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tcmitssrtcmitssr Posts: 1,570 ✭✭✭
I am as much of a conservative Republican and supporter of the Second Amendment as there is.

OTOH, I saw more silver bullets, short arm silver casings, etc. being offered today at the Baltimore show, by certain dealers, almost as much as the actual silver coinage they were selling.

It's out of place.

I went to Laura and explained my concerns. She assured me this was not permitted at an ANA show but this was not an ANA managed show.

It's bad enough that clown dealers sell watches, rocks, etc. now at major coin shows.

What a way to impress and bring in the young numismatists....have them see 8-12 "coin dealers" selling schlock silver with silver bullets and small armor silver shells mixed right in along with Morgans, Peace dollars and silver rounds.

Come on folks....enough already. Coin shows are for coins and not the rest of the crap like watches, much less silver bullets and worse.

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  • KoveKove Posts: 2,038 ✭✭✭✭
    It's called the Whitman Coin AND COLLECTIBLE Expo.

    Dealers are allowed to sell items other than coins.


  • << <i>It's called the Whitman Coin AND COLLECTIBLE Expo.

    Dealers are allowed to sell items other than coins. >>



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    Why such a grudge against these silver bullets? I think they are unique and image.

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  • MGLICKERMGLICKER Posts: 7,995 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I am as much of a conservative Republican and supporter of the Second Amendment as there is. >>



    So why put restrictions on a dealers desire to earn a living by selling a hot item?
  • nwcoastnwcoast Posts: 2,884 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I guess people want their weapons to be effective against Werewolfs...
    Why would YOU, as an American, want to deny them of their rights to bear arms in the manner they deem most effective against their perceived threats? image




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  • michiganboymichiganboy Posts: 1,247 ✭✭✭
    These are actually some very cool bullion items, whats the deal again?
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  • WTCGWTCG Posts: 8,940 ✭✭✭
    Personally I have no issue with those silver and copper ingots shaped like bullets. Those are not exactly live rounds. One problem with those is because they resemble ammunition they cannot be brought through airport security nor placed in checked baggage.
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  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,492 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>It's called the Whitman Coin AND COLLECTIBLE Expo.

    Dealers are allowed to sell items other than coins. >>



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    Why such a grudge against these silver bullets? I think they are unique and image.

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  • << <i>

    I went to Laura and explained my concerns. She assured me this was not permitted at an ANA show but this was not an ANA managed show >>



    Case solved. Not out of place.
  • YorkshiremanYorkshireman Posts: 4,583 ✭✭✭✭✭
    While I have not interest in owning a silver bullet, it does not bother me.
    Real silver or gold jewelry and maps are even OK. Junk costume jewelry and rocks I have a problem with. This is not a flea market.
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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,797 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Some of the non-coin items (especially ancient antiquities) are neat and far more interesting to look at than looking at case after case filled with nothing but Morgan dollars. For what the tables cost none of this stuff is junk or flea market material. As far as the silver bullets go, it's just bullion in a form that will appeal to gun owners. If you don't like them then don't buy them.

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  • FullStrikeFullStrike Posts: 4,353 ✭✭✭
    Keep it down. We dont want the Mint getting any new product ideas here do we?

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  • rkfishrkfish Posts: 2,617 ✭✭✭
    TextI went to Laura and explained my concerns. She assured me this was not permitted at an ANA show but this was not an ANA managed show.

    I purchased a group at the Atlanta ANA last month....

    These are novelty items......nothing more. They make silver rounds in many shapes and forms.
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  • SaorAlbaSaorAlba Posts: 7,593 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Frankly I have seen things for sale at shows that are a lot more alarming and illegal that silver bullets.

    But one time at a show about 5 years ago I found one of the most fascinating and cool factor non-numismatic things I have bought at a show - a 22lb unexploded and now deactivated Parrott shell that was dug up in Port Hudson Louisiana from a battle in the Vicksburg campaign.
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  • lcoopielcoopie Posts: 8,873 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I like them

    They are really just bullion, like any other bullion, just shaped differently.

    There is no way to shoot these, LOL.
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  • WillieBoyd2WillieBoyd2 Posts: 5,266 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Was one of the customers wearing a mask and had an Indian with him?

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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I like silver bullets.... even the non-firing kind. I have never been to a coin show that did not have some small degree of esoterica displayed. Cheers, RickO
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  • GeorgeKelloggGeorgeKellogg Posts: 1,251 ✭✭
    The availability of silver and gold bullion is normally part of an active bourse...
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  • WeissWeiss Posts: 9,942 ✭✭✭✭✭
    For those who are scratching their heads about this thread:
    These are legit bullion products made by a legit and recognized bullion company.

    Silver Bullets from Northwest Territorial Mint

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    Not how I would want the majority of my bullion, but I personally see nothing wrong with these items being sold anywhere coins and other bullion items are sold. I had one of the 2-ounce rounds and thought it was very well done and a great conversation piece.

