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  • JamesMurrayJamesMurray Posts: 4,036


    << <i>Outside of this forum these items are very popular as most of his offerings sell out. If you do an ebay search you will also see many of his previous offerings being offered at more than original pricing, sometime many times the original asking price. As tp DC giving very specified customer sales datta as to how many customers are board members and how many are not may be a bit to ask. >>



    Being offered is the key term , and doubtless by board members. It was an interesting question as on no other forum are these as widely discussed or applauded. It's curious as without question it is not a US coin but that's not for me to decide , every time i see one of these threads i think ..PT Barnum would be proud. Have a good day peeps
  • lostincoinslostincoins Posts: 4,278
    When you use a sulphate it depends on how it is mixed. Mixed with water, acids, bases etc and the sulfur itself as pot ash or a stabilized gel. The temperature of the mixture plays a big part in the stability of the mix, the time it is usable and how it affects the metal surface. The rinse temperature can also have a substantial affect on the outcome of the coloration and whether or not a large amount of oxygen is introduced. I use it to antique some of the jewelry I make. Another concern is that it off gases and depending on how it is mixed can actually create a hazardous gas.
  • lostincoinslostincoins Posts: 4,278
    James you are funny. I see no problem with a commemorative medal which this is it is not a coin as many are stating lol. If you do a google search for "Dan Carr coins" many other links come up before this boards threads do link and one is advertising his gold bullion coins which are also very popular. Even when his designs are encapsulated they state medal on them such as this one.

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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    DCarr does really great work. I like most of his offerings and own several. I will likely buy more in the future. As to the AT question, I would deem this product IT....Intentional Tarnish. It is part of the design and intended to enhance the product. It would be to the U.S. Mint's advantage to commission one or more designs from him. We could truly use some real art in America's coins. Cheers, RickO
  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,768 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Customized patinas are a well-established tradition in the world of medallic art. Look at the finishes on some of these Society of Medallists issues:

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  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,401 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I like Dan's creativity in creating and providing different finishes.

    It would be cool if he made more hologram coins IMO.
  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,401 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>What beautiful coins, the design is simplistic and expertly executed. The toning is amazing and as part of the manufacturing process is 100% NT same as when the mint made satin finishes by blasting them. It is unfortunate that people have to bash every one of your designs even though many are one off production pieces created by you. For these to be fake someone else in china would have to copy them, that should be easy enough for even the most limited intellect to understand. I at age 18 owned a 1966 Chevy Chevelle SS 2 door coupe with a 396ci engine and a m44 rockcrusher tranny. The car was a creamed corn baby poop color so I repainted the car pearl white, I then ripped out the interior and bolted in some racing seats with 5pt harnesses just for a start. Makes me think that the same people that harass D.Carr would have to do the same to me and say my car was fake lol.... Dan keep it up as I too hope that some day the mint will at least use you as a consultant to improve our coinage as most current designs are lack luster. I also appreciate that when you are asked a question about your production process you answer that question and your customer service is tops compared to other dealers. Thank you for sharing your art with us and making it in such a way that even someone as limited as I am can acquire one of your pieces. >>



    Thanks,

    This is a medal that sort of happened by accident. I was commissioned to make a Panama Canal Centennial medal, based on the design of the so-called dollar HK-398 obverse. I misunderstood what the customer wanted and took some liberties with the design to suit my preferences. After I had done most of the sculpting, I found out that the customer wanted the design to be basically identical to the HK-398 obverse. So to salvage the situation, I decided to turn my design into my own product offering, and make a new sculpture for the customer. The basic design and sketching took about 8 hours. The 3-D sculpting took another 20 hours for the obverse and 6 hours for the reverse. The reverse was quicker than normal because I have a special process to sculpt Earth topography efficiently. Die engraving was about 20 hours per side, although a lot of the time the engraving machine ran unattended. Then the die heat-treating (hardening) was about 12 hours. Bead-blasting and polishing of the dies was another couple hours. After all that, the striking goes pretty fast - about 50 to 100 pieces per hour. Edge marking (for the silver content) is pretty quick. Post stike finishing is about 5 to 10 minutes per medal.

    My two favorites of this issue are the satin silver and the antiqued brass. >>



    Love the story behind this one Dan. I'm glad you were able to mint your own version image
  • edix2001edix2001 Posts: 3,388


    << <i>Love the story behind this one Dan. I'm glad you were able to mint your own version image >>



    Yah, cool story, brah! Just goes to show how Daniel is driven by his whimsy. Besides, the centennial of the opening of the Panama Canal is a worthy event to commemorate.
  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 35,943 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Arriving late to stir the pot!


    Remember the $1,000,000 gold coin? It was tooled and polished post-manufacture. Just sayin' >>


    Obviously you do not carry your personal agenda around with you
    which many appreciate! >>





    I don't know what's going on with that, but I can further stir the pot with:

    What about official world mint releases of colorized coins?



    I can also stir the pot in the other direction:

    If the AT people can use the same techniques with the same results, why is one from the maker more desirable or from the dr. less so?

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  • RayboRaybo Posts: 5,341 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Lots of critics in this thread. I could not do better -- and sometimes neither does our mint.

    Anyone ever notice the unrealistic amount of distance between the right shoulder and the neck on this classic U.S.Coin design.
    Also her left leg almost appears to protrude out of Miss Liberty's stomach.

    image >>



    In this case I think it had to do with the angle and the way the model was posed, looks fine to my eyes.
  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 35,943 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Lots of critics in this thread. I could not do better -- and sometimes neither does our mint.

    Anyone ever notice the unrealistic amount of distance between the right shoulder and the neck on this classic U.S.Coin design.
    Also her left leg almost appears to protrude out of Miss Liberty's stomach.

    image >>



    In this case I think it had to do with the angle and the way the model was posed, looks fine to my eyes. >>





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  • brokecollectorbrokecollector Posts: 75 ✭✭✭
    D Carr,

    I like a lot of your work and have a few of your creations in my collection.

    I am a great admirer of the HK 399-HK 401, Official Pan-Pac medals. I was wondering if you were trying to duplicate the various finishes of these medals.

    BTW, I do like your Panama Canal medal, especially the obverse.
  • dcarrdcarr Posts: 9,124 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>D Carr,

    I like a lot of your work and have a few of your creations in my collection.

    I am a great admirer of the HK 399-HK 401, Official Pan-Pac medals. I was wondering if you were trying to duplicate the various finishes of these medals.

    BTW, I do like your Panama Canal medal, especially the obverse. >>



    Thanks,

    I was not trying to duplicate any existing finish - I just wanted an attractive look.
    Many medals in the past have been finished by applying a dark patina and then
    buffing to lighten the high points. I generally don't like that technique because
    it often leaves behind massive quantities of uni-directional hairlines. Instead of
    using the buffing or wire-brushing method, I burnish the medals by hand rubbing
    gently in all directions using the same glass-bead media that was used to intially
    apply the matte finish.
  • CoinJunkieCoinJunkie Posts: 8,772 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I just received mine in silver, and could not be happier! Those who say the medal is "unartistic" [sic]
    are just clueless. Kudos to Mr. Carr.
  • lcoopielcoopie Posts: 8,873 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I just ordered the last toned copper Panama Canal
    LCoopie = Les

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