Silver bullets, REALLY????

tcmitssr · March 28, 2014 2:34PM

I am as much of a conservative Republican and supporter of the Second Amendment as there is.

OTOH, I saw more silver bullets, short arm silver casings, etc. being offered today at the Baltimore show, by certain dealers, almost as much as the actual silver coinage they were selling.

It's out of place.

I went to Laura and explained my concerns. She assured me this was not permitted at an ANA show but this was not an ANA managed show.

It's bad enough that clown dealers sell watches, rocks, etc. now at major coin shows.

What a way to impress and bring in the young numismatists....have them see 8-12 "coin dealers" selling schlock silver with silver bullets and small armor silver shells mixed right in along with Morgans, Peace dollars and silver rounds.

Come on folks....enough already. Coin shows are for coins and not the rest of the crap like watches, much less silver bullets and worse.

Kove · March 28, 2014 2:49PM

It's called the Whitman Coin AND COLLECTIBLE Expo.

Dealers are allowed to sell items other than coins.

CoinZealot · March 28, 2014 3:17PM

<< It's called the Whitman Coin AND COLLECTIBLE Expo.

Dealers are allowed to sell items other than coins. >>

Why such a grudge against these silver bullets? I think they are unique and

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MGLICKER · March 28, 2014 3:21PM

<< I am as much of a conservative Republican and supporter of the Second Amendment as there is. >>

So why put restrictions on a dealers desire to earn a living by selling a hot item?

nwcoast · March 28, 2014 3:26PM

I guess people want their weapons to be effective against Werewolfs...
Why would YOU, as an American, want to deny them of their rights to bear arms in the manner they deem most effective against their perceived threats?

Edited to add....
Only need to worry on the full moon of course.....

"The way you walked was thorny, through no fault of your own, but as the rain enters the soil, the river enters the sea, so tears run to a predestined end. Your suffering is over, Bela my son. Now you will find peace."
The old Gypsy woman speaking to the Wolf man in his last moments before passing.....

magikbilly · March 28, 2014 3:26PM

Perhaps that book, Werewolves of Baltimore, and its sequel?

Eric

michiganboy · March 28, 2014 3:30PM

These are actually some very cool bullion items, whats the deal again?

WTCG · March 28, 2014 3:32PM

Personally I have no issue with those silver and copper ingots shaped like bullets. Those are not exactly live rounds. One problem with those is because they resemble ammunition they cannot be brought through airport security nor placed in checked baggage.

19Lyds · March 28, 2014 3:48PM

<< 

<< It's called the Whitman Coin AND COLLECTIBLE Expo.

Dealers are allowed to sell items other than coins. >>

Why such a grudge against these silver bullets? I think they are unique and

.

>>

And..........you never really know if these used to belong to the Lone Ranger!

FullCameo · March 28, 2014 3:55PM

<< 

I went to Laura and explained my concerns. She assured me this was not permitted at an ANA show but this was not an ANA managed show >>

Case solved. Not out of place.

Yorkshireman · March 28, 2014 5:05PM

While I have not interest in owning a silver bullet, it does not bother me.
Real silver or gold jewelry and maps are even OK. Junk costume jewelry and rocks I have a problem with. This is not a flea market.

PerryHall · March 28, 2014 8:32PM

Some of the non-coin items (especially ancient antiquities) are neat and far more interesting to look at than looking at case after case filled with nothing but Morgan dollars. For what the tables cost none of this stuff is junk or flea market material. As far as the silver bullets go, it's just bullion in a form that will appeal to gun owners. If you don't like them then don't buy them.

FullStrike · March 28, 2014 9:24PM

Keep it down. We dont want the Mint getting any new product ideas here do we?

rkfish · March 28, 2014 9:30PM

TextI went to Laura and explained my concerns. She assured me this was not permitted at an ANA show but this was not an ANA managed show.

I purchased a group at the Atlanta ANA last month....

These are novelty items......nothing more. They make silver rounds in many shapes and forms.

SaorAlba · March 28, 2014 11:49PM

Frankly I have seen things for sale at shows that are a lot more alarming and illegal that silver bullets.

