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mrpaseo
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When you can't find what you are looking for at your local B&M, here is a list to help you find what you are looking for. Additions/comments are welcomed. These are not in any particular order.
PCGS Precious Metals Forum
Precious Metals / Bullion Dealers
APMEX
Bullion Direct
DBS Coins
Gainesville Coins
Gaithersburg Coin
Golden Eagle Coin
Goldmart
Gold Dealer
JM Bullion
Liberty Coin
Liberty CPM
MCM or moderncoinmart
Monarch Precious Metals
Northwest Territorial Mint
Only Gold
Panda America
Provident Metals
Quality Silver Bullion
Scottsdale Precious Metals
SilverTowne L.P.
The Royal Mint
agoracommodities
Westminister Mint
Scotsman Auction Co.
Amagi Metals
BGASC
Mint's
Central Mint of China
Perth Mint
Pobjoy Mint
Royal Canadian Mint
Untied States Mint
Lists / Misc
Coinflation (90% coin values)
List of World Mints (Information and Links)
Mints of the world (Information and Links)
Gold Shark (Price Comparison)
Gold Bullion Coins Specifications
How much is a gram of gold worth (All gram sizes)
Gold Bars Worldwide
Gold Calculator (Scrap gold by weight)
US Mint American Arts Gold commemoratives info & minatages
US Gold American Eagles info & mintages
US Gold buffalos info & mintages
US gold commemoratives info & mintages
US gold First Spouses info & mintages
US Mint sales report (refresh page, updated Tuesdays)
When it's time to sell, these could be helpful
IRS Publication 17 (2013), Sale of Property (Be sure to confer with your tax adviser)
IRS Publication 544 (2012), Ordinary or Capital Gain or Loss (Be sure to confer with your tax adviser)
***NOTE: Certain locations are omitted from this list due to the feedback of poor customer service, not delivering and overall poor transactions. If it's not on this list, feel free to ask the forum for opinions.***
PCGS Precious Metals Forum
Precious Metals / Bullion Dealers
APMEX
Bullion Direct
DBS Coins
Gainesville Coins
Gaithersburg Coin
Golden Eagle Coin
Goldmart
Gold Dealer
JM Bullion
Liberty Coin
Liberty CPM
MCM or moderncoinmart
Monarch Precious Metals
Northwest Territorial Mint
Only Gold
Panda America
Provident Metals
Quality Silver Bullion
Scottsdale Precious Metals
SilverTowne L.P.
The Royal Mint
agoracommodities
Westminister Mint
Scotsman Auction Co.
Amagi Metals
BGASC
Mint's
Central Mint of China
Perth Mint
Pobjoy Mint
Royal Canadian Mint
Untied States Mint
Lists / Misc
Coinflation (90% coin values)
List of World Mints (Information and Links)
Mints of the world (Information and Links)
Gold Shark (Price Comparison)
Gold Bullion Coins Specifications
How much is a gram of gold worth (All gram sizes)
Gold Bars Worldwide
Gold Calculator (Scrap gold by weight)
US Mint American Arts Gold commemoratives info & minatages
US Gold American Eagles info & mintages
US Gold buffalos info & mintages
US gold commemoratives info & mintages
US gold First Spouses info & mintages
US Mint sales report (refresh page, updated Tuesdays)
When it's time to sell, these could be helpful
IRS Publication 17 (2013), Sale of Property (Be sure to confer with your tax adviser)
IRS Publication 544 (2012), Ordinary or Capital Gain or Loss (Be sure to confer with your tax adviser)
***NOTE: Certain locations are omitted from this list due to the feedback of poor customer service, not delivering and overall poor transactions. If it's not on this list, feel free to ask the forum for opinions.***
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You might add goldshark.com where prices can be compared.
Also, here's a good chart for gold coin specifications.Government is the great fiction through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else. - Bastiat
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<< <i>You might add goldshark.com where prices can be compared.
