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CaptHenway
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Professional Numismatist, Retired. 55 year member ANA. Former ANA Senior Authenticator. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and ANA Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Winner of the PNG's 2026 Robert Friedberg Award for "The Enigmatic Lincoln Cents of 1922," Available now from Whitman or Amazon.
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  • derryb
    derryb Posts: 38,605 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    with all the banking scandals (LIBOR, FOREX, money laundering) maybe it's time to tie up some loose ends before the truth on gold gets out. image

    Government is the great fiction through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else. - Bastiat

  • LowBudget
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    they are still talking about Kennedy and Oswald in the comment section image
    "I'm dropping my standards so that I can buy more"
  • RedneckHB
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    Lets see how many conspiracies we can try to create....

    List_of_suicides
    Excuses are tools of the ignorant

    Knowledge is the enemy of fear

  • derryb
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    << <i>Lets see how many conspiracies we can try to create....

    List_of_suicides >>


    unreliable, they left out Jimi Hendrix. image

    Government is the great fiction through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else. - Bastiat

  • ricko
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    The uninformed mind sees shadows and conspiracies where the light of fact is absent. Cheers, RickO
  • OldEastside
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    hey, I'm convinced that Justin Bieber and Miley Cyrus are the same image

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  • bronco2078
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    << <i>

    << <i>Lets see how many conspiracies we can try to create....

    List_of_suicides >>


    unreliable, they left out Jimi Hendrix. image >>



    For coverage of Jimi Hendrix you want the Laurel Canyon Death List , I'd link to it but I don't want to be responsible for blowing your mind image
  • Baley
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    I think conspiracy theories are intentional to keep folks busy discussing abstractions that have no direct connection to their actual lives. By wringing our hands and spending our precious hours worrying about these huge, distant issues, we're playing right into their hands to control our thoughts in the direction they want us to... remote TRILLS and the beleagured 150-million person "middle class", and assassinations/suicides of him or her, omg my shoulders ain't big enough to carry the load of the world's cares woes and worries.

    should I shrug it off and spend my energy with the 3 people closest to me, and then the next dozen or so, and then the next hundred, and quit worrying about the larger them?

    Liberty: Parent of Science & Industry

  • morgansforever
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    One at least from the article was suicide, the other two were apparent. You don't commit suicide when your happy n fuzzy.
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  • derryb
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    Government is the great fiction through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else. - Bastiat

  • morgansforever
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    Makes you wonder what else they corner oil, oats, wheat, aluminum?

    JPM CORNERING GOLD
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  • RedneckHB
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    << <i>Makes you wonder what else they corner oil, oats, wheat, aluminum?

    JPM CORNERING GOLD >>




    We've been hearing this "news" for years now. Where has it gotten us?
    Excuses are tools of the ignorant

    Knowledge is the enemy of fear

  • derryb
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    << <i>

    << <i>Makes you wonder what else they corner oil, oats, wheat, aluminum?

    JPM CORNERING GOLD >>




    We've been hearing this "news" for years now. Where has it gotten us? >>


    lower prices?

    Government is the great fiction through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else. - Bastiat

  • RedneckHB
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    Then Viva la JPM!!!

    Dont we all like sales?


    Excuses are tools of the ignorant

    Knowledge is the enemy of fear

  • derryb
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    << <i>Then Viva la JPM!!!

    Dont we all like sales? >>


    unfortunately their massive position with gold is not in place to drive profit. Or just maybe, it is. image

    Government is the great fiction through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else. - Bastiat

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    there's so much money 5 floors down at 1 Chase Plaza I'll skip the gold and just take the cash at this point. image
    "I'm dropping my standards so that I can buy more"
  • WhiteTornado
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    That original linked story has another story in a banner near the top. Is that guy Consumer Financial Protection Bureau Director Richard Cordray or is he actually NHL analyst Mike Milbury??

    imageimage
  • RedneckHB
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    << <i>

    << <i>Then Viva la JPM!!!

    Dont we all like sales? >>


    unfortunately their massive position with gold is not in place to drive profit. Or just maybe, it is. image >>



    Profit for whom? JPM has massive positions in many things.
    Excuses are tools of the ignorant

    Knowledge is the enemy of fear

  • bronco2078
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    << <i>That original linked story has another story in a banner near the top. Is that guy Consumer Financial Protection Bureau Director Richard Cordray or is he actually NHL analyst Mike Milbury??

    imageimage >>




    They should put Milbury in charge , if anyone gets out of line he will rip their shoe off and beat them with it image
  • derryb
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    << <i>there's so much money 5 floors down at 1 Chase Plaza I'll skip the gold and just take the cash at this point. image >>


    Now owned by the Chinese, including it's world's largest vault

    Government is the great fiction through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else. - Bastiat

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    << <i>

    << <i>there's so much money 5 floors down at 1 Chase Plaza I'll skip the gold and just take the cash at this point. image >>


    Now owned by the Chinese, including it's world's largest vault >>

    I worked down there for about 18 months... want the layout? image
    "I'm dropping my standards so that I can buy more"
  • bronco2078
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  • derryb
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    << <i>number 4 suicide by nail gun >>


    Number 4 also under investigation.

    Government is the great fiction through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else. - Bastiat

  • bronco2078
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    I have a hard time believing someone could deliberately shoot themselves 7 or 8 times on purpose with a framing gun. Not that it isn't possible but the first few times would be pretty discouraging and I think you would stop.

  • OPA
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    << <i>I have a hard time believing someone could deliberately shoot themselves 7 or 8 times on purpose with a framing gun. Not that it isn't possible but the first few times would be pretty discouraging and I think you would stop. >>



    Is that like committing suicide by hanging with your hands tied behind your back?image

    "Bongo drive 1984 Lincoln that looks like old coin dug from ground."
  • derryb
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    Is JPM's Jamie Dimon under investigation these days?

