Superbird???

toyz4geo · May 4, 2014 1:53PM

I always check out 1952 proof quarters. Does this look like a "superbird" to anyone else? Definately a top pop if it is.

Superbird?

BigJohnD · May 4, 2014 2:00PM

No I could be wrong,,,

lkeigwin · May 4, 2014 2:01PM

I don't see it, no.
Lance.

LanceNewmanOCC · May 4, 2014 4:21PM

<< I don't see it, no.
Lance. >>

i concur.

either i've looked at this coin before or i've seen that anomaly on other 52/53 25c though.
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Treashunt · May 4, 2014 7:19PM

I don't see it

ricko · May 4, 2014 8:32PM

Not a superbird....Cheers RickO

1tommy · May 4, 2014 8:46PM

Yes It is

Here is the Deal, look at the price guide, a Regular 1952 Proof coin is WORTH MORE than a Superbird. WHY? I have been asking this question for years. It used to be a 67 cameo Superbird was worth 1500 than they dropped it to 800 while a Regular is worth 1000. Another member bought that coin thinking the same thing but returned it when he found out it was not worth More. Plus I do believe there are 2 or 3 DCAM's out there............Enjoy

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LanceNewmanOCC · May 4, 2014 9:31PM

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here are some other images that can be blown up and a closeup of a S.B.
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slipgate · May 4, 2014 10:01PM

keets · May 4, 2014 10:06PM

yes.

Casman · May 4, 2014 11:48PM

It is most definately a superbird. The S stands out clear as day and some here need glasses...lol...That coin was purchased by a forum member, then put up for sale on Ebay for awhile as an unattributed top pop superbird....then the listing was ended and the coin was returned to the seller for a refund.

19Lyds · May 5, 2014 3:18AM

<< Yes It is

Here is the Deal, look at the price guide, a Regular 1952 Proof coin is WORTH MORE than a Superbird. WHY? I have been asking this question for years. It used to be a 67 cameo Superbird was worth 1500 than they dropped it to 800 while a Regular is worth 1000. Another member bought that coin thinking the same thing but returned it when he found out it was not worth More. Plus I do believe there are 2 or 3 DCAM's out there............Enjoy

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Folks need to be careful about buying into Forum Hype regarding certain coins as I recall that there was a time when the "Superbird" proofs were quite popular. But mainly on coin forums.

I had one for awhile just to be able to see what all the hubbub was about and quite frankly, it just wasn't that interesting. Upon resale, I lost money and prices started to drop shortly there after.

Sure, the variety is in the CPG but the CPG is not the final authority on anything. The collectors are the final authority and collector interest in this particular variety has simply waned over the years. In short, the wave has left the beach and we can keep our sand.

Now here's the catch. Let's say, I paid a couple of grand for a PR67CAM back in the day and this PR68CAM would give me a nice registry boost.
I could buy the 68 and get the boost but I'd lose my butt on selling the 67.

I'd have to weigh the losses as to the importance of the coin since this one definitely falls into the, "Those that want them, already have them" category.

LindeDad · May 5, 2014 3:30AM

It might be but as Lee says who cares any more, and IF PCGS graders will agree?

Jcarney · May 5, 2014 4:26AM

<< It might be but as Lee says who cares any more, and IF PCGS graders will agree? >>

It's not a question of agree or disagree like grade or CAM designation. It either is or isn't.

lcoopie · May 5, 2014 4:33AM

the spotting is very unappealing to me

MsMorrisine · May 5, 2014 4:38AM

<< It is most definately a superbird. The S stands out clear as day and some here need glasses...lol...That coin was purchased by a forum member, then put up for sale on Ebay for awhile as an unattributed top pop superbird....then the listing was ended and the coin was returned to the seller for a refund. >>

I need glasses.... where is it?

lcoopie · May 5, 2014 4:39AM

under the eye in the middle of the chest

just above the A in america

SanctionII · May 5, 2014 4:40AM

The pictured 1952 PF68 CAM quarter may or may not be an unattributed superbird variety. Cannot tell definitively from the photos (but maybe that is because my eyesight is not as good as it once was).

However, another point to ponder has popped up in my head.

Does anyone really think that this coin warrants/deserves a CAM designation?

I sure do not (though to be honest, you need to see the coin in hand as photographs of proof coins are unreliable).

The fields on both sides of the coin do not look mirrored, watery, smooth, black and deep (which to my understanding is a major factor in a TPG bestowing a CAM designation). Further, the devices, while frosted, do not appear to have a strong enough level of frost to warrant a CAM designation.

Further, I do not know if the coin deserves a 68 grade since it appears that there are spots on the obverse of the coin (maybe they developed post encapsulation).

The pictured coin does not appeal to me and I would PASS (possible superbird, top pop and CAM designation notwithstanding), especially at the asking price. If someone does purchase the coin it would likely be for registry set points.

My 2 cents.

ModCrewman · May 5, 2014 4:44AM

I'd agree Kevin, I don't think coin currently warrants the 68 CAM grade from the photos. I believe there is a little bit of leeway for the early proofs (50-52) for the CAM designation; but I don't believe this one would receive the CAM designation today if resubmitted raw.

Although I'm pretty sure I can make out the "S" on the chest, I'm not 100% certain. It's surely not as easy to find as it is on many of them, from the photos alone.

19Lyds · May 5, 2014 5:28AM

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<< It is most definately a superbird. The S stands out clear as day and some here need glasses...lol...That coin was purchased by a forum member, then put up for sale on Ebay for awhile as an unattributed top pop superbird....then the listing was ended and the coin was returned to the seller for a refund. >>

I need glasses.... where is it? >>

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Casman · May 5, 2014 5:42AM

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<< It is most definately a superbird. The S stands out clear as day and some here need glasses...lol...That coin was purchased by a forum member, then put up for sale on Ebay for awhile as an unattributed top pop superbird....then the listing was ended and the coin was returned to the seller for a refund. >>

I need glasses.... where is it? >>

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Good grief Charlie Brown...

LanceNewmanOCC · May 5, 2014 9:00AM

<< Good grief Charlie Brown... >>

it does appear as if that image is the best to see it or not. i looked at 3 reverse images and that one wasn't one of them. ><

for my part, it looks like it is from that image when i compare it next to the coinfacts image i linked in this thread. it sure looks like the outline.
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Superbird???

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