Also, here's a good chart for gold coin specifications. >>
Excellent, thank you, exactly what I was looking for.
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You have done your homework, Ray!

Thanks for sharing.
I would move up to the Bullion dealers section the Silver Bullet and Northwest Territorial which are not Govt Mint.
You can add the Perth Mint and the Royal Mint (UK).
I would also change the title adding "Master list" so that we can keep the thread as reference as the one in the US Coin forum.
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Really it depends where you're located. A good local B&M where you can pay cash and walk out the door is always the best and most stress-free purchase for me."Men who had never shown any ability to make or increase fortunes for themselves abounded in brilliant plans for creating and increasing wealth for the country at large." Fiat Money Inflation in France, Andrew Dickson White (1912)0
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<< <i>Really it depends where you're located. A good local B&M where you can pay cash and walk out the door is always the best and most stress-free purchase for me. >>
I agree but I don't have many I can visit and the ones close to me basically don't carry any gold.
In general the local B&M doesn't have the variety of an online dealer, though the shipping charges make a big difference when buying bullion.The member formerly known as Ciccio / Posts: 1453 / Joined: Apr 20090 -
<< <i>When you can't find what you are looking for at your local B&M, here is a list to help you find what you are looking for. Additions/comments are welcomed. These are not in any particular order.
PCGS Precious Metals Forum
Precious Metals / Bullion Dealers
APMEX
Bullion Direct
DBS Coins
Gainesville Coins
Gaithersburg Coin
Golden Eagle Coin
Goldmart
Gold Dealer
MCM or moderncoinmart
Monarch Precious Metals
Northwest Territorial Mint
Only Gold
Provident Metals
Scottsdale Precious Metals
Silver Bullet Silver Shield
SilverTowne L.P.
The Royal Mint
Tulving
Mint's
Perth Mint
Pobjoy Mint
Royal Canadian Mint
Untied States Mint
Lists / Misc
List of World Mints (Information and Links)
Mints of the world (Information and Links)
Gold Shark (Price Comparison)
Gold Bullion Coins Specifications >>
No mention of Panda America?theknowitalltroll;0 -
All updated, thanks for the info folks.0
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Don't forget Coinflation (http://www.coinflation.com/)The member formerly known as Ciccio / Posts: 1453 / Joined: Apr 20090
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So what is the best gold to buy? AGEs? 1 ounce bars? Saints [certified or raw]? I would think that the most amount of .999 pure gold for the least money would be the way to go. Are the one ounce bars really that hard to sell?theknowitalltroll;0
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<< <i>Really it depends where you're located. A good local B&M where you can pay cash and walk out the door is always the best and most stress-free purchase for me. >>
This. I assume it works equally well in reverse? Ideally, you would like to buy from the same place/person that he did.theknowitalltroll;0 -
<< <i>So what is the best gold to buy? AGEs? 1 ounce bars? Saints [certified or raw]? I would think that the most amount of .999 pure gold for the least money would be the way to go. Are the one ounce bars really that hard to sell? >>
There are so many variables to this question it's hard to answer without knowing exactly what you are buying for.
When buying gold some of the questions you need to ask yourself are:
1. Am I looking for the best price?
2. Am I looking for the easiest to sell (Eventually it will all be sold, if not by you, then by your estate).
3. What do I particularly like?
For example, recently I made a silver purchase. I am interested in ASEs as I understand they are very easy to sell and these are what I like. When doing some research, I found the Canadian Silver Maple Leafs cheaper and they are also easy to sell when the time comes. I ended up buying the Canadian Silver Maple Leafs.
Another example, for Christmas I intend to give my parents an odd size silver product (a 4oz or 5oz). I will pay a premium but this is what I want for the occasion.
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<< <i>So what is the best gold to buy? AGEs? 1 ounce bars? Saints [certified or raw]? I would think that the most amount of .999 pure gold for the least money would be the way to go. Are the one ounce bars really that hard to sell? >>
Once you decide what you want, check your local B&M, then check the list above to see what the best price is. Or, you could use the above links to surf the dealers to see what's out there (This is why I started this thread because that's what I was doing).
