QT according to PCGS, but I still like it!

ElmerFusterpuck · July 12, 2014 3:25AM

I imagine this will get responses all over the place, but I do like this coin! To each, his/her own.

braddick · July 12, 2014 3:28AM

I like it too.

NotSure · July 12, 2014 4:36AM

This is the second toned coin posted today that I really like. The blue/purple, I do love that toning on an ASE. That 'wispy clouds in the sky' look the obverse has is cool. Is member consensus going to be QT????.....or, is this a real borderline coin?

A matched set of ASE's that ALL look like that....yeah, I can dig that, man!

I like it, QT, NT, MT, OT, TT, IT, PT, whatever-T.....I like it!

Bochiman · July 12, 2014 4:38AM

I like the obverse.
I do agree with PCGS on the QT though.

kaz · July 12, 2014 4:44AM

Nice how the rays of color slope up from right to left. If AT, artistically done! pretty!

jcping · July 12, 2014 4:49AM

Un-nature ......

Boosibri · July 12, 2014 4:56AM

Have to agree with PCGS.

WingedLiberty1957 · July 12, 2014 4:59AM

After seeing this one ... I got thoroughly confused ...

coinsarefun · July 12, 2014 5:24AM

I was watching that one. It has all the right colors but the toning pattern is almost to perfect. But then again when
they tone in PCI slabs they tend to get a certain circular toning pattern that originally PCGS thought was AT.

I'm not saying this is natural as this might be the first time I am not sure. Maybe it was in an aftermarket holder and toned like that.

If it was mine I would be very tempted to crack and submit at a coin show that PCGS was at and go through show submission.

Congrat's either way....its a beauty!

ricko · July 12, 2014 5:26AM

I agree with QT....and yes, there are many artificially tarnished coins in slabs.....when done properly, it is difficult to impossible to detect. Cheers, RickO

GRANDAM · July 12, 2014 5:53AM

Heat + Silver = WILD COLORS

GrandAm

braddick · July 12, 2014 7:29AM

<< After seeing this one ... I got thoroughly confused ...

>>

That Silver Eagle now resides in a fresh slab:

WingedLiberty1957 · July 12, 2014 8:19AM

thanks for posting that

LindeDad · July 12, 2014 8:24AM

<< Heat + Silver = WILD COLORS

GrandAm

>>

Looks fried but have agree on liking the colors.

savoyspecial · July 12, 2014 8:40AM

the neatest thing about the trio of photos that braddick posted is that the coin turned into a proof in it's most recent plastic encasement

coindeuce · July 12, 2014 8:51AM

<< the neatest thing about the trio of photos that braddick posted is that the coin turned into a proof in it's most recent plastic encasement >>

mozin · July 12, 2014 10:42AM

Somebody sure painted this coin with pretty colors. PCGS got it right.

CoinJunkie · July 12, 2014 11:13AM

Definitely AT, but in a pleasing way.

DIMEMAN · July 12, 2014 12:44PM

I love natural toning, but don't like any of these.

What is it with painted Silver Eagles??

remumc · July 12, 2014 12:51PM

QT or not, I think it's beautiful, and would have no problem owning it, at the right price of course.

bolivarshagnasty · July 12, 2014 1:33PM

<< 

<< the neatest thing about the trio of photos that braddick posted is that the coin turned into a proof in it's most recent plastic encasement >>

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braddick, Can you share the story with us? I agree with others on the OP's eagle. Doesn't look like any typical toning pattern I've seen that's been straight graded. JMHO

braddick · July 12, 2014 2:38PM

LINK to thread.

machoponcho · July 13, 2014 2:14AM

The OP Silver Eagle is very pretty. The color progression on both sides is proper for natural toning. However, there are 2 problems as I see it with this coin:
1. The toning pattern of the obverse is very strange with the yellow "claw" marks.
2. On the reverse, under "STATES OF" is a line where the color does not flow evenly. It goes from a dark blue to a light blue in an irregular line that follows the flow pattern that some kind of liquid would settle in if poured on a coin.

The color progression can follow the natural protocol. But if the pattern of the colors is strange and/or the colors don't flow into each other smoothly, PCGS will usually 91 it.

As to the wild toned 1998 Silver Eagle posted later in the thread I am familiar with the coin from many past internet pictures, but the latest development as it being a proof has me scratching my head.

machoponcho · July 13, 2014 2:27AM

<< 

<< After seeing this one ... I got thoroughly confused ...

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That Silver Eagle now resides in a fresh slab:

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I have never seen a picture of the reverse of this coin. Braddick, pretty please with a textile toned Morgan on top, post it if you have it.

braddick · July 13, 2014 5:03AM

Quick shot. (The original insert is affixed to the back.)

coinguy1989 · July 13, 2014 8:34AM

<< That Silver Eagle now resides in a fresh slab:

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Who would break that out of its original slab? My understanding is that a previous owner was offered $5k for it in the old PCGS MS69 holder. Also, how did the coin go from MS to proof?

19Lyds · July 13, 2014 11:00PM

<< 

<< After seeing this one ... I got thoroughly confused ...

>>

That Silver Eagle now resides in a fresh slab:

>>

Interesting.

First it gets an MS Bump

Then its get Details Proof?

machoponcho · July 14, 2014 12:40AM

<< Quick shot. (The original insert is affixed to the back.)

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LOL, the plot thickens! Thanks for posting the reverse, braddick. I like the reverse more than the obverse! Problem is, I see no "P" mintmark where a proof would normally have one. Plus the reverse was slabbed forward at some point according to that newest reverse picture you posted. How many times has this Silver Eagle been slabbed and/or reslabbed, and PCGS has gotten it wrong? This is the most amazing toned Silver Eagle not only because of the toning (mostly AT), but because of the slabbing history. Sorry, OP, but this topic has sort of gotten stolen by this infamous/famous 1998 Silver Eagle.

AMRC · July 14, 2014 1:00AM

<< the neatest thing about the trio of photos that braddick posted is that the coin turned into a proof in it's most recent plastic encasement >>

Great observation, but what is also interesting is that the original grading company got it right the first time.

I do not like the coin and it should be in a details holder.

DrBuster · July 14, 2014 1:19AM

Shenanigans!

DIMEMAN · July 14, 2014 2:00AM

QT according to PCGS, but I still like it!

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