But one time at a show about 5 years ago I found one of the most fascinating and cool factor non-numismatic things I have bought at a show - a 22lb unexploded and now deactivated Parrott shell that was dug up in Port Hudson Louisiana from a battle in the Vicksburg campaign.

lcoopie · March 28, 2014 11:59PM

I like them

They are really just bullion, like any other bullion, just shaped differently.

There is no way to shoot these, LOL.

agentjim007 · March 29, 2014 12:17AM

They were selling these?

WillieBoyd2 · March 29, 2014 12:27AM

Was one of the customers wearing a mask and had an Indian with him?

ricko · March 29, 2014 12:57AM

I like silver bullets.... even the non-firing kind. I have never been to a coin show that did not have some small degree of esoterica displayed. Cheers, RickO

ProofArtworkonCircs · March 29, 2014 1:43AM

Never mind wolfmen. My father was much more concerned about witches. Same cure.

GeorgeKellogg · March 29, 2014 1:47AM

The availability of silver and gold bullion is normally part of an active bourse...

Weiss · March 29, 2014 2:16AM

For those who are scratching their heads about this thread:
These are legit bullion products made by a legit and recognized bullion company.

Silver Bullets from Northwest Territorial Mint

Not how I would want the majority of my bullion, but I personally see nothing wrong with these items being sold anywhere coins and other bullion items are sold. I had one of the 2-ounce rounds and thought it was very well done and a great conversation piece.

piecesofme · March 29, 2014 2:54AM

What a way to impress and bring in the young numismatists....have them see 8-12 "coin dealers" selling schlock silver with silver bullets and small armor silver shells mixed right in along with Morgans, Peace dollars and silver rounds
I guess I'm in the minority on this and agree with the OP, looking at it from this point of view regarding trying to bring young numismatists along the way.

But on the other hand, todays coin shows are nothing like the ones I was taken to as a kid, so I shouldn't expect them to be the same as they were back then, except for the old crusty men eating a sandwich and knocking over a Pepsi as they try to take something out of the case to show me. Really? Eating with mustard on your face at your coin show table? Now that's actually more of a turn off than having a silver bullet in the showcase. Go eat at a lunch/picnic table, which most coin shows have, not at YOUR table where all your merchandise is at.

This concludes this personal pet peev rant

derryb · March 29, 2014 3:37AM

unless they were actual ammo (unlikely) they were bullion. You wanna outlaw selling bullion at a coin show, or just bullion that offends you? And about the kids, hopefully they weren't seen making a gun imitation with their hands when they saw the bullion bullets. You never know when a liberal educator is around.

MICHAELDIXON · March 29, 2014 3:44AM

I am surprised that nobody who attended the show mentioned CEO Coins selling several old dueling pistols and a rifle. That would seem more offensive than bullion silver bullets. But...neither offend me.

Staircoins · March 29, 2014 4:05AM

So, you aren't a fan of bullet-shaped bullion.

Guess what, I'm not a fan of coins shaped like guitars (Somalia, 2004) or made entirely from acrylic (10 Francs, 2005, Congo Democratic Republic), or German Porcelain Notgeld, or even many of our own mint issues for that matter (1989 Congressional Commens, Boy Scout Commems, Shield Nickels, etc.).

Doesn't stop me from enjoying a coin show, though. And doesn't stop me from respecting the rights of others to collect what they like.

Live and let live. It's all good.

Have fun with your coins (or bullion)!

steveben · March 29, 2014 4:58AM

i don't see a problem with it, unless there is actual powder in the bullets. i assume they are just the tips or ornamental. i think it fits with silver dollars nicely.

Nic · March 29, 2014 5:04AM

<< I am as much of a conservative Republican and supporter of the Second Amendment as there is.

OTOH, I saw more silver bullets, short arm silver casings, etc. being offered today at the Baltimore show, by certain dealers, almost as much as the actual silver coinage they were selling.

It's out of place.

I went to Laura and explained my concerns. She assured me this was not permitted at an ANA show but this was not an ANA managed show.

