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She's A Bad Mama Jama... Largest Known SAC $1 Broadstruck Mint Error

BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
Never photographed this one with my DSLR before and figured I'd share image

There's only a few broadstrike, partial collar, and off center errors known for the SAC $1 series and this one well She's a Bad Mama Jama image

2000-P SAC $1 PCGS MS67 Large Uncentered Broadstrike Mint Error

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    DaveWcoinsDaveWcoins Posts: 1,185 ✭✭✭
    Wow -- that is so cool Broadstruck.

    Why do you think there are so few Sac errors of those types? They made a jillion of the things...

    What is your theory?
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    BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Wow -- that is so cool Broadstruck.

    Why do you think there are so few Sac errors of those types? They made a jillion of the things...

    What is your theory? >>



    Thanks the mints started experimenting with usage of the Schuler presses around 1999 and most major mechanical errors since this press was adopted have seized entering the marketplace. Some errors might occur during initial die set-up, but more then the newer vertical presses it's the screening process that has eliminated errors escaping the mint. Even smaller denominations such as Lincoln errors have dried up and are almost nonexistent.
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    brg5658brg5658 Posts: 2,408 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Wow -- that is so cool Broadstruck.

    Why do you think there are so few Sac errors of those types? They made a jillion of the things...

    What is your theory? >>



    Thanks the mints started experimenting with usage of the Schuler presses around 1999 and most major mechanical errors since this press was adopted have seized entering the marketplace. Some errors might occur during initial die set-up, but more then the newer vertical presses it's the screening process that has eliminated errors escaping the mint. Even smaller denominations such as Lincoln errors have dried up and are almost nonexistent. >>




    After 2009, the broadstrike errors would also just not exist on SACs as the struck oversized planchet would not make it through the 2nd edge lettering part of the process at that increased size.

    Cool error Broadstruck.
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    BaronVonBaughBaronVonBaugh Posts: 1,839 ✭✭✭✭
    Nice, but isn't this too new for you?
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    MedalCollectorMedalCollector Posts: 2,103 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>After 2009, the broadstrike errors would also just not exist on SACs as the struck oversized planchet would not make it through the 2nd edge lettering part of the process at that increased size. >>



    Actually there are quite a few broadstruck or multistruck pres and native dollars that are much larger in diameter than a normal coin and these pieces have simply been released without the edge lettering. I dont know if they missed the lettering step altogether or the machine somehow lets the coin pass without putting the edge lettering on. Then again, maybe they came through the back door as so many missing edge lettering dollars have.
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    brg5658brg5658 Posts: 2,408 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>After 2009, the broadstrike errors would also just not exist on SACs as the struck oversized planchet would not make it through the 2nd edge lettering part of the process at that increased size. >>



    Actually there are quite a few broadstruck or multistruck pres and native dollars that are much larger in diameter than a normal coin and these pieces have simply been released without the edge lettering. I dont know if they missed the lettering step altogether or the machine somehow lets the coin pass without putting the edge lettering on. Then again, maybe they came through the back door as so many missing edge lettering dollars have. >>



    I should have said, the broadstrike errors should not exist from 2009 or after for the Sacagawea's. I always assumed there was some sort of mechanism built into the edge lettering presses that would throw out coins of too large a diameter. As you mentioned though, I'm sure these make it out by less than legal means.
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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i> it's the screening process that has eliminated errors escaping the mint. Even smaller denominations such as Lincoln errors have dried up and are almost nonexistent. >>




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    BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Nice, but isn't this too new for you? >>



    I actually have always liked the SAC $1 design.
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    keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Frank, I was just thinking the same thing-----if you start collecting this "Modern Junk" it'll change my opinion of you, but in a good way!!image
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    PipestonePetePipestonePete Posts: 1,987 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I actually have always liked the SAC $1 design. >>



    It is a great design. The reverse is the most attractive design on a circulating coin since the early 20th Century classics.
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    BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>I actually have always liked the SAC $1 design. >>



    It is a great design. The reverse is the most attractive design on a circulating coin since the early 20th Century classics. >>



    I've always felt the same... As I think it's the best dollar design since 1935.
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    BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
    keets, I stated collecting SAC errors about a decade ago as I thought it would be nice to work on a dollar set that circulated when my Son was born. To make things more challenging I mostly aimed for proof errors thinking I could do a full date set... But as each is unique and none are known for some years it proved to be an impossible task.

    This is as far as I managed to get and I need to still photograph the group.

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    ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Wow, that 2000 is awesome, as is the 2009 S.



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    BaronVonBaughBaronVonBaugh Posts: 1,839 ✭✭✭✭
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    SeattleSlammerSeattleSlammer Posts: 10,126 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Bad girl.
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    goodmoney4badmoneygoodmoney4badmoney Posts: 1,328 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Very nice coins.image
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    lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 45,371 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That's a cool sack o' Sac, there.

    As to the musical selection, it made me want to listen to the Gap Band, for some reason.

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    TreashuntTreashunt Posts: 6,748 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>I actually have always liked the SAC $1 design. >>



    It is a great design. The reverse is the most attractive design on a circulating coin since the early 20th Century classics. >>



    I've always felt the same... As I think it's the best dollar design since 1935. >>




    But, considering the competition, that isn't saying a lot
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    astroratastrorat Posts: 9,221 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I've always felt the same... As I think it's the best dollar design since 1935. >>

    That's not a very high bar.
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    crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 14,253 ✭✭✭✭✭
    VERY cool!! image
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    ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,489 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Awesome coin Broadstruck. You have a few that are really out of this world and that is one of them image
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    WalkerfanWalkerfan Posts: 10,395 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Broadie, that is SUPER COOL!! Thanks for sharing!!!

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