    Government is the great fiction through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else. - Bastiat

  • bronco2078
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  • drwstr123
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    Worse case of suicide I ever saw. The 7th and 8th nails must have been a chore.
  • derryb
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    Jim Willie weighs in:

    "WE ARE NOT SEEING BAD BANKERS REMOVED. WE ARE SEEING BANKERS REMOVED WHO ARE ON THE VERGE OF REVEALING BIG DATA DETAILS."

    Government is the great fiction through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else. - Bastiat

  • Kip
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    Oooopps
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  • derryb
    derryb Posts: 38,605 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Government is the great fiction through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else. - Bastiat

  • RedneckHB
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    My buddy works for JPM. Should I tell him stay on the first floor and away from construction areas?
    Excuses are tools of the ignorant

    Knowledge is the enemy of fear

  • derryb
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    << <i>My buddy works for JPM. Should I tell him stay on the first floor and away from construction areas? >>


    Only if he's talking to federal regulators. If so tell him to immediately get into the banker protection program.

    Government is the great fiction through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else. - Bastiat

  • LowBudget
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    << <i>RIP - Another JPM banking executive dies >>

    ME says waiting on a toxicology report to determine cause of death ...so much for long illness
    "I'm dropping my standards so that I can buy more"
  • bronco2078
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  • derryb
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    << <i>Connecting some dotsimage >>



    Jim Willie makes the same claim. Has to be internet BS. image

    Government is the great fiction through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else. - Bastiat

  • RedneckHB
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    If Willie writes it, then it must be true.image
    Excuses are tools of the ignorant

    Knowledge is the enemy of fear

  • OPA
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    << <i>If Willie writes it, then it must be true.image >>



    I'd add Heller and J.S. to that listimage
    "Bongo drive 1984 Lincoln that looks like old coin dug from ground."
  • percyb
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    Never mind.
    "Poets are the unacknowledged legislators of the world." PBShelley
  • drwstr123
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    JPMorgan employee jumps 30 stories to his death in Hong Kong

    LINKY
  • LowBudget
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    << <i>JPMorgan employee jumps 30 stories to his death in Hong Kong

    LINKY >>

    as they say, "it wasn't the fall the killed him, it was the sudden stop"
    "I'm dropping my standards so that I can buy more"
  • RedneckHB
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    Number of suicides in US per year--37,000. Population of US-- 330,000,000. Rate 0.01%
    Number of JPM suicides--3. Number of JPM employees--260,000. Rate 0.001%

    Excuses are tools of the ignorant

    Knowledge is the enemy of fear

  • MGLICKER
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    << <i>Number of suicides in US per year--37,000. Population of US-- 330,000,000. Rate 0.01%
    Number of JPM suicides--3. Number of JPM employees--260,000. Rate 0.001% >>



    Looks like at JPM, numbers are falling.
  • derryb
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    << <i>

    << <i>Number of suicides in US per year--37,000. Population of US-- 330,000,000. Rate 0.01%
    Number of JPM suicides--3. Number of JPM employees--260,000. Rate 0.001% >>



    Looks like at JPM, numbers are falling. >>


    As well as bankers. Note that that is not JPM's annual suicide rate, more like its monthly rate.

    Government is the great fiction through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else. - Bastiat

  • RedneckHB
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    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>Number of suicides in US per year--37,000. Population of US-- 330,000,000. Rate 0.01%
    Number of JPM suicides--3. Number of JPM employees--260,000. Rate 0.001% >>



    Looks like at JPM, numbers are falling. >>


    As well as bankers. Note that that is not JPM's annual suicide rate, more like its monthly rate. >>




    Even at a 3/month rate would only be in line with the US average.

    Excuses are tools of the ignorant

    Knowledge is the enemy of fear

  • derryb
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    "These dead bankers are starting to pile up."

    "In the final analysis, there is really not that much difference between how mobsters operate and how Wall Street operates.

    ... one thing is for certain - dead bankers don't talk."

    Government is the great fiction through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else. - Bastiat

  • MGLICKER
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    Speaking of JPM. Interesting allegations regarding Bernie Madoff.



    Hot off the press.
  • RedneckHB
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    Lets add to the list the number of volcanoes that have recently erupted.. And I think a 1000 ft long asteroid was within a million miles of Earth. And Polar Vortexes.. Oh MY!!

    -According to the Bangkok Post, people are "stampeding to yank their deposits out of banks" in Thailand right now.

    -Venezuela is coming apart at the seams. Just check out the photos in this article.

    -The unemployment rate in South Africa is above 24 percent.

    -Ukraine is on the verge of total collapse..



    China is starting to quietly sell off U.S. debt. Already, Chinese U.S. Treasury holdings are down to their lowest level in almost a year.----From the very same article holdings are at within a hair of all-time highs.

    -George Soros has doubled his bet that the S&P 500 is going to crash. His total bet is now up to about $1,300,000,000.----Funny cuz he had a similar sized position last summer. He covered it all within a few months.


    But of course, these "facts" most definately mean its a bad time to be a banker. image
    Excuses are tools of the ignorant

    Knowledge is the enemy of fear

  • drwstr123
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    << <i>But of course, these "facts" most definately mean its a bad time to be a banker. image >>



    I consider significant that these several bankers comprised a group of suicidal millionaires.
  • RedneckHB
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    Just spoke to my buddy and his thought is that they could not handle another 3 years of inept leadership.
    Excuses are tools of the ignorant

    Knowledge is the enemy of fear