It's bad enough that clown dealers sell watches, rocks, etc. now at major coin shows.

What a way to impress and bring in the young numismatists....have them see 8-12 "coin dealers" selling schlock silver with silver bullets and small armor silver shells mixed right in along with Morgans, Peace dollars and silver rounds.

Come on folks....enough already. Coin shows are for coins and not the rest of the crap like watches, much less silver bullets and worse. >>

Thanks for your post. I just ordered several.

K

coinsarefun · March 29, 2014 5:14AM

Yes, but the real question still remains........were they selling wooden crosses with the silver bullets?

Lakesammman · March 29, 2014 5:22AM

I think they are cool - just bullion.

I'd by some but the premium is too great.

GoldenEyeNumismatics · March 29, 2014 6:53AM

I buy some of the rocks that those dealers have for sale!

coindeuce · March 29, 2014 7:24AM

Where are the posts decrying the sale of those rounds and rectangles depicting nude female figures in all form of repose ? Now those keeds minds are going to be preverted forever ! The Horror.

VamCollector · March 29, 2014 9:57AM

Its just another form of bullion created to appeal to people who would find it interesting. Wouldn't bother me unless that's all the dealer was selling and then he should be on the aisle for other collectibles. I go to the Long Beach Show and its like that. I understand the point on not wanting a show cluttered up with too much non-coin related material but interesting non-coin related items here and there breaks up the monotony for me (but that's me). I have seen silver rounds with topics I find tacky to market to people...like the 9/11 attacks, etc. but someone else may find it appealing so I just roll my eyes and move on.

magikbilly · March 29, 2014 10:04AM

<< "The way you walked was thorny, through no fault of your own, but as the rain enters the soil, the river enters the sea, so tears run to a predestined end. Your suffering is over, Bela my son. Now you will find peace."
The old Gypsy woman speaking to the Wolf man in his last moments before passing..... >>

I never ever thought I would see Maria Ouspenskya quoted at PCGS!

Eric

How is this different than not liking...anything else? Having a problem with the shape of bullion?

ScarsdaleCoin · March 29, 2014 10:20AM

I was at a gun show and was upset to see these round objects in the dealers case called Peace dollars. Whoops wrong forum

MGLICKER · March 29, 2014 10:23AM

At the local coin show, a few dealers offer inexpensive rings. My girlfriend loves to try them on and buy a few while I cruise the coin cases.

Works out well.

Crackout · March 29, 2014 11:08AM

Oh, never mind.

I thought this thread was about Coors Silver Bullets!

I was going to get myself another 12 ounces.

BryceM · March 29, 2014 11:28AM

I guess when the OP runs his own coin show he can set the rules. Until then, if it isn't illegal and isn't prohibited by the show organizers, what's the issue?

As I said in another thread recently, Liberty means you're free to do anything you want, except those things expressly prohibited. For this concept to have any usefulness, a little tolerance to the viewpoints of others is necessary. I didn't understand the point of having a jam & jelly booth at a gun show I recently attended, and I didn't particularly care for the body parts made of chocolate on display at a shop we visited in Brussels, but I figured their presence wasn't hurting me much. To each his own.

... and as for the YNs, I happen to know a few who would think silver bullets were pretty darn awesome.

Tookybandit · March 29, 2014 11:45AM

I saw these at the Atlanta ANA show. Not my cup of tea, but they were definitely interesting and seemed to be very popular!

BLUEJAYWAY · March 29, 2014 1:30PM

<< What a way to impress and bring in the young numismatists....have them see 8-12 "coin dealers" selling schlock silver with silver bullets and small armor silver shells mixed right in along with Morgans, Peace dollars and silver rounds
I guess I'm in the minority on this and agree with the OP, looking at it from this point of view regarding trying to bring young numismatists along the way.

But on the other hand, todays coin shows are nothing like the ones I was taken to as a kid, so I shouldn't expect them to be the same as they were back then, except for the old crusty men eating a sandwich and knocking over a Pepsi as they try to take something out of the case to show me. Really? Eating with mustard on your face at your coin show table? Now that's actually more of a turn off than having a silver bullet in the showcase. Go eat at a lunch/picnic table, which most coin shows have, not at YOUR table where all your merchandise is at.