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<< <i>So what is the best gold to buy? AGEs? 1 ounce bars? Saints [certified or raw]? I would think that the most amount of .999 pure gold for the least money would be the way to go. Are the one ounce bars really that hard to sell? >>
There are so many variables to this question it's hard to answer without knowing exactly what you are buying for.
When buying gold some of the questions you need to ask yourself are:
1. Am I looking for the best price?
2. Am I looking for the easiest to sell (Eventually it will all be sold, if not by you, then by your estate).
3. What do I particularly like?
For example, recently I made a silver purchase. I am interested in ASEs as I understand they are very easy to sell and these are what I like. When doing some research, I found the Canadian Silver Maple Leafs cheaper and they are also easy to sell when the time comes. I ended up buying the Canadian Silver Maple Leafs.
Another example, for Christmas I intend to give my parents an odd size silver product (a 4oz or 5oz). I will pay a premium but this is what I want for the occasion. >>
Biggest concerns are best price AND authenticity.
From APMEX tonite: spot at $1546
1 ounce pamp suisse bar $1590
1 ounce APMEX bar $1590
1 ounce AGE $1624
NGC ms61 Saint $1716 $1774 on 1 ounce basis
PCGS ms61 Saint $1726 $1784
So what is there about a common date junky looking Saint that justifies a $228 premium over spot? Or a $194 premium over a one ounce bar? I guess one can feel comfy knowing the certified Saints aren't fake.theknowitalltroll;0 -
<< <i>Biggest concerns are best price AND authenticity.
From APMEX tonite: spot at $1546
1 ounce pamp suisse bar $1590
1 ounce APMEX bar $1590
1 ounce AGE $1624
NGC ms61 Saint $1716 $1774 on 1 ounce basis
PCGS ms61 Saint $1726 $1784
So what is there about a common date junky looking Saint that justifies a $228 premium over spot? Or a $194 premium over a one ounce bar? I guess one can feel comfy knowing the certified Saints aren't fake. >>
I'm really new to the field (Thus all the posts on the PM forums...lol), I would say the ST G. are higher for a few reasons.
1. They are actual coins (Not bullion) and 80 to 106 years old.
2. Something old that people know/have known for years.
3. Slabbed in good companies (Easy to resell)
4. Authentic (Slabbed)
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True, but for 7 Saints you could buy 8 bars, that's like a free ounce. The problem with gold is that it costs so much for an ounce that most folks can't afford enough ounces to make any serious money on gold; esp. if you feel sympathy for the taxman. Why is a raw 1 ounce AGE any less risky [fakewise] than say a Perth mint sealed package 1 ounce bar?theknowitalltroll;0
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<< <i>True, but for 7 Saints you could buy 8 bars, that's like a free ounce. The problem with gold is that it costs so much for an ounce that most folks can't afford enough ounces to make any serious money on gold; esp. if you feel sympathy for the taxman. Why is a raw 1 ounce AGE any less risky [fakewise] than say a Perth mint sealed package 1 ounce bar? >>
Not sure, I would assume that it is harder to fix a round coin rather than a square one with the flat side.0 -
A good local B&M where you can pay cash and walk out the door is always the best and most stress-free purchase for me.
Ideally, this or a lcs.
Don't forget Coinflation (http://www.coinflation.com/)
I use coininfo.com instead. I've found it's closer to what actual values are (what people will actually pay) than coinflation.
Coinflation will tell you what it's worth based on it's weight and what Spot is at that moment.
Coininfo will tell you what people are actually paying. Just because it weighs out at a given weight and then gives you a value based on current Spot price doesn't mean people are going to pay that value.
It's my bible when it comes to 90% transactions.To forgive is to free a prisoner, and to discover that prisoner was you.0 -
Great post Ray.... thanks for the list...Cheers, RickO0
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AboutAg is a great resource for silver bars.
