PCGS doesn't cross SEGS holders but if I tell them to remove it from the holder first will they grade it? I like the coin it is nicer in hand than the photos show but they are pretty close.
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  • ShamikaShamika Posts: 18,785 ✭✭✭✭
    Very similar toning.
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  • Wabbit2313Wabbit2313 Posts: 7,268 ✭✭✭✭✭

    PCGS does cross SEGS holders. It's up to you how much pain you are willing to take by choosing "cross at any grade".

    I had an MS65 DMPL cross at MS64 DMPL once.
  • ColonelJessupColonelJessup Posts: 6,442 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Kosher -Crack it out and send it in. You've no use for the SEGS holder. It offers no value to you. However, they are tougher to crack open than any other.

    PCGS only cracks coins out when they've already been approved for crossover.
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  • lostincoinslostincoins Posts: 4,278 ✭
    I have seen this look on coins that are thickly NT and given an acetone bath and handled poorly. The acetone will not remove NT but in many cases will soften it if left tool long in the soak and it gets sticky. I like this coin, nice pick up.
  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,518 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Im not completely jaded when I see jade.

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