This concludes this personal pet peev rant

>>

Pardon me if I refer to your comment about dealers lacking in the etiquette of proper eating, but it reminded me of a long ago sports card dealer(sold a few coins as well) who appeared at the local shows. He had a habit of eating pizza at his table. Not just 1 piece, but a small complete one. To this day, and right now, that image still brings a hearty chuckle. Can still see the sauce festooned about his face/fingers. But somehow he still had a steady stream of customers. No extra charge for the sauce. R.I.P. Frank.

GRANDAM · March 29, 2014 1:43PM

I wish I had a buddy who was both a reloader and a CNC Mill operator.

I would have him take the silver bullet bullion and cut the ends off,,,,, mill the cut end to the proper diameter to fit in a brass casing and then have it reloaded with powder. Then I would have real live round silver bullets,,,,,,, just in case,,,,,,,

GrandAm

callawayc7 · March 29, 2014 4:16PM

I don't understand what you have against them. They're just another form of bullion (not a live round) and I think they're pretty cool. Much more interesting than a silver round or bar. You say you don't have anything against the 2nd amendment but it seems the ONLY reason why you don't like them is because it's shape like a bullet. Otherwise, in your rant you should have include ALL bullion and not just the bullet shaped bullion.

PerryHall · March 29, 2014 8:32PM

<< I wish I had a buddy who was both a reloader and a CNC Mill operator.

I would have him take the silver bullet bullion and cut the ends off,,,,, mill the cut end to the proper diameter to fit in a brass casing and then have it reloaded with powder. Then I would have real live round silver bullets,,,,,,, just in case,,,,,,,

GrandAm

>>

Most shooters are reloaders who make their own bullets using scrap lead and bullet molds which come in numerous calibers and configurations. You could probably just cast your own bullets using a mold. I would never shoot such a bullet since silver is a lot harder than lead and the pressure generated in the gun may be unacceptably high.

Cameonut · March 29, 2014 10:00PM

I like silver bullets. Don't own any yet - but will.

I also like non-silver bullets. Do you think there is any coin show in the US that doesn't have plenty of ammo protecting the show and the participants?

BigA · March 29, 2014 10:58PM

I bought some one and two ouncers as a gift for my son who is a police officer and he loved them. Solid .999 bullion that are available in various calibers from 1/4 to 25 ounces

I'm not a gun person but I do think they are cool

TF · March 29, 2014 11:00PM

Oh my, lighten up man, it's a novelty.....you went & told the principal too ? Wow

BAJJERFAN · March 30, 2014 12:07AM

<< 

<< I wish I had a buddy who was both a reloader and a CNC Mill operator.

I would have him take the silver bullet bullion and cut the ends off,,,,, mill the cut end to the proper diameter to fit in a brass casing and then have it reloaded with powder. Then I would have real live round silver bullets,,,,,,, just in case,,,,,,,

GrandAm

>>

Most shooters are reloaders who make their own bullets using scrap lead and bullet molds which come in numerous calibers and configurations. You could probably just cast your own bullets using a mold. I would never shoot such a bullet since silver is a lot harder than lead and the pressure generated in the gun may be unacceptably high. >>

Parker Ackley experimented with oversized jacketed rifle bullets and they basically swaged down within the first few inches of bore travel. If these can be milled to an acceptable weight, I'd start by turning them to bore diameter and see what happens. You'd probably also want to slug the bore to see if there are any tight spots.

RYK · March 30, 2014 1:17AM

If you don't care for them, like me, do what I do and don't buy them.

Pretty simple.

jmski52 · March 30, 2014 2:01AM

I've seen silver dollars at a gun show, but I still haven't seen any of these at one.

TF · March 30, 2014 10:42AM

<< If you don't care for them, like me, do what I do and don't buy them.

Pretty simple. >>

Silver bullets, REALLY????

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