Silvercollection.it is interesting for silver objects and hallmarks.The member formerly known as Ciccio / Posts: 1453 / Joined: Apr 20090 -
Not my post, but thanks for the info.
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Thank You!
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<< <i>Thank You! >>
The least I could do, I'll expand/maintain it as much as you all would like. Just provide suggestions and I'll adapt it.
Just happy to be able to give back to the group for all the knowledge and kindness that I have received over these past.... well, 15 years or so
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I've dealt with 8 of the dealers on your list (not including Mints), and the only one I would NOT recommend is NW Territorial Mint. I realize that they are relatively big, but I did not appreciate the way that they drug their feet and then misrepresented what was going on to me on a significant quantity of 1/10th oz and 1/2 oz AGEs that I bought from them awhile back. It became uncomfortable. I will never buy from them again. And then when Ross Hansen finally offered to make it up to me, he then proceeded NOT to do what he said he would do.
Do what you want. I'm just sayin.Q: Are You Printing Money? Bernanke: Not Literally
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<< <i>I've dealt with 8 of the dealers on your list (not including Mints), and the only one I would NOT recommend is NW Territorial Mint. I realize that they are relatively big, but I did not appreciate the way that they drug their feet and then misrepresented what was going on to me on a significant quantity of 1/10th oz and 1/2 oz AGEs that I bought from them awhile back. It became uncomfortable. I will never buy from them again. And then when Ross Hansen finally offered to make it up to me, he then proceeded NOT to do what he said he would do.
Do what you want. I'm just sayin. >>
Sharing your experience is appreciated, I understand this is only one person and one transaction that happened but all the same, your experience will help the rest of us be on our toes when dealing with this place or any other that are identified with our posts.
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Thought I'd bump this to the first page because I am sure others are bargain shopping today as well.
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tttI was ‘COINB0Y' with 4812 posts and ‘Expert Collector’ ranking (Joined in 2006).0
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Added a cool link that has the current value of gold in gram sizes.
NOTE: This thread and the master coin thread are linked in my signature bar below for your convenience.0 -
Bump.0
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And... when you decide to sell, these may be of use to some.
http://www.irs.gov/publications/p17/ch14.html
http://www.irs.gov/publications/p544/ch02.html
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bump from page 5
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I noticed that Scotsman Coins in St. Louis isn't on the list. They are a B&M who also have a precious metals division and a coin auction house. I've dealt with them and they are worth considering.Q: Are You Printing Money? Bernanke: Not Literally
I knew it would happen.0 -
Agora Commodities
and
Amagi Metals
Both are Bullion Dealers that accept multiple methods of payment, including BitcoinIt's all about what the people want...
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Run from Tulving
Check out tulving complaints
He takes an order and then won't deliver, I got by having to sell to him without ever receiving the product
Should be charged with fraudBill
Coin Junkie
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Mr. Paseo,
How bouts removing Tulving from the master list due to their recent problems
and add BGASC now that we have a good report on them and we have a member of their staff now with the forum.Government is the great fiction through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else. - Bastiat
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Thanks for the updates guys. Requested changes have been made.0
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If you have had a good experience with a particular company and have posted in the forums about it I can put a link to the thread if you let me know which one.
This way if we are looking into a company, there will be links next to their name so we can research some feedback from our own.
Let me know,
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Would appreciate your making the following correction..........
1. The underlying link to Amagi Metals goes to BGASC.com and not to Amagi Metals.
2. Our name is BGASC and not Buy Gold and Silver Coins (though that is what the acronym stands for). AND the underlying link here is going to Amagi Metals instead of www.bgasc.com
Thank you for including us in the list.
Much appreciated.
Sku
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Sorry for the delay SKU, corrections made.0
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I don't see JM Bullion on the list. Excellent prices and service and FREE shippinv
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<< <i>I don't see JM Bullion on the list. Excellent prices and service and FREE shipping
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