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  • piecesofmepiecesofme Posts: 6,669 ✭✭✭
    What a way to impress and bring in the young numismatists....have them see 8-12 "coin dealers" selling schlock silver with silver bullets and small armor silver shells mixed right in along with Morgans, Peace dollars and silver rounds
    I guess I'm in the minority on this and agree with the OP, looking at it from this point of view regarding trying to bring young numismatists along the way.

    But on the other hand, todays coin shows are nothing like the ones I was taken to as a kid, so I shouldn't expect them to be the same as they were back then, except for the old crusty men eating a sandwich and knocking over a Pepsi as they try to take something out of the case to show me. Really? Eating with mustard on your face at your coin show table? Now that's actually more of a turn off than having a silver bullet in the showcase. Go eat at a lunch/picnic table, which most coin shows have, not at YOUR table where all your merchandise is at.

    This concludes this personal pet peev rant image
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  • derrybderryb Posts: 37,610 ✭✭✭✭✭
    unless they were actual ammo (unlikely) they were bullion. You wanna outlaw selling bullion at a coin show, or just bullion that offends you? And about the kids, hopefully they weren't seen making a gun imitation with their hands when they saw the bullion bullets. You never know when a liberal educator is around. image

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  • MICHAELDIXONMICHAELDIXON Posts: 6,571 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I am surprised that nobody who attended the show mentioned CEO Coins selling several old dueling pistols and a rifle. That would seem more offensive than bullion silver bullets. But...neither offend me.
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  • StaircoinsStaircoins Posts: 2,577 ✭✭✭

    So, you aren't a fan of bullet-shaped bullion.

    Guess what, I'm not a fan of coins shaped like guitars (Somalia, 2004) or made entirely from acrylic (10 Francs, 2005, Congo Democratic Republic), or German Porcelain Notgeld, or even many of our own mint issues for that matter (1989 Congressional Commens, Boy Scout Commems, Shield Nickels, etc.).

    Doesn't stop me from enjoying a coin show, though. And doesn't stop me from respecting the rights of others to collect what they like.

    Live and let live. It's all good.

    Have fun with your coins (or bullion)! image
  • stevebensteveben Posts: 4,634 ✭✭✭✭✭
    i don't see a problem with it, unless there is actual powder in the bullets. i assume they are just the tips or ornamental. i think it fits with silver dollars nicely.
  • NicNic Posts: 3,405 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I am as much of a conservative Republican and supporter of the Second Amendment as there is.

    OTOH, I saw more silver bullets, short arm silver casings, etc. being offered today at the Baltimore show, by certain dealers, almost as much as the actual silver coinage they were selling.

    It's out of place.

    I went to Laura and explained my concerns. She assured me this was not permitted at an ANA show but this was not an ANA managed show.

    It's bad enough that clown dealers sell watches, rocks, etc. now at major coin shows.

    What a way to impress and bring in the young numismatists....have them see 8-12 "coin dealers" selling schlock silver with silver bullets and small armor silver shells mixed right in along with Morgans, Peace dollars and silver rounds.

    Come on folks....enough already. Coin shows are for coins and not the rest of the crap like watches, much less silver bullets and worse. >>





    Thanks for your post. I just ordered several.

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  • LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,449 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think they are cool - just bullion.

    I'd by some but the premium is too great.
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  • coindeucecoindeuce Posts: 13,496 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Where are the posts decrying the sale of those rounds and rectangles depicting nude female figures in all form of repose ? Now those keeds minds are going to be preverted forever ! The Horror. image

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  • Its just another form of bullion created to appeal to people who would find it interesting. Wouldn't bother me unless that's all the dealer was selling and then he should be on the aisle for other collectibles. I go to the Long Beach Show and its like that. I understand the point on not wanting a show cluttered up with too much non-coin related material but interesting non-coin related items here and there breaks up the monotony for me (but that's me). I have seen silver rounds with topics I find tacky to market to people...like the 9/11 attacks, etc. but someone else may find it appealing so I just roll my eyes and move on.


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    How is this different than not liking...anything else? Having a problem with the shape of bullion?
  • ScarsdaleCoinScarsdaleCoin Posts: 5,324 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I was at a gun show and was upset to see these round objects in the dealers case called Peace dollars. Whoops wrong forum
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  • MGLICKERMGLICKER Posts: 7,995 ✭✭✭
    At the local coin show, a few dealers offer inexpensive rings. My girlfriend loves to try them on and buy a few while I cruise the coin cases.

    Works out well.
  • CrackoutCrackout Posts: 1,375 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Oh, never mind.

    I thought this thread was about Coors Silver Bullets!

    I was going to get myself another 12 ounces. image
  • BryceMBryceM Posts: 11,851 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I guess when the OP runs his own coin show he can set the rules. Until then, if it isn't illegal and isn't prohibited by the show organizers, what's the issue?

    As I said in another thread recently, Liberty means you're free to do anything you want, except those things expressly prohibited. For this concept to have any usefulness, a little tolerance to the viewpoints of others is necessary. I didn't understand the point of having a jam & jelly booth at a gun show I recently attended, and I didn't particularly care for the body parts made of chocolate on display at a shop we visited in Brussels, but I figured their presence wasn't hurting me much. To each his own.

    ... and as for the YNs, I happen to know a few who would think silver bullets were pretty darn awesome.
  • TookybanditTookybandit Posts: 3,414 ✭✭✭✭
    I saw these at the Atlanta ANA show. Not my cup of tea, but they were definitely interesting and seemed to be very popular!
  • BLUEJAYWAYBLUEJAYWAY Posts: 10,016 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>What a way to impress and bring in the young numismatists....have them see 8-12 "coin dealers" selling schlock silver with silver bullets and small armor silver shells mixed right in along with Morgans, Peace dollars and silver rounds
    I guess I'm in the minority on this and agree with the OP, looking at it from this point of view regarding trying to bring young numismatists along the way.

    But on the other hand, todays coin shows are nothing like the ones I was taken to as a kid, so I shouldn't expect them to be the same as they were back then, except for the old crusty men eating a sandwich and knocking over a Pepsi as they try to take something out of the case to show me. Really? Eating with mustard on your face at your coin show table? Now that's actually more of a turn off than having a silver bullet in the showcase. Go eat at a lunch/picnic table, which most coin shows have, not at YOUR table where all your merchandise is at.

    This concludes this personal pet peev rant image >>

    Pardon me if I refer to your comment about dealers lacking in the etiquette of proper eating, but it reminded me of a long ago sports card dealer(sold a few coins as well) who appeared at the local shows. He had a habit of eating pizza at his table. Not just 1 piece, but a small complete one. To this day, and right now, that image still brings a hearty chuckle. Can still see the sauce festooned about his face/fingers. But somehow he still had a steady stream of customers. No extra charge for the sauce. R.I.P. Frank.
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  • GRANDAMGRANDAM Posts: 8,740 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I wish I had a buddy who was both a reloader and a CNC Mill operator.

    I would have him take the silver bullet bullion and cut the ends off,,,,, mill the cut end to the proper diameter to fit in a brass casing and then have it reloaded with powder. Then I would have real live round silver bullets,,,,,,, just in case,,,,,,, image

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  • callawayc7callawayc7 Posts: 303 ✭✭✭
    I don't understand what you have against them. They're just another form of bullion (not a live round) and I think they're pretty cool. Much more interesting than a silver round or bar. You say you don't have anything against the 2nd amendment but it seems the ONLY reason why you don't like them is because it's shape like a bullet. Otherwise, in your rant you should have include ALL bullion and not just the bullet shaped bullion.
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,797 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I wish I had a buddy who was both a reloader and a CNC Mill operator.

    I would have him take the silver bullet bullion and cut the ends off,,,,, mill the cut end to the proper diameter to fit in a brass casing and then have it reloaded with powder. Then I would have real live round silver bullets,,,,,,, just in case,,,,,,, image

    GrandAm image >>



    Most shooters are reloaders who make their own bullets using scrap lead and bullet molds which come in numerous calibers and configurations. You could probably just cast your own bullets using a mold. I would never shoot such a bullet since silver is a lot harder than lead and the pressure generated in the gun may be unacceptably high.

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  • CameonutCameonut Posts: 7,361 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I like silver bullets. Don't own any yet - but will.

    I also like non-silver bullets. Do you think there is any coin show in the US that doesn't have plenty of ammo protecting the show and the participants?

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  • BigABigA Posts: 2,715 ✭✭✭✭
    I bought some one and two ouncers as a gift for my son who is a police officer and he loved them. Solid .999 bullion that are available in various calibers from 1/4 to 25 ounces

    I'm not a gun person but I do think they are cool
  • TFTF Posts: 86
    Oh my, lighten up man, it's a novelty.....you went & told the principal too ? Wow image
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  • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,255 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>I wish I had a buddy who was both a reloader and a CNC Mill operator.

    I would have him take the silver bullet bullion and cut the ends off,,,,, mill the cut end to the proper diameter to fit in a brass casing and then have it reloaded with powder. Then I would have real live round silver bullets,,,,,,, just in case,,,,,,, image

    GrandAm image >>



    Most shooters are reloaders who make their own bullets using scrap lead and bullet molds which come in numerous calibers and configurations. You could probably just cast your own bullets using a mold. I would never shoot such a bullet since silver is a lot harder than lead and the pressure generated in the gun may be unacceptably high. >>



    Parker Ackley experimented with oversized jacketed rifle bullets and they basically swaged down within the first few inches of bore travel. If these can be milled to an acceptable weight, I'd start by turning them to bore diameter and see what happens. You'd probably also want to slug the bore to see if there are any tight spots.
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  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,799 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If you don't care for them, like me, do what I do and don't buy them.

    Pretty simple.
  • jmski52jmski52 Posts: 23,223 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I've seen silver dollars at a gun show, but I still haven't seen any of these at one.
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  • TFTF Posts: 86


    << <i>If you don't care for them, like me, do what I do and don't buy them.

    Pretty